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Reply #30 posted 04/04/06 8:23pm

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papaa said:

SADLY I AGREE

superspaceboy said:

Prince can pull an album out of his ass..


It was from that orifice he pulled 3121. sad


Yeha and even THAT doesn't sound half bad lol But see, I look at it like this...

After Katrina Prince and MJ were on board for charity singles.

Prince's came out oh within 72 hours. Not the greatest, but he still did it. With hardly any fanfare.

We all know how MJ's turned out. Is it even done yet? And more importanly has anyone even heard it yet?

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Reply #31 posted 04/04/06 8:41pm

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CHARITY SINGLE?

Huh? Has MJ finished recording Invincible already?
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Reply #32 posted 04/04/06 8:43pm

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papaa said:

SADLY I AGREE

superspaceboy said:

Prince can pull an album out of his ass..


It was from that orifice he pulled 3121. sad


falloff c'mon it's pretty good.
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Reply #33 posted 04/04/06 10:02pm

FunkyBrotha

i think he looked ok in this picture, again, if he quit the red lippy and updated his glasses to something post-70s he'd b alright. Thats not a wig i think that his natural hair with some hair implants, i just think he needs to update his cut also. Get it short again like the You are not alone vid
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Reply #34 posted 04/04/06 10:40pm

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FunkyBrotha said:

i think he looked ok in this picture, again, if he quit the red lippy and updated his glasses to something post-70s he'd b alright. Thats not a wig i think that his natural hair with some hair implants, i just think he needs to update his cut also. Get it short again like the You are not alone vid


Like Prince before him...It's a wig.

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Reply #35 posted 04/05/06 12:36am

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Growing as an artist? yeah, below his waist!
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Reply #36 posted 04/05/06 1:18am

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Uhm, I don't know if I would call that looking 'good'... *sigh* I used to fancy him so bad when I was a kid... just glad he didn't look this way back then.

I pray for a new album. It's worth it just to hear his voice. Do something awesome, Michael - music's the one area you can't be judged. Ah go on


Of course he can! I would not be as skeptical as I am if the following were not true..

His output since Thriller is paltry at best. Meaning 5ish albums in over 2 decades? He's not that prolific...not like a "genius" or true artis would be.

He doesn't produce his albums and has shown NO real musicianship in his career. He performs and Dances.

His albums started sounding the same esp after Bad. It all sounds trying and dated.

He has deep deep personal issues that get in the way of the music...and has had them throughout most of his career and the music is worn from it.

These last two take or leave...but the first two are my main reasons to think a wildly likeable album from him is probably not in the foreseeable future. I don't like dissing Mike and I am not trying to. But you guys are kidding yourselves with this "Greatness is brewing in him for a new album that's just gonna blow you away!"

The proof is in the pudding.

(Not to do the inevitable comparison...but here goes...and it's just to illustrate what I am saying...)Prince can pull an album out of his ass...MJ cannot. If he were a great, musician, producer or even was a tad more prolific (preferably crossing multiple genres instead of the one he seems stuck on), I'd say otherwise. Really, I would. SUre another album will come out eventually. And I am sure a song or two will be enjoyable. But it's just to keep him in the business and he'll hope it'll come across as ground breaking and original and WOWOWOWOW...but I seriously doubt it.


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UGH here we go again with this ... Love ya man, but same for tons of artists, Mike has been in the game making / per4ming music since 1968? U think u can teach him anything that he dont already know?
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Reply #37 posted 04/05/06 3:16am

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UGH here we go again with this ... Love ya man, but same for tons of artists, Mike has been in the game making / per4ming music since 1968? U think u can teach him anything that he dont already know?




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Reply #38 posted 04/05/06 9:32am

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newpowergeneration said:

Uhm, I don't know if I would call that looking 'good'... *sigh* I used to fancy him so bad when I was a kid... just glad he didn't look this way back then.

I pray for a new album. It's worth it just to hear his voice. Do something awesome, Michael - music's the one area you can't be judged. Ah go on


Of course he can! I would not be as skeptical as I am if the following were not true..

His output since Thriller is paltry at best. Meaning 5ish albums in over 2 decades? He's not that prolific...not like a "genius" or true artis would be.

He doesn't produce his albums and has shown NO real musicianship in his career. He performs and Dances.

His albums started sounding the same esp after Bad. It all sounds trying and dated.

He has deep deep personal issues that get in the way of the music...and has had them throughout most of his career and the music is worn from it.

These last two take or leave...but the first two are my main reasons to think a wildly likeable album from him is probably not in the foreseeable future. I don't like dissing Mike and I am not trying to. But you guys are kidding yourselves with this "Greatness is brewing in him for a new album that's just gonna blow you away!"

The proof is in the pudding.

(Not to do the inevitable comparison...but here goes...and it's just to illustrate what I am saying...)Prince can pull an album out of his ass...MJ cannot. If he were a great, musician, producer or even was a tad more prolific (preferably crossing multiple genres instead of the one he seems stuck on), I'd say otherwise. Really, I would. SUre another album will come out eventually. And I am sure a song or two will be enjoyable. But it's just to keep him in the business and he'll hope it'll come across as ground breaking and original and WOWOWOWOW...but I seriously doubt it.


I personally don't hold up much for the furture when it comes to MJ and I personally don't care so much for his albums since Thriller. I believe he has issues that need sorting out, but doesn't mean I will reduce his legacy to someone who just "sings and dances." This is someone who is very unique, who has written some of the most memorable songs ever, who was in his hey day a brilliant singer and dancer and has been around since he was 10...That alone makes him original and unique.

You have peeps like Madonna whose main talent is reinventing her image and Elvis whose talent was being able to sound "black", he rarely wrote his own songs, and yet we have people looking at them has the "second coming".

If MJ wasn't so hung up in trying to be all things to all people, spending 5 yrs between albums and worrying about record sales he would have been probably been a whole lot more profilic in later years, but inspite of all this he has managed to influence a generation of artists. Believe it or not even Prince was influence by the Jackson 5 and so was Madonna.

For Thriller, OTW and the Jackson 5 alone I think he deserves more than being reduce to just a "song and dance" man...
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Reply #39 posted 04/05/06 12:04pm

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But you seem to be dismissing the possibility that, if the planets aligned and everything came right, Michael could still make an awesome album. It's not a high chance of it happening, granted, but I don't think you ever lose something for good.
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Reply #40 posted 04/05/06 1:56pm

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If mariah carey can make a comeback, if prince can make a comeback, shit, if barry manilow can make a comeback so can michael jackson. And boy , u better believe this, michael jackson will make a comeback with a fantastic record, he's determined to focus on the music once again and believe it our not the world really wants this. He's been workin with some really interesting people post trial, real artists that can help him recapture his best sound. There will be no more rodney jerkins.
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Reply #41 posted 04/05/06 2:55pm

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FunkyBrotha said:

If mariah carey can make a comeback, if prince can make a comeback, shit, if barry manilow can make a comeback so can michael jackson. And boy , u better believe this, michael jackson will make a comeback with a fantastic record, he's determined to focus on the music once again and believe it our not the world really wants this. He's been workin with some really interesting people post trial, real artists that can help him recapture his best sound. There will be no more rodney jerkins.


Yeah, while Invincible had its moments, Rodney really produced some stinker/filler tracks, even with Michael trying his best, they weren't good enough for Michael. They would have been great tracks for like Justin or Usher, but not Michael Jackson. What is funny is if I remember right, Rodney REALLY wanted to work Michael, where as Michael didn't go and pick him out. He came to Michael asking and asking to let him produce his new stuff. Where as with Teddy Riley, Michael's best "producer" post Thriller, Michael picked out himself. Maybe this time around (no pun intended) things will be better! nod
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Reply #42 posted 04/05/06 3:07pm

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I'm not on the edge of my seat for a new MJ album. If it's good, great. If it's a bomb, oh well.

If it’s true that he’s working with the people that’s been mentioned it sounds like he’s still going for the popular producers of the moment. It’s like he’s not confident enough or willing to work with someone under the radar or do the whole thing himself.

After Invincible I’d say no more of that.
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Reply #43 posted 04/05/06 4:00pm

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He isnt using any hot producers so far? who are u referring 2? he's produced most of the stuff himself with help from a few known producers, but nobody who is hip to the sound of today. I doubt we will see another invincible type affair this time around, michael knows the reasons why people didnt like invincible and he will react accordingly this time around.

I wish people would stop sayin Quincy was the reason for Michaels success, he added very little to michaels work, its only that michael was far more in tune with his music back then, it was HIM that created those sounds. A producer producing michael jackson is simply not as good as michael jackson producing michael jackson and with invincible that fact was proven. Teddy Riley was the only producer who truly added to michael's music in a positive way.
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Reply #44 posted 04/05/06 5:05pm

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FunkyBrotha said:

Teddy Riley was the only producer who truly added to michael's music in a positive way.


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Reply #45 posted 04/11/06 7:27pm

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I'm just not impressed with Michael Jackson in any way. Sorry, but I don't think he's a musical genius and I don't think he's an incredible dancer. And he creeps me out. Big time. neutral
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Reply #46 posted 04/11/06 7:43pm

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Michael Jackson will never come back. Period. evillol
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Reply #47 posted 04/11/06 11:01pm

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I'm sure that MJ will make a comeback in the news with another spectacular stupidity or a lawsuit.
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Reply #48 posted 04/11/06 11:28pm

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jn2 said:

I'm sure that MJ will make a comeback in the news with another spectacular stupidity or a lawsuit.


You think Michael is stupid?
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Reply #49 posted 04/11/06 11:37pm

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When I see a picture of him and his kids with their face hidden I think that he has lost common sense.
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Reply #50 posted 04/11/06 11:52pm

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Sorry, but I don't think he's a musical genius and I don't think he's an incredible dancer


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Reply #51 posted 04/11/06 11:56pm

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Krytonite said:

jn2 said:

I'm sure that MJ will make a comeback in the news with another spectacular stupidity or a lawsuit.


You think Michael is stupid?

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Reply #52 posted 04/12/06 3:07am

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DarlingDiana said:

eek u wouldn't call that looking good? just to clarify, incase u were looking at the wrong person, the guy in the red jacket with the sunnies and the bling is Michael Jackson. MJ looks damn good, I'd hit that!
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Reply #53 posted 04/12/06 3:26am

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u2prnce said:

I'm just not impressed with Michael Jackson in any way. Sorry, but I don't think he's a musical genius and I don't think he's an incredible dancer. And he creeps me out. Big time. neutral



Co-sign. I've grown out of Michael; nowadays I can hardly look at a picture of him, let alone listen to an album or watch a video. I cringe every time I hear "Musical genius", and I would much rather watch someone like Prince play guitar than watch MJ do the same re-hashed dance moves ad. naseum.
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Reply #54 posted 04/12/06 10:33am

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DarlingDiana said:

eek u wouldn't call that looking good? just to clarify, incase u were looking at the wrong person, the guy in the red jacket with the sunnies and the bling is Michael Jackson. MJ looks damn good, I'd hit that!
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eek

with feeling eek

I would ask you if you are serious...but I know you are.

i agree. im actually a person who thinks michael is a very good looking person, that is when i see live video footage of him on tv and if i ever saw him in person id be all over him, he just has a sexy aura and vibe to me, but the camera absolutely hates him, he never takes a good picture, that one is terrible.
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Reply #55 posted 04/12/06 11:48am

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hellomoto said:

superspaceboy said:


eek

with feeling eek

I would ask you if you are serious...but I know you are.

i agree. im actually a person who thinks michael is a very good looking person, that is when i see live video footage of him on tv and if i ever saw him in person id be all over him, he just has a sexy aura and vibe to me, but the camera absolutely hates him, he never takes a good picture, that one is terrible.

you bet he does. You can feel. He looks much better in person than on photographs.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #56 posted 04/12/06 2:43pm

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Butterfilies or Break of Dawn, he seems to have problems singing such songs live, infact he seems to have problems singing most songs live.


How do you know? He has never sung Butterflies or Break of Dawn live, and as far as I know the last time he sang live was at the MSG concert in 2001. He wasn't bad then at all, and you could see that his lips were messed up and red, and looked sore.
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Reply #57 posted 04/12/06 3:45pm

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DarlingDiana said:

eek u wouldn't call that looking good? just to clarify, incase u were looking at the wrong person, the guy in the red jacket with the sunnies and the bling is Michael Jackson. MJ looks damn good, I'd hit that!
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eek eek eek disbelief
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Reply #58 posted 04/15/06 10:49pm

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lol lol lol lol lol
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