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Thread started 04/05/06 9:39pm

psychodelicide

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Did Anybody Else Like that 90's Group "Arrested Development"?

Remember them? They had a couple of hits: "Mr. Wendel" and "Tennessee", to name a few. I used to really like their music a lot, it always was catchy and had a message that was worth listening to. I imagine that the leader of the group, Speech, was not too pleased when he heard that there was a new TV show that had the same name as the musical group that he was a large part of.
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Reply #1 posted 04/05/06 9:54pm

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I wasn't a huge fan of the group or the album, but I did like "Natural" and "Tennessee."
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #2 posted 04/05/06 10:11pm

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Lammastide said:

I wasn't a huge fan of the group or the album, but I did like "Natural" and "Tennessee."
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hug Hey, Lammastide. smile I forgot all about "Natural".
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Reply #3 posted 04/05/06 11:32pm

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Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify
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Reply #4 posted 04/06/06 12:10am

twink69

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"Everyday people" still goes off
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Reply #5 posted 04/06/06 8:38am

prettymansson

hell yeah...speech rocked..and the prince /Sly/funk influence was always in the house...I dug their 1st record A LOT !!!!
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Reply #6 posted 04/06/06 8:55am

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i'd still like to bitch slap speech for not crediting wendy and lisa's sample on "Children Play With Earth"..

its the entire damn song..

confused
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Reply #7 posted 04/06/06 11:19am

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sosgemini said:

i'd still like to bitch slap speech for not crediting wendy and lisa's sample on "Children Play With Earth"..

its the entire damn song..

confused


It was typical of most rap acts during that time not to credit artists.

Hell, now it's very possible Ready to D.I.E. can't be sold at all for refusing to credit and compensate the original artists!

http://www.chartattack.co...3/2006.cfm
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Reply #8 posted 04/06/06 11:33am

sosgemini

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namepeace said:

sosgemini said:

i'd still like to bitch slap speech for not crediting wendy and lisa's sample on "Children Play With Earth"..

its the entire damn song..

confused


It was typical of most rap acts during that time not to credit artists.

Hell, now it's very possible Ready to D.I.E. can't be sold at all for refusing to credit and compensate the original artists!

http://www.chartattack.co...3/2006.cfm



damn..if wendy and lisa werent so darn polite they could make a killing..

lol
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Reply #9 posted 04/06/06 11:41am

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namepeace said:

sosgemini said:

i'd still like to bitch slap speech for not crediting wendy and lisa's sample on "Children Play With Earth"..

its the entire damn song..

confused


It was typical of most rap acts during that time not to credit artists.

Hell, now it's very possible Ready to D.I.E. can't be sold at all for refusing to credit and compensate the original artists!

http://www.chartattack.co...3/2006.cfm


That's right. I've read that the Beastie's 'Paul's Boutique' album would be impossible to record today. All the samples with all those people having to be paid--the budget would be out of this world.

clarification edit
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Reply #10 posted 04/06/06 11:45am

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That's right. I've read that the Beastie's 'Paul's Boutique' album would be impossible to record today. All the samples with all those people having to be paid--the budget would be out of this world.

clarification edit
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Indeed.

Ironically, or perhaps appropriately, the practice was curbed due to two musicians among the most revered by hip-hop: George Clinton and James Brown. They took legal action in the early 90's that made a lot of people take notice.

But now, only the acts with the biggest budgets can use prominent samples.

Of course, there are several producers and artists -- the late J Dilla, Madlib, and MF Doom come to mind -- that rely heavily on obscure samples from old R&B songs and even animated shows.
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Reply #11 posted 04/06/06 11:59am

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namepeace said:


Indeed.

Ironically, or perhaps appropriately, the practice was curbed due to two musicians among the most revered by hip-hop: George Clinton and James Brown. They took legal action in the early 90's that made a lot of people take notice.

But now, only the acts with the biggest budgets can use prominent samples.

Of course, there are several producers and artists -- the late J Dilla, Madlib, and MF Doom come to mind -- that rely heavily on obscure samples from old R&B songs and even animated shows.


Remember when Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz sampled Steely Dan on their big hit "Deja Vu"? I saw an interview with them afterwards where they said that the band asked for so much money for using that sample that it really soured them on Steely Dan and they subsequently threw out all their Steely Dan records.
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Reply #12 posted 04/06/06 12:09pm

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yup.

I got Speech's solo jawn too. It's i-ight...
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Reply #13 posted 04/06/06 1:53pm

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I have Speech 'first solo album and it's very good, I don't know why his solo career wasn't succesful, there was a terrific track very Prince like, I think that' it's "Feel Real" or something like this.. I've got to find this in my mess.
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Reply #14 posted 04/06/06 1:56pm

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I loved the second studio album Zingalamaduni the most. And for whatever the reasons thats the one that didn't blow up.
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Reply #15 posted 04/06/06 2:00pm

namepeace

sextonseven said:

Remember when Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz sampled Steely Dan on their big hit "Deja Vu"? I saw an interview with them afterwards where they said that the band asked for so much money for using that sample that it really soured them on Steely Dan and they subsequently threw out all their Steely Dan records.


Yeah. . . that was unfortunate for T and G.

BUT, since they're not exactly Talib and Mos on the mic, can they REALLY say that it would have been a hit without the Steely Dan hook? I personally doubt it, and I think they should STILL be grateful Steely Dan put them on.

But reasonable minds can disagree.
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Reply #16 posted 04/06/06 2:03pm

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sosgemini said:

i'd still like to bitch slap speech for not crediting wendy and lisa's sample on "Children Play With Earth"..

its the entire damn song..

confused



they had a lot of live instrumentation as well. playing live instruments along with the samples on some cuts.
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Reply #17 posted 04/06/06 2:30pm

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Meloh9 said:

sosgemini said:

i'd still like to bitch slap speech for not crediting wendy and lisa's sample on "Children Play With Earth"..

its the entire damn song..

confused



they had a lot of live instrumentation as well. playing live instruments along with the samples on some cuts.


not on that songs..thats carla azar's drums and eric leed's sax. the entire song is a loop of it all.
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Reply #18 posted 04/06/06 2:34pm

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sosgemini said:

Meloh9 said:




they had a lot of live instrumentation as well. playing live instruments along with the samples on some cuts.


not on that songs..thats carla azar's drums and eric leed's sax. the entire song is a loop of it all.



I know what you are saying, I just wanted to point that out about them.
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Reply #19 posted 04/06/06 2:49pm

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Meloh9 said:

sosgemini said:



not on that songs..thats carla azar's drums and eric leed's sax. the entire song is a loop of it all.



I know what you are saying, I just wanted to point that out about them.



thats the wierd thing..they give made credit on all the tunes but that one...

lol


and thats the one song that doesnt have a mix of live and samples..
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Reply #20 posted 04/06/06 2:55pm

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This turned into a thread about sampling! smile

Well my favorite from Arrested Development was...

"Tennessee"

'D*A*N*C*E ... 4 the light' - Alphabet St. promo video (1988)

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Reply #21 posted 04/06/06 2:57pm

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CinisterCee said:

This turned into a thread about sampling! smile

Well my favorite from Arrested Development was...

"Tennessee"

'D*A*N*C*E ... 4 the light' - Alphabet St. promo video (1988)

© Warner Bros



are you saying that Tennessee samples Alphabet St?

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Reply #22 posted 04/06/06 2:57pm

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CinisterCee said:

This turned into a thread about sampling! smile

Well my favorite from Arrested Development was...

"Tennessee"

'D*A*N*C*E ... 4 the light' - Alphabet St. promo video (1988)

© Warner Bros




yeah they had to pay P millions for that

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Reply #23 posted 04/06/06 3:02pm

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eek

you telling me the word "tennesse" is from Alphabet St? just sped up and slowed down?


wow....
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Reply #24 posted 04/06/06 3:09pm

CinisterCee

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eek

you telling me the word "tennesse" is from Alphabet St? just sped up and slowed down?


wow....


hehe you didn't hear it before? smile
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Reply #25 posted 04/06/06 3:12pm

littlejim

'u' is a great track.so too is 'mama's always on stage.'
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Reply #26 posted 04/06/06 3:13pm

CinisterCee

?uestlove's Sample Lesson mix for Radio 1.
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Reply #27 posted 04/06/06 3:14pm

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littlejim said:

'u' is a great track.so too is 'mama's always on stage.'



Praisin' U is a great track also
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Reply #28 posted 04/07/06 2:19am

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great group! if you check their site they have a new album out - i got it and it sounds like they picked up right where they left off back then! favorite song so far from the new album: Luxury.
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Reply #29 posted 04/07/06 7:42am

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I really dug them a lot but never did get their second album....always wanted too.
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