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Printablesallysassalot said: Lammastide said: I'm impressed. But given this performance, how is it that I'm just not being Madonnafied like I used to be? Am I just getting old and missing her all over TV and radio like she used to be? Or is her success coming via some other means to which I'm not privy -- maybe club play? FEROCIOUS word of mouth?
well, we're also not such easily impressed teens anymore, are we?  True. True. But are today's teens the ones buying millions of her records? Or is it still us? I honestly don't know who's buying millions of her records. I'm glad, though. I'm a fan. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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ehuffnsd said: Madonna Sets Two World Records!
Madonna's 'Confessions On A Dance Floor' set a new world record by going to No. 1 in a total of 40 countries, the most ever for an album. The worldwide sales now sit at 7.4 million for 'Confessions'. The lead single 'Hung Up' also sets a record for going to No. 1. It hit the top spot in 41 countries. 'Hung Up' has become one of Madonna’s best selling singles ever with a total sales of 4.7 million from digital, ringtones and single sales. You mean it's one of ABBA's best selling singles ever...   | |
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Lammastide said: sallysassalot said: well, we're also not such easily impressed teens anymore, are we? True. True. But are today's teens the ones buying millions of her records? Or is it still us? I honestly don't know who's buying millions of her records. I'm glad, though. I'm a fan. most of the album says are outside the states and i'd say those are bought by teens. in the states it's probably gays and middle aged women You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Lammastide said: sallysassalot said: well, we're also not such easily impressed teens anymore, are we? True. True. But are today's teens the ones buying millions of her records? Or is it still us? I honestly don't know who's buying millions of her records. I'm glad, though. I'm a fan. who's buying the records is kind of irrelevant when it comes to us growing up and out of that teen/early 20s excitement about her. but i do get excited about a tour!  | |
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Why DID this new cd sell so much?
No one's saying its any better than anything she's done. Is it because its retro disco and it unearthed all the closeted disco freaks? | |
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origmnd said: Why DID this new cd sell so much?
No one's saying its any better than anything she's done. Is it because its retro disco and it unearthed all the closeted disco freaks? actually people are saying its among her best. haven't you been listening or reading the comments? | |
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sallysassalot said: origmnd said: Why DID this new cd sell so much?
No one's saying its any better than anything she's done. Is it because its retro disco and it unearthed all the closeted disco freaks? actually people are saying its among her best. haven't you been listening or reading the comments? no i havent been reading those comments...so u are saying THATS why its over selling? not because of the disco flavor? | |
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origmnd said: sallysassalot said: actually people are saying its among her best. haven't you been listening or reading the comments? no i havent been reading those comments...so u are saying THATS why its over selling? not because of the disco flavor? i'm saying people like it so people are buying it. many are saying its madonna's most fun record in years. many long time fans are saying its some of her best stuff. even on this board people are saying how great it is. that's probably why its selling so well. she's giving people what they want. | |
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sallysassalot said: origmnd said: no i havent been reading those comments...so u are saying THATS why its over selling? not because of the disco flavor? i'm saying people like it so people are buying it. many are saying its madonna's most fun record in years. many long time fans are saying its some of her best stuff. even on this board people are saying how great it is. that's probably why its selling so well. she's giving people what they want. Well, "her best" doesn't mean very much when it comes to Madonna, so... | |
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EmancipationLover said: sallysassalot said: i'm saying people like it so people are buying it. many are saying its madonna's most fun record in years. many long time fans are saying its some of her best stuff. even on this board people are saying how great it is. that's probably why its selling so well. she's giving people what they want. Well, "her best" doesn't mean very much when it comes to Madonna, so... ...says the man whose favorite prince album appears to be "emancipation"
no offense, but i am not sure your definition of "the best" is so solid [Edited 3/20/06 13:46pm] Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: EmancipationLover said: Well, "her best" doesn't mean very much when it comes to Madonna, so... ...says the man whose favorite prince album appears to be "emancipation"
no offense, but i am not sure your definition of "the best" is so solid [Edited 3/20/06 13:46pm] Nope, my favourite is SOTT, followed by TRC. Emancipation #3. Honestly, enjoy Madonna as much as you want, she just doesn't do anything for me (exception: "True Blue", I really love that album). I think it's "I hire a hip producer and make some chart pop" by numbers. But she does it in a clever way, I give her that. | |
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EmancipationLover said: cborgman said: ...says the man whose favorite prince album appears to be "emancipation"
no offense, but i am not sure your definition of "the best" is so solid [Edited 3/20/06 13:46pm] Nope, my favourite is SOTT, followed by TRC. Emancipation #3. Honestly, enjoy Madonna as much as you want, she just doesn't do anything for me (exception: "True Blue", I really love that album). I think it's "I hire a hip producer and make some chart pop" by numbers. But she does it in a clever way, I give her that. its cool that you don't like her...hell, sometimes i don't like her. what the point is of your coming into a madonna discussion of this sort is beyond me, however. its like me going into a morrissey thread that is praising him; i don't like him so why would i go into that thread just to bash him? makes little sense to me. but ok. | |
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sallysassalot said: EmancipationLover said: Nope, my favourite is SOTT, followed by TRC. Emancipation #3. Honestly, enjoy Madonna as much as you want, she just doesn't do anything for me (exception: "True Blue", I really love that album). I think it's "I hire a hip producer and make some chart pop" by numbers. But she does it in a clever way, I give her that. its cool that you don't like her...hell, sometimes i don't like her. what the point is of your coming into a madonna discussion of this sort is beyond me, however. its like me going into a morrissey thread that is praising him; i don't like him so why would i go into that thread just to bash him? makes little sense to me. but ok.Sorry for that. Just felt the need to get out some sarcasm. Btw, if a thread title begins with "she may be a talentless hag but", doesn't that pretty much invite the Madonna haters to participate in the discussion too? I mean, I see the point not to enter a "Madonna appreciation thread" for people like me, but maybe then it should be labeled correctly. Anyway, sorry if I stepped on anyone's foot. Have fun with your discussion. | |
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EmancipationLover said: sallysassalot said: its cool that you don't like her...hell, sometimes i don't like her. what the point is of your coming into a madonna discussion of this sort is beyond me, however. its like me going into a morrissey thread that is praising him; i don't like him so why would i go into that thread just to bash him? makes little sense to me. but ok.Sorry for that. Just felt the need to get out some sarcasm. Btw, if a thread title begins with "she may be a talentless hag but", doesn't that pretty much invite the Madonna haters to participate in the discussion too? I mean, I see the point not to enter a "Madonna appreciation thread" for people like me, but maybe then it should be labeled correctly. Anyway, sorry if I stepped on anyone's foot. Have fun with your discussion. no worries, its all good. even in critiquing madonna, variety is the spice of life, right? the second half of thread title, though, was bragging about new records being set. to me, that says this is gonna be a thread full of madonna fans excited about those new records. | |
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EmancipationLover said: sallysassalot said: its cool that you don't like her...hell, sometimes i don't like her. what the point is of your coming into a madonna discussion of this sort is beyond me, however. its like me going into a morrissey thread that is praising him; i don't like him so why would i go into that thread just to bash him? makes little sense to me. but ok.Sorry for that. Just felt the need to get out some sarcasm. Btw, if a thread title begins with "she may be a talentless hag but", doesn't that pretty much invite the Madonna haters to participate in the discussion too? I mean, I see the point not to enter a "Madonna appreciation thread" for people like me, but maybe then it should be labeled correctly. Anyway, sorry if I stepped on anyone's foot. Have fun with your discussion. yes it does say that she is a talentless hag, but if you've ever stepped into a Madonna thread before you'd know that i believe and know Madonna to be the best pop artist in the past 25 years. I put the taltentless hag thing because i always find it diffcult for someone to claim she has no talent when October marks 24 years since the release of Everybody. How many artist are still revelent and moving the kind of numbers she is 24 years into their carears? You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: EmancipationLover said: Sorry for that. Just felt the need to get out some sarcasm. Btw, if a thread title begins with "she may be a talentless hag but", doesn't that pretty much invite the Madonna haters to participate in the discussion too? I mean, I see the point not to enter a "Madonna appreciation thread" for people like me, but maybe then it should be labeled correctly. Anyway, sorry if I stepped on anyone's foot. Have fun with your discussion. yes it does say that she is a talentless hag, but if you've ever stepped into a Madonna thread before you'd know that i believe and know Madonna to be the best pop artist in the past 25 years. I put the taltentless hag thing because i always find it diffcult for someone to claim she has no talent when October marks 24 years since the release of Everybody. How many artist are still revelent and moving the kind of numbers she is 24 years into their carears? Well, if I ever learned something on prince.org, then it is that you can throw shit on Prince as much as you like, but never, NEVER EVER, criticise Madonna!
Btw, I admire her for being big in that business for 24 years now. I even would call her a genius - a marketing genius. No one has ever played the rules of pop business as perfect as Madonna - commercially. I just don't think that she makes good music. Record sales don't equal good music - otherwise we all had to love Engelbert and Cliff Richard to death. Anyway, I was the party poop long enough - have a good time! And I still say "Hung up" is ABBA's highest selling single ever... LOL! | |
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EmancipationLover said: ehuffnsd said: yes it does say that she is a talentless hag, but if you've ever stepped into a Madonna thread before you'd know that i believe and know Madonna to be the best pop artist in the past 25 years. I put the taltentless hag thing because i always find it diffcult for someone to claim she has no talent when October marks 24 years since the release of Everybody. How many artist are still revelent and moving the kind of numbers she is 24 years into their carears? Well, if I ever learned something on prince.org, then it is that you can throw shit on Prince as much as you like, but never, NEVER EVER, criticise Madonna!
Btw, I admire her for being big in that business for 24 years now. I even would call her a genius - a marketing genius. No one has ever played the rules of pop business as perfect as Madonna - commercially. I just don't think that she makes good music. Record sales don't equal good music - otherwise we all had to love Engelbert and Cliff Richard to death. Anyway, I was the party poop long enough - have a good time! And I still say "Hung up" is ABBA's highest selling single ever... LOL! she paid a hefty sum to Bjorn and Beeny You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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So she's eligible for RNRHOF next year?
Oh nooo, that will just flood EVERYTHING with her.... | |
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ehuffnsd said: ...in the states it's probably gays and middle aged women
I bet you're right.Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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sallysassalot said: CynicKill said: BUT she still can't carry much of a tune, is a fair dancer and is a mediocre lyricist, things you wouldn't expect from such a popular artist with such staying power. Her acting is inconsequential to this subject but since she's tried so hard I must say, she's a terrible actress too.
this is what makes it all the more impressive. she really has mediocre talent in everything she does. she's never been a great dancer - especially for someone who studied dance for as long as she. she's never been much of a singer though during the evita era, when she was taking voice lessons, she improved a bit. it all goes to show that she has mastered the art of business. she really is the music industry's martha stewart or donald trump. she's the wolf in sheep's clothing, lol! | |
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origmnd said: So she's eligible for RNRHOF next year?
Oh nooo, that will just flood EVERYTHING with her.... NO... she is eligible in 2008. Her first single came out in 82, but her first album didn't come out until 83. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ThePunisher said: sallysassalot said: this is what makes it all the more impressive. she really has mediocre talent in everything she does. she's never been a great dancer - especially for someone who studied dance for as long as she. she's never been much of a singer though during the evita era, when she was taking voice lessons, she improved a bit. it all goes to show that she has mastered the art of business. she really is the music industry's martha stewart or donald trump. she's the wolf in sheep's clothing, lol! How do we know this? We've been privy to speculation and rumor for years, but unless we have some sort of inside info, how can we say this stuff is fact? Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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sallysassalot said: origmnd said: no i havent been reading those comments...so u are saying THATS why its over selling? not because of the disco flavor? i'm saying people like it so people are buying it. many are saying its madonna's most fun record in years. many long time fans are saying its some of her best stuff. even on this board people are saying how great it is. that's probably why its selling so well. she's giving people what they want. Exactly.It's just a fun,infectious pop/dance album,the kind of music that people expect from Madonna.She's giving people what they want and that's why the album is a worldwide smash. | |
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EmancipationLover said: I admire her for being big in that business for 24 years now. I even would call her a genius - a marketing genius. No one has ever played the rules of pop business as perfect as Madonna - commercially. I just don't think that she makes good music. Record sales don't equal good music - otherwise we all had to love Engelbert and Cliff Richard to death. Anyway, I was the party poop long enough - have a good time!
I think Madonna has made,and continues to make,some of the best pop/dance music ever.It's all just a matter of opinion,though,but I think her amazing longevity speaks for itself. | |
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But her thighs make me so uncomfortable.... | |
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EXCLUSIVE TOUR NEWS!!
***so far,they have spent $3 million on the sound alone,and although the stage looks small,it is quite amazing with with 200 disco balls used. ***Every song from 'COADF' is on the setlist except for "Future Lovers" 
***an unrecognizably different version of "Erotica" has made the setlist ***"Borderline" is there as well ***"Hollywood" is on the setlist ***"Where's The Party" has made the setlist too!!
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DavidEye said: [b]
***Every song from 'COADF' is on the setlist except for "Future Lovers"
Man, this bites.  
How can this be? That whole intro is about as theatrical as you can get. It screams performance!  Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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i'm gonna have to sit the "tour updates" out. i won't believe any of it until the opening night performance. too many stories will surfacein the next few months, all of them contradicting one another.
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badujunkie said: the MOST TALENTED talentless hag that ever lived. i can't wait to pay 2 grand to see her from the back balcony on her tour this summer.
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DavidEye said: LL Cool J recently spoke about Madonna,and I think he says it best:
"Madonna has been a strong influence on me in alot of ways.I've always admired the way she's handled her career.They counted her out,and she's caught up right now.There's a very 'what-have-you-done-for-me-lately' mentality in the music business.But art and the music business are two different things and you can never count out a great artist". .jpg) When a talentless "rapper" talks about a talentless "singer"...  | |
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