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Thread started 07/08/02 8:11pm

Urbanhang22

There's A Riot Goin' On--Where is The Respect for This Album???

I'm currently listening to Sly and The Family Stone's "There's A Riot Goin' On" and I must say I am disappointed by the sound quality of the CD and the complete omission of the original album cover and liner notes. I guess Sony music wants to bury the deep messages of this album behind poor sound and by selectively omitting the liner notes. Prince hit the nail on the head with that verse in "The Everlasting Now", sadly Sly will never get the credit he deserves. Michael Jackson should be slapped for buying Sly's publishing rights and not having the decency to force Sony to restore the album to its original glory.
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Reply #1 posted 07/08/02 8:21pm

djdredd

i totally agree w/you.
riot is one of my favorite albums of all time.
sly is a genious and really doesnt get the credit he deserves for being a great multi-instumentalist and song writer.

the cd quality is bad and mj should be shot for letting that happen.

i dont know if you own a turntable or not, but you can still find it on vinyl at some record stores/thrift stores. the sound quality on the vinyl is great.

i am a dj and i often play some of the cuts from the album out at my gigs.

good post!

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Reply #2 posted 07/08/02 8:28pm

Aerogram

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Urbanhang22 said:

I'm currently listening to Sly and The Family Stone's "There's A Riot Goin' On" and I must say I am disappointed by the sound quality of the CD and the complete omission of the original album cover and liner notes. I guess Sony music wants to bury the deep messages of this album behind poor sound and by selectively omitting the liner notes. Prince hit the nail on the head with that verse in "The Everlasting Now", sadly Sly will never get the credit he deserves. Michael Jackson should be slapped for buying Sly's publishing rights and not having the decency to force Sony to restore the album to its original glory.


There's a riot... I love it. Prince himself pointed out the similarities between Just like a baby and The question of U (bassline). I also always thought that Diamonds and Pearls's chorus is not unlike Family Affair's.
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Reply #3 posted 07/08/02 8:31pm

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Ditto on the cover... what a bore.
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Reply #4 posted 07/08/02 8:42pm

starboy126

I had them playing this at my workplace... very pot smokin influenced... I would say. Genius.
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Reply #5 posted 07/08/02 9:44pm

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After the hippy love of previous Sly albums,this was the sound of a junkie nodding off-paraphrased. Essential listening. The mud is what makes it work--Just like Exile On Main Streets sludge production, it's what makes it special.
[This message was edited Mon Jul 8 21:47:05 PDT 2002 by rdhull]
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #6 posted 07/09/02 1:10am

PFunkjazz

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Urbanhang22 said:

I'm currently listening to Sly and The Family Stone's "There's A Riot Goin' On" and I must say I am disappointed by the sound quality of the CD and the complete omission of the original album cover and liner notes. I guess Sony music wants to bury the deep messages of this album behind poor sound and by selectively omitting the liner notes. Prince hit the nail on the head with that verse in "The Everlasting Now", sadly Sly will never get the credit he deserves. Michael Jackson should be slapped for buying Sly's publishing rights and not having the decency to force Sony to restore the album to its original glory.



Those who truly know their funk know that RIOT is a true classic of the genre. It mos def gets its props and respect. You just ain't hanging 'round the right folks! fro

The orignal album cover is a great controversy. It feature a desecration of the US flag. A full-size replica with no lettering graphics and 16 pt stars in the field and the stripes are irregular and ragged-curvy. These LPs are very rare collector's items. I doubt you will every see this one reissued.

Another rarity is the orignal Dramatics WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET from '72, which featured a large disembodied black eye in a grim display of psychedelica...unheard of for a R&B vocal group!

I wanna know if any PRINCE fans any love for FISHBONE?
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Reply #7 posted 07/09/02 2:18am

Essence

The crazy thing is the three albums prior to "Stand" have been re-issued with bonus tracks.

For some perverse reason Sly's classic trio of "Stand", "Riot" and "Fresh" have been ignored.

Go figure... eek
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Reply #8 posted 07/09/02 2:28am

DavidEye

I'm still waiting for a Sly and The Family Stone box set:)
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Reply #9 posted 07/09/02 4:21am

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Yes Pfunkjazz, I did dig Fishbone...Ghetto soundwave, bonin'in the boneyard, Freddie's dead...too many to mention.
Right now, while writing this message, I'm listening to Me'Shell's anthropological mixtape...
Saturda, I'm going to see George Clinton here in paris...
Aren't they all a big freaking funking family ???
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Reply #10 posted 07/09/02 4:21am

sirnose

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saturda...???
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Reply #11 posted 07/09/02 9:54am

PFunkjazz

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sirnose said:

Yes Pfunkjazz, I did dig Fishbone...Ghetto soundwave, bonin'in the boneyard, Freddie's dead...too many to mention.
Right now, while writing this message, I'm listening to Me'Shell's anthropological mixtape...
Saturda, I'm going to see George Clinton here in paris...
Aren't they all a big freaking funking family ???


No need to speak in the past tense.
They are very active with their own label.
Their latest was recorded live at spots here in LA and elsewhere.

www.fishbone.net

You can hear ME on it. fro

I need to cop that MeShell; probably this week
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Reply #12 posted 07/09/02 3:33pm

Supernova

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I like Fishbone a lot, but I don't own anything by them.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #13 posted 07/12/02 7:32pm

mistermaxxx

PFunkjazz said:

Urbanhang22 said:

I'm currently listening to Sly and The Family Stone's "There's A Riot Goin' On" and I must say I am disappointed by the sound quality of the CD and the complete omission of the original album cover and liner notes. I guess Sony music wants to bury the deep messages of this album behind poor sound and by selectively omitting the liner notes. Prince hit the nail on the head with that verse in "The Everlasting Now", sadly Sly will never get the credit he deserves. Michael Jackson should be slapped for buying Sly's publishing rights and not having the decency to force Sony to restore the album to its original glory.



Those who truly know their funk know that RIOT is a true classic of the genre. It mos def gets its props and respect. You just ain't hanging 'round the right folks! fro

The orignal album cover is a great controversy. It feature a desecration of the US flag. A full-size replica with no lettering graphics and 16 pt stars in the field and the stripes are irregular and ragged-curvy. These LPs are very rare collector's items. I doubt you will every see this one reissued.

Another rarity is the orignal Dramatics WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET from '72, which featured a large disembodied black eye in a grim display of psychedelica...unheard of for a R&B vocal group!

I wanna know if any PRINCE fans any love for FISHBONE?
you are 110% Percent on the Money.the only Version of "there's a Riot goin'on" that doesn't get much attention is George Howard's Soft Jazz take.but then again neither did Najee's "Songs in the Key of Life" take on Stevie WOnder. Fishbone I have a few of there Discs&Tapes."Everyday Sunshine" gets madd Play in My Crib.also Black Flowers,there Re-Make of Curtis Mayfield's "Freddie's Dead" is tight.Mister Zero is nice as well.IMHO the Red Hot Chilli Peppers jacked there Whole Career as have No Dobut.Q-Love from the Roots once said I don't wanna be like Fishbone:quote The Greatest Band Nobody has Heard of.but I dig these Cats Energy&Edge.they will Spank your Ass on Stage.there's last Album had a Cover of SLy&The Family Stone's "Everybody is a Star' they had George Clinton,Rick James,Gweynn Stefani,etc.. Singing on that one track with them.that says alot about them considering they hardly get any Love.
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Reply #14 posted 07/15/02 4:40am

Brother915

PFunkjazz said:

Urbanhang22 said:

I'm currently listening to Sly and The Family Stone's "There's A Riot Goin' On" and I must say I am disappointed by the sound quality of the CD and the complete omission of the original album cover and liner notes. I guess Sony music wants to bury the deep messages of this album behind poor sound and by selectively omitting the liner notes. Prince hit the nail on the head with that verse in "The Everlasting Now", sadly Sly will never get the credit he deserves. Michael Jackson should be slapped for buying Sly's publishing rights and not having the decency to force Sony to restore the album to its original glory.



Those who truly know their funk know that RIOT is a true classic of the genre. It mos def gets its props and respect. You just ain't hanging 'round the right folks! fro

The orignal album cover is a great controversy. It feature a desecration of the US flag. A full-size replica with no lettering graphics and 16 pt stars in the field and the stripes are irregular and ragged-curvy. These LPs are very rare collector's items. I doubt you will every see this one reissued.

Another rarity is the orignal Dramatics WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET from '72, which featured a large disembodied black eye in a grim display of psychedelica...unheard of for a R&B vocal group!

I wanna know if any PRINCE fans any love for FISHBONE?



Yo PFUNKJAZZ, my uncle had that album and I remember seeing that flag on the cover, it is a collectors item. This is one of the most important albums in FUNK and ROCK history. Yes, this record, as well as, Sly's trilogy of important albums STAND, THERE'S A RIOT GOING ON, and FRESH are need of remastering. Sly took the whole world by surprise with this one though. Dark, sardonic yet troubling introspective lyrics.Poetically it is amazing. Sly was a troubled man at the time...

"The shorter cut is quicker but...HA HA HA HA..time is here to stay...look at you fooling you...

"You're deeper in debt the harder your bet...HEE HEE HEE HEE...you need more room to play...look at you fooling you

Lyrics to Runnin Away

Sly influenced on modern day funk pop and R$B is immeasureable. He was such an original, a true innovator and a daring visionary. Like Hendrix and Miles, the more time passes, the better his music is looking back in retrospect.
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Reply #15 posted 07/16/02 3:27pm

Essence

Sly Stone discussion group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/g...milystone/

My CD actually has the flag cover BTW.
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Reply #16 posted 07/16/02 11:07pm

Red

I'm still waiting for P to actually do 'Just Like A Baby', in concert - not a cover. RIOT would be a definite 'stranded island' pack for me.
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Reply #17 posted 07/17/02 5:14am

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PFunkjazz said:

Urbanhang22 said:

I'm currently listening to Sly and The Family Stone's "There's A Riot Goin' On" and I must say I am disappointed by the sound quality of the CD and the complete omission of the original album cover and liner notes. I guess Sony music wants to bury the deep messages of this album behind poor sound and by selectively omitting the liner notes. Prince hit the nail on the head with that verse in "The Everlasting Now", sadly Sly will never get the credit he deserves. Michael Jackson should be slapped for buying Sly's publishing rights and not having the decency to force Sony to restore the album to its original glory.



Those who truly know their funk know that RIOT is a true classic of the genre. It mos def gets its props and respect. You just ain't hanging 'round the right folks! fro

The orignal album cover is a great controversy. It feature a desecration of the US flag. A full-size replica with no lettering graphics and 16 pt stars in the field and the stripes are irregular and ragged-curvy. These LPs are very rare collector's items. I doubt you will every see this one reissued.

Another rarity is the orignal Dramatics WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET from '72, which featured a large disembodied black eye in a grim display of psychedelica...unheard of for a R&B vocal group!

I wanna know if any PRINCE fans any love for FISHBONE?



I am with you on the DRAMATICS release. its a wonderful album and it got some exposure in the "dead presidents" movie... "Get up... get down, get up on your feet..." a true mindblower. props to you for knowing about it and owning it. when I found it six years ago I was dancing in circles...
"Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" peace
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Reply #18 posted 07/17/02 5:46am

Brother915

soulpower said:

PFunkjazz said:

Urbanhang22 said:

I'm currently listening to Sly and The Family Stone's "There's A Riot Goin' On" and I must say I am disappointed by the sound quality of the CD and the complete omission of the original album cover and liner notes. I guess Sony music wants to bury the deep messages of this album behind poor sound and by selectively omitting the liner notes. Prince hit the nail on the head with that verse in "The Everlasting Now", sadly Sly will never get the credit he deserves. Michael Jackson should be slapped for buying Sly's publishing rights and not having the decency to force Sony to restore the album to its original glory.



Those who truly know their funk know that RIOT is a true classic of the genre. It mos def gets its props and respect. You just ain't hanging 'round the right folks! fro

The orignal album cover is a great controversy. It feature a desecration of the US flag. A full-size replica with no lettering graphics and 16 pt stars in the field and the stripes are irregular and ragged-curvy. These LPs are very rare collector's items. I doubt you will every see this one reissued.

Another rarity is the orignal Dramatics WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET from '72, which featured a large disembodied black eye in a grim display of psychedelica...unheard of for a R&B vocal group!

I wanna know if any PRINCE fans any love for FISHBONE?



I am with you on the DRAMATICS release. its a wonderful album and it got some exposure in the "dead presidents" movie... "Get up... get down, get up on your feet..." a true mindblower. props to you for knowing about it and owning it. when I found it six years ago I was dancing in circles...



Yes my pops got that album too (with that eye looking through some trees on the album cover). This Dramatics album is a 70's soul classic. Every song on this one is great. I love Ron Banks style of singing. He has that powerful gritty delivery. I love the way he sings on "In The Summertime"..."HEYYY THERE GIRL...YOU SHO LOOK GOOD IN THOSE HOT PANTS HOT PANTS" (LOL)
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