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Reply #30 posted 03/16/06 9:51am

kisscamille

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Pink is the bomb and deserves whatever success she has. She can sing nod


Pink can sing, but TTD can't?? No offence, but I don't get it.

I also don't get why 3/4 of todays' so called artist are successful. It boggles my mind.
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Reply #31 posted 03/16/06 9:58am

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White Stripes , everything sounds the same and repetitive
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Reply #32 posted 03/16/06 10:43am

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Frank Sinatra


oh come on, quit it now... you can't be serious, can you?

Frank together with Billie Holiday pretty much defined what is "singing" in Pop music culture... before them there was nothing... the impact those had at their time is on the same level with MJ in the 80ees



On Billie we agree, but Frank? Just a white dude singing. That's it.
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Reply #33 posted 03/16/06 10:47am

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You're saying to world's coolest, oldest, and most successful rockers are fake? falloff

And LL Cool J is a fake MC?



lol I'm laughing at his entire post...

Me too. biggrin ALthough some of it I agree with, and some I most certainly do not. hmph!
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Reply #34 posted 03/16/06 10:51am

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Dancelot said:

Graycap23 said:

Frank Sinatra


oh come on, quit it now... you can't be serious, can you?

Frank together with Billie Holiday pretty much defined what is "singing" in Pop music culture... before them there was nothing... the impact those had at their time is on the same level with MJ in the 80ees

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Frank was amazing. mushy And a good actor and dancer as well. nod
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Reply #35 posted 03/16/06 10:58am

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Graycap23 said:

Dancelot said:



oh come on, quit it now... you can't be serious, can you?

Frank together with Billie Holiday pretty much defined what is "singing" in Pop music culture... before them there was nothing... the impact those had at their time is on the same level with MJ in the 80ees



On Billie we agree, but Frank? Just a white dude singing. That's it.


Wow, what an ignorant comment. Frank was a very good singer and is considered one of the finest singers/performers of his generation. I think it's a shame that you see Frank as "just a white dude singing".
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Reply #36 posted 03/16/06 11:00am

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Graycap23 said:




On Billie we agree, but Frank? Just a white dude singing. That's it.


Wow, what an ignorant comment. Frank was a very good singer and is considered one of the finest singers/performers of his generation. I think it's a shame that you see Frank as "just a white dude singing".

Ditto on that.

and edit to say that is Graycap talking about the very same Frank Sinatra that we are? whofarted lol Because he is a legend. Granted, his voice went downhill towards the end of his singing career, and IMO he became sort of cheesy, but The Capitol years!!! drool
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Reply #37 posted 03/16/06 11:31am

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Graycap23 said:




On Billie we agree, but Frank? Just a white dude singing. That's it.


Wow, what an ignorant comment. Frank was a very good singer and is considered one of the finest singers/performers of his generation. I think it's a shame that you see Frank as "just a white dude singing".


Interesting that u see it that way. I guess it depends on how you measure what makes a good singer. For me, if I close my eyes and listen to music, one of 2 things happen, either I "feel" the music in my soul, or I don't. If I don't "feel" the music, it falls into the shit category. That's just they way I measure it. Everyone measures it differently for themselves. I just don't see the legend that Frank has been made out to be. His music does not move at all. Not even a little. Elvis could run rings around Frank.
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Reply #38 posted 03/16/06 1:07pm

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Graycap23 said:

kisscamille said:



Wow, what an ignorant comment. Frank was a very good singer and is considered one of the finest singers/performers of his generation. I think it's a shame that you see Frank as "just a white dude singing".


Interesting that u see it that way. I guess it depends on how you measure what makes a good singer. For me, if I close my eyes and listen to music, one of 2 things happen, either I "feel" the music in my soul, or I don't. If I don't "feel" the music, it falls into the shit category. That's just they way I measure it. Everyone measures it differently for themselves. I just don't see the legend that Frank has been made out to be. His music does not move at all. Not even a little. Elvis could run rings around Frank.

I "feel" Frank's music and the delivery of it way more than Elvis' music. The way he sings songs like "Three Coins in the Fountain", "I've Got You Under My Skin", "In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning", "What is This Thing Called Love", etc. is done just beautifully. It's WHY he is such a legend, and why so many others after him have tried to copy his style. One of my all-time favorite singing voices and performers ever.

"Just a white dude singing. That's it."

And Frank was Italian, born in New Jersey. So you might want to change that to "just some Italian dude singing" instead.
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Reply #39 posted 03/16/06 1:15pm

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Graycap23 said:



Interesting that u see it that way. I guess it depends on how you measure what makes a good singer. For me, if I close my eyes and listen to music, one of 2 things happen, either I "feel" the music in my soul, or I don't. If I don't "feel" the music, it falls into the shit category. That's just they way I measure it. Everyone measures it differently for themselves. I just don't see the legend that Frank has been made out to be. His music does not move at all. Not even a little. Elvis could run rings around Frank.

I "feel" Frank's music and the delivery of it way more than Elvis' music. The way he sings songs like "Three Coins in the Fountain", "I've Got You Under My Skin", "In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning", "What is This Thing Called Love", etc. is done just beautifully. It's WHY he is such a legend, and why so many others after him have tried to copy his style. One of my all-time favorite singing voices and performers ever.

"Just a white dude singing. That's it."

And Frank was Italian, born in New Jersey. So you might want to change that to "just some Italian dude singing" instead.


I see. I'm surprise he was able to carve out a career with Jerry lee lewis, Elvis, Little Richard, James Brown, and all those other cats around. To each his own I guess. I've tried to like him but just can't get into it. The same holds true for Jimi Hendrix. It's just loud noise to me. I dig his Blues cd, but not the other stuff.
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Reply #40 posted 03/16/06 1:19pm

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Eminem
BJork
Ciara
Ashanti
Franz ferdinand
Fantasia
Backstreet Boys
Hillary Duff
Beyonce
50 %
Alanis Morisette
Ashlee Simpson
Jessica Simpson(i dont know how succeesful she actually is)
Usher
Mario
Pretty Ricky
Chris Brown
Michael Bolton
Amy Grant
D4l
MeatLoaf
Britney Spears
Natasha Beddingfield
Lil Jon
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Reply #41 posted 03/16/06 1:20pm

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disbelief His ballads are fantastic ; check out Little Wing , The Wind Cries Mary, Drifting , Castles Made Of Sand , One Rainy Wish , Angel , 1983 (A Merman I Should Turn To Be)
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Reply #42 posted 03/16/06 1:21pm

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Graycap23 said:

minneapolisgenius said:


I "feel" Frank's music and the delivery of it way more than Elvis' music. The way he sings songs like "Three Coins in the Fountain", "I've Got You Under My Skin", "In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning", "What is This Thing Called Love", etc. is done just beautifully. It's WHY he is such a legend, and why so many others after him have tried to copy his style. One of my all-time favorite singing voices and performers ever.

"Just a white dude singing. That's it."

And Frank was Italian, born in New Jersey. So you might want to change that to "just some Italian dude singing" instead.


I see. I'm surprise he was able to carve out a career with Jerry lee lewis, Elvis, Little Richard, James Brown, and all those other cats around. To each his own I guess. I've tried to like him but just can't get into it. The same holds true for Jimi Hendrix. It's just loud noise to me. I dig his Blues cd, but not the other stuff.

Oh just you wait for people to unleash their wrath on you for the Hendrix comment. lol I don't even know where to BEGIN with you on that one. doh!




Frank's career began in the late 30s and he was already a huge star by the early 40s, so I don't think he had anything to worry about as far as competition goes from the others that you listed who that came after him.
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Reply #43 posted 03/16/06 1:22pm

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Oh How could i forget GWEN STEFANI she stinks to high heaven
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Reply #44 posted 03/16/06 1:46pm

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minneapolisgenius said:

Graycap23 said:



I see. I'm surprise he was able to carve out a career with Jerry lee lewis, Elvis, Little Richard, James Brown, and all those other cats around. To each his own I guess. I've tried to like him but just can't get into it. The same holds true for Jimi Hendrix. It's just loud noise to me. I dig his Blues cd, but not the other stuff.

Oh just you wait for people to unleash their wrath on you for the Hendrix comment. lol I don't even know where to BEGIN with you on that one. doh!




Frank's career began in the late 30s and he was already a huge star by the early 40s, so I don't think he had anything to worry about as far as competition goes from the others that you listed who that came after him.


Man alot of people "like" Jimi because they are "supposed" to like Jimi.
I call it they way that "I" see it.
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Reply #45 posted 03/16/06 1:51pm

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Graycap23 said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Oh just you wait for people to unleash their wrath on you for the Hendrix comment. lol I don't even know where to BEGIN with you on that one. doh!




Frank's career began in the late 30s and he was already a huge star by the early 40s, so I don't think he had anything to worry about as far as competition goes from the others that you listed who that came after him.


Man alot of people "like" Jimi because they are "supposed" to like Jimi.
I call it they way that "I" see it.

I love Jimi because of his innovation and what he did for the music scene. AND his music and style of playing. Not because I'm supposed to. hmm I loved his sound from my very first listen. It's a shame he didn't stick around long enough to experiment further.
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Reply #46 posted 03/16/06 1:54pm

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minneapolisgenius said:

Graycap23 said:



Man alot of people "like" Jimi because they are "supposed" to like Jimi.
I call it they way that "I" see it.

I love Jimi because of his innovation and what he did for the music scene. AND his music and style of playing. Not because I'm supposed to. hmm I loved his sound from my very first listen. It's a shame he didn't stick around long enough to experiment further.


I dig where u are coming from..... but America has a lot of "bandwagon" fans of all types. You can't even discuss issues in an honest way, especially if you tell people something that goes against the "status" quo.
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Reply #47 posted 03/16/06 2:09pm

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Graycap23 said:

minneapolisgenius said:


I love Jimi because of his innovation and what he did for the music scene. AND his music and style of playing. Not because I'm supposed to. hmm I loved his sound from my very first listen. It's a shame he didn't stick around long enough to experiment further.


I dig where u are coming from..... but America has a lot of "bandwagon" fans of all types. You can't even discuss issues in an honest way, especially if you tell people something that goes against the "status" quo.


I agree. I mean, yes why would you say you're into someone if you're really not. But I assume you're a Prince fan, which always makes me wonder...





hmmm Just wondering how someone cannot appreciate the original and all.
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Reply #48 posted 03/16/06 2:16pm

Graycap23

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Graycap23 said:



I dig where u are coming from..... but America has a lot of "bandwagon" fans of all types. You can't even discuss issues in an honest way, especially if you tell people something that goes against the "status" quo.


I agree. I mean, yes why would you say you're into someone if you're really not. But I assume you're a Prince fan, which always makes me wonder...





hmmm Just wondering how someone cannot appreciate the original and all.


Good question. I have all of Jimi's stuff but I only listen to the blues cd. The other stuff really does hurt my ears. I'm glad that he impacted Prince though. I love Prince's guitar licks.
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Reply #49 posted 03/17/06 9:25am

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minneapolisgenius said:

Graycap23 said:



Interesting that u see it that way. I guess it depends on how you measure what makes a good singer. For me, if I close my eyes and listen to music, one of 2 things happen, either I "feel" the music in my soul, or I don't. If I don't "feel" the music, it falls into the shit category. That's just they way I measure it. Everyone measures it differently for themselves. I just don't see the legend that Frank has been made out to be. His music does not move at all. Not even a little. Elvis could run rings around Frank.

I "feel" Frank's music and the delivery of it way more than Elvis' music. The way he sings songs like "Three Coins in the Fountain", "I've Got You Under My Skin", "In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning", "What is This Thing Called Love", etc. is done just beautifully. It's WHY he is such a legend, and why so many others after him have tried to copy his style. One of my all-time favorite singing voices and performers ever.

"Just a white dude singing. That's it."

And Frank was Italian, born in New Jersey. So you might want to change that to "just some Italian dude singing" instead.


I feel Frank's music too. This is how I know if I like an artist or their music. I have to feel it inside. Frank made some great recordings in his time. Yes, his voice was rough near the end, but who's wouldn't be? Elvis was good, but his voice was no where near as good and pure as Franks.
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Reply #50 posted 03/17/06 9:26am

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kisscamille said:

minneapolisgenius said:


I "feel" Frank's music and the delivery of it way more than Elvis' music. The way he sings songs like "Three Coins in the Fountain", "I've Got You Under My Skin", "In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning", "What is This Thing Called Love", etc. is done just beautifully. It's WHY he is such a legend, and why so many others after him have tried to copy his style. One of my all-time favorite singing voices and performers ever.

"Just a white dude singing. That's it."

And Frank was Italian, born in New Jersey. So you might want to change that to "just some Italian dude singing" instead.


I feel Frank's music too. This is how I know if I like an artist or their music. I have to feel it inside. Frank made some great recordings in his time. Yes, his voice was rough near the end, but who's wouldn't be? Elvis was good, but his voice was no where near as good and pure as Franks.

I agree. Although I can't even really compare the two, as far as voices go. totally different anyway. nod
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Reply #51 posted 03/19/06 9:50pm

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kisscamille said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Pink is the bomb and deserves whatever success she has. She can sing nod


Pink can sing, but TTD can't?? No offence, but I don't get it.

I also don't get why 3/4 of todays' so called artist are successful. It boggles my mind.


lol Supa was kidding on that TTD thread giggle

But yea, Pink has a killer voice. She just uses it on mediocre songs for the most part, causing me not to listen sigh
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Reply #52 posted 03/19/06 11:53pm

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minneapolisgenius said:

kisscamille said:



I feel Frank's music too. This is how I know if I like an artist or their music. I have to feel it inside. Frank made some great recordings in his time. Yes, his voice was rough near the end, but who's wouldn't be? Elvis was good, but his voice was no where near as good and pure as Franks.

I agree. Although I can't even really compare the two, as far as voices go. totally different anyway. nod


Not to mention that Frank Sinatra was an INCREDIBLE showman. The charisma he brought to the stage, the way he worked a song, raw sex appeal... Born for the stage all the way. Forget the CDs, get a video of him performing. He and Judy Garland could give everything they had to a song.

He was an amazing actor too. Check out From Here To Eternity.
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Reply #53 posted 03/20/06 2:13am

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kanamit said:

1- Fake Mc's & Fake RNB: 50 CENT, Pharell, Nelly, LLCool J, DMX,Missy...

2- Fake Singers: Britney, Kylie, Reality TV singers,

3- Fake Showman: Celine Dion, Madonna,Usher, MJ(except BAD Tour)

4- Fake Musician: Lenny, Beck, Wyclef, Elton John

5- Fake Rockers: Aerosmith , Bon Jovi, Rolling Stones

and so much more.....

To Be Continued....


You're saying to world's coolest, oldest, and most successful rockers are fake? falloff

And LL Cool J is a fake MC?

add in michael jackson being a fake showman. this guy has no clue
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Reply #54 posted 03/20/06 2:15am

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"Just a white dude singing. That's it."

And Frank was Italian, born in New Jersey. So you might want to change that to "just some Italian dude singing" instead.

erm ,why? when italian is white. why does he have to be specific? does that mean if someone was french they'd have to change it to "just a french dude...". sorry but that is such a stupid nitpicky thing to say.
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Reply #55 posted 03/20/06 4:44am

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minneapolisgenius said:


I agree. Although I can't even really compare the two, as far as voices go. totally different anyway. nod


Not to mention that Frank Sinatra was an INCREDIBLE showman. The charisma he brought to the stage, the way he worked a song, raw sex appeal... Born for the stage all the way. Forget the CDs, get a video of him performing. He and Judy Garland could give everything they had to a song.

He was an amazing actor too. Check out From Here To Eternity.

That's my favorite way of enjoying Frank. nod I love it when he's teamed up with Gene Kelly. drool
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Reply #56 posted 03/20/06 4:51am

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hellomoto said:

minneapolisgenius said:

"Just a white dude singing. That's it."

And Frank was Italian, born in New Jersey. So you might want to change that to "just some Italian dude singing" instead.

erm ,why? when italian is white. why does he have to be specific? does that mean if someone was french they'd have to change it to "just a french dude...". sorry but that is such a stupid nitpicky thing to say.

He's the one who called Frank "just some white guy singing", not me. I was being facetious anyway. neutral I just pointed out that he was Italian (his parents were both immigrants from Italy and newly in America I imagine as it was 1915) in response to his comment about him being white, which IMO didn't have anything to do with anything. And Italian is white? Hmm, I thought it was Italian. Silly me. shrug
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Reply #57 posted 03/20/06 5:23am

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Geeee,some people in here really think they know it all,don't they?..
Careers you don't get?...They sell albums,what is it about that you don't get?
(you may not like to see an act sell that many albums maybe,but can't you see who's buying them?..)
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