LOL! Every post is a history and sociology lesson.

Let me clarify... TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, Isaac Hayes is best known for one hit--Shaft, for which he won an Oscar. Given the short attention span of the general public, they may only know him for "Chocolate Salty Balls".

Similarly, Prince, TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, is best known for Purple Rain.

Does that mean that Isaac Hayes isn't a seminal musical influence? No. It just means that teens, if they *ever* heard of him in WhiteLandia, would recognize him as the Shaft dude. Isaac Hayes is the wrong generation and the wrong genre for what sells nowadays. From his era, if you're not in the Rolling Stones, then you're not deified in the Rock and Roll Press.

Wanna dispute it? Ask a coworker or fellow student or even a pal who's not into rhythm and blues, funk, or soul music to name THREE Isaac Hayes albums, songs, or accomplishments.

I guarantee the top two will be Shaft, and Chef. Hot Buttered Soul, Black Moses and Scientology won't even be mentioned despite his long advocacy of that "religion". His acting and radio work won't even be remembered.


I love the net. People get riled up over the silliest s**t.

Alasseon said:

, don't underestimate us crackers

I still fail to get this "moron" business.

Alasseon said:

That was one of the funniest newer episodes too.

Alasseon said:

I never knew that either. I always just knew it from Bugs Bunny as well, and have been quoting him saying that all my life, as I know just about every Bugs episode ever.

Of course there were plenty of politically incorrect Bugs cartoons, like all the Native American ones, and the Speedy Gonzalez ones with all the drunk Mexicans, etc.
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from dictionary.com:

n.
often Maroon
A fugitive Black slave in the West Indies in the 17th and 18th centuries.
A descendant of such a slave.

I had never heard of this until this thread either.

I love the random pieces of good information I learn on the Org.

GOOD FOR ISAAC!!!!! His legacy is bigger than "Chef" or "Shaft", because that's all the "Average Idiot" knows of him, Singer, songwriter, producer, arranger, actor. It's much deeper than "Chef". But at the same time it's sad because that's all the average idiot knows. I suggest some of y'all start with "Hot Buttered Soul" from 1969. The funk, passion, and drama of four songs (that's right, FOUR SONGS) is INTENSE!!!!! You'll start to slowly realize that this man is Hip-Hop & R&B history probably 2nd to James Brown. You'll probably realize that after the 1st side of the LP/CD. After Hot Buttered Soul, I dare you, all you "Average Idiots" to dig in the Isaac Hayes crates. He was responsible for "Glory Box" by Portishead. Massive Attack loves to dig in the Isaac Hayes crates as well. Maybe, just maybe Isaac's about to drop another funky bomb on us.....Who is the man????? TRUST ME: IT'S DEEPER THAN EVEN CHEF OR SHAFT COULD IMAGINE!!!!!

woogiebear said:

I think you're preaching to the wrong crowd

Alasseon said:

Isaac HAyes had more than 1 hit. He is a soul legend.

musicman said:

You should read some of the earlier posts...

Ok, I was late on the thread. I'm glad ya'll ginging Isaac love.

that should be "giving." One day I'll learn to type.

FuNkeNsteiN said:

who is Shaft?

MikeMatronik said:

you're joking,right?

'Shaft' is a popular 1971 "blaxploitation" movie.Isaac Hayes recorded the 2-LP soundtrack and even won an Academy Award for the music.The title song was a massive hit back then.

DavidEye said:

I'm not!

I'm Portuguese...and I live in Portugal.
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FuNkeNsteiN said:

MAYBE NOT

POOK LOVE PORTISHEAD!

ALSO ABOUT MAROON

IT MEAN DARK RED COLOR

OR TO STRAND ON ISLAND LIKE BOONE AND LOCKE!

MikeMatronik said:

Well, I live in Finland and I still know who Shaft is. Everyone needs to know who Shaft is

FuNkeNsteiN said:

minneapolisgenius said:

It sure was. I don't get why Isaac is just now leaving either. South Park has done tons of offensive episodes in the past. They've always poked fun at Jews, Catholics and mainstream Christians. It sure wasn't a shock to me that they eventually caught up to Scientology.

I'm sorry, but that R. Kelly/John Travolta/Tom Cruise/Trapped in the closet mess was frickin' hilarious.

OdysseyMiles said:

And don't forget Muslims and Mormons as well.

That was hilarious though.

"And now I'm in the closet....."


I think that was the one that Tom Cruise tried to have banned.

Does Xenu approve thiizzz:

endorphin74 said:

agreed.

Neversin said:

Well, it certainly seems that the Scientologist factions of the entertainment industry are becoming more and more vocal (and, in the process, making gigantic asses out of themselves). I love Isaac Hayes for all of his great funk/soul work, but I'm damned disappointed in him. South Park, since BEFORE it ever was picked up by Comedy Central, mocked religion (and pretty much everything else). I mean, the first two shorts Stone and Parker ever did featured Jesus!

Hayes had no problem with Jesus being a regular character that was mocked. He had no problem with all the episodes sending up Jews, Muslims, Christians, Mormons and pretty much everyone else. He decides it's time to speak out against "religious intolerance" AFTER they send up HIS religion? Mmm Hmm. It was fine as long as it didn't poke fun at what he believed. Everyone else's beliefs? Screw 'em! Just as long as they leave HIS alone.

Oh, by the way, thanks to Funkmistress for the education! I've used the expression "maroon" many times over the years, in reference to the Bugs Bunny cartoons. I had no idea I might be offending someone.

MikeMatronik said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I never knew that either. When I first saw the thread title. I immediately imagined Bugs Bunny saying it. It became obvious as I got older how some of the more offensive bits were cut out of the Looney Toons (like how everytime a bomb would explode in someone's face, they would look like Sambo afterward). I'd like to see those toons uncensored.

minneapolisgenius said:

that whole show is a trip. i'm ashamed to say i wasn't a good parent. my oldest used to watch this show and i didn't have a clue about the content of it. my oldest son is only 11 but his humour is really mature. i walked past his room too see what the hell he was laughing at and it was this south park stuff! the shit is funny but he won't be watching it any more, its for me to watch now