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Public Enemy's curveball - "Rebirth of a Nation"




OK, so their latest one has dropped now... who's has heard it, what's your thoughts?

of course this is not really a proper PE album, and nowhere close to their classics joints (and no one was expecting that) Officially credited to "Public Enemy featuring Paris", it's much more the other way around. sure, Griff is there an even Sister Souljah has a short appearance, but still no Bomb Squad. Paris is providing ALL the music, production and even most of the lyrics, Chuck and Flavor are essentially hired to put down some vocals. I've listened to it now twice and certainly can't give a final verdict, but it DOES hold some memorable tracks. the beats are not exactly revolutioniary but surely enough to keep one interested... and lyric wise some Bush slammin is always a winner with me giggle



currently listening to "They call me Flavor" headbang after the first spin my instant favorite of the album, out of pure nostalgia touched woot!





here's what their website has to say about it


http://www.publicenemy.com/

Public Enemy Returns, With Guest

Chuck D enlists Bay Area rapper Paris to pen his rhymes on "Rebirth"

Why would one of hip-hop's most legendary lyricists recruit another MC to write him an album full of rhymes? According to Public Enemy's Chuck D, it's an experiment he's been wanting to try for some time, finally realized on Rebirth of a Nation, due March 7th.
The album features veteran Bay Area rapper, producer and activist Paris, who not only created the music but also wrote "98 percent" of Chuck's verses. "I was gonna have somebody do it one time, and he happened to be the one," says Chuck, who adds that he hadn't seriously considered any other collaborators. "I told Paris that he would have to come more than halfway to make this happen. There was a diligence he had that was very thorough."

However, Chuck considers the album -- billed as "Public Enemy featuring Paris" -- "a special project," separate from the rest of the group's catalog. "I look at this album as a work [un]to itself," he says. "I don't mix it with anything else that I do."

The collaboration began in 2002, when Paris contributed a song to Public Enemy's Revolverlution album, and Chuck says their work on Rebirth of a Nation went smoothly. "There were things where I would say, 'I'm not really agreeing with that line,' and he would just redo it and come right back," he says. "He worked me through the inflections. It was a lot of meticulous work."

Rebirth, to be released on Paris' own Guerilla Funk label, deals with militantly leftist themes that will be familiar to Public Enemy fans. The opening cut, "Raw Shit," features guest vocalist MC Ren of West Coast gangsta-rap pioneers N.W.A., and addresses a litany of issues -- from Iraq to American poverty and racism. On the cut, which quotes from the 1988 Public Enemy classic "Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos," Chuck sneers, "Don't tell me that the war is won."

Public Enemy's Minister of Information, Professor Griff, appears on the rock-influenced title track, while Flavor Flav is featured throughout. "Flav's recordings are what they always have been since the Eighties," Chuck says of Flav, whose appearances on reality shows like VH1's Strange Love stirred up more controversy for the group last year. "Flav has a day of recording, and then his vocals are dispersed around," says Chuck. "So it's not like he's sitting in the studio, waiting for an ad-lib. He has the easiest job, really, of anybody."

Rebirth was originally slated for release last August, but was delayed, Chuck says, when retailers and distributors objected to carrying two Public Enemy albums within months of one another. The other disc, New Whirl Odor, hit stores late last year through Chuck's Slam Jamz imprint. (Chuck D removed Public Enemy from its longtime home at Def Jam several years ago after a dispute over free downloads.) "This is not 1967," he says, "where you have cats put out an album and another one four months later."

That said, the next Chuck D-penned Public Enemy album, How You Sell Soul to a Soulless People Who've Sold Their Soul, featuring production from longtime friend and Bomb Squad member Gary G-Wiz, will hit next spring.

"New Whirl Odor had to come out first, and then here comes a curveball," Chuck says. "And next comes How You Sell Soul. So it's, like, fastball, curveball, fastball."
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Reply #1 posted 03/05/06 11:55am

Anx

i kinda cooled on PE after "he got game", but i love their old stuff enough that i keep wanting them to have a creative rebirth...i don't know if it will ever happen, but this sounds kinda promising.
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Reply #2 posted 03/05/06 12:03pm

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As a fan of PE I thought this was a little boring, at least by PE standards. But Chuck said more or less it was "project" and not really a PE album proper so all is forgiven.
Check out New Whirl Odor. The first in the trilogy.
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Reply #3 posted 03/05/06 12:08pm

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Bfunkthe1 said:

As a fan of PE I thought this was a little boring, at least by PE standards. But Chuck said more or less it was "project" and not really a PE album proper so all is forgiven.
Check out New Whirl Odor. The first in the trilogy.

yep, I actually enjoyed NWO quite a lot. I hope that No 3 could be the best in the trilogy, it's going back to "...featuring production from longtime friend and Bomb Squad member Gary G-Wiz"
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Anx said:

i kinda cooled on PE after "he got game", but i love their old stuff enough that i keep wanting them to have a creative rebirth...i don't know if it will ever happen, but this sounds kinda promising.

I'm hoping for the same not only for PE but also for quite a bunch of other artists... Prince... Stevie... EWF... in most cases with rather modest success lol


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Reply #5 posted 03/05/06 12:13pm

Anx

Dancelot said:

Anx said:

i kinda cooled on PE after "he got game", but i love their old stuff enough that i keep wanting them to have a creative rebirth...i don't know if it will ever happen, but this sounds kinda promising.

I'm hoping for the same for quite a bunch of other artists... Prince... Stevie... EWF... in most cases with rather modest success lol


prince at least is putting in the effort. i really believe that, and it makes me excited for him. stevie, it's like, they keep trying, but the car keeps stalling for some reason or another. PE, it just feels like they've been in the same mode prince was in around the time of the hit'n'run tour, only for the past decade or so. it's frustrating. flava's reality tv comeback doesn't help matters, either, i don't think. it kinda trivializes what PE was all about. but good for him for saving his career, i guess.
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Anx said:

flava's reality tv comeback doesn't help matters

now tha is something we Europeans luckily missed out on giggle
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Reply #7 posted 03/05/06 12:22pm

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Anx said:

i kinda cooled on PE after "he got game", but i love their old stuff enough that i keep wanting them to have a creative rebirth...i don't know if it will ever happen, but this sounds kinda promising.

To be honest PE's first 3 releases rank as good as anything I dig so agree with them not being as "creative" as they used to be. That said, "Revolverlution" is actually really cool.
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Reply #8 posted 03/05/06 1:40pm

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Dancelot said:

Anx said:

flava's reality tv comeback doesn't help matters

now tha is something we Europeans luckily missed out on giggle

You didn't miss nothing. You're better off for it.
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Reply #9 posted 03/05/06 11:20pm

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Bfunkthe1 said:

Dancelot said:


now tha is something we Europeans luckily missed out on giggle

You didn't miss nothing. You're better off for it.


judging from various web sources and comments on this board... I believe ya biggrin

still I don't think that our heavily sucking reality shows are anywhere better than yours err headache


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Reply #10 posted 03/11/06 9:01am

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Dancelot said:[quote]


OK, so their latest one has dropped now... who's has heard it, what's your thoughts?

of course this is not really a proper PE album, and nowhere close to their classics joints (and no one was expecting that) Officially credited to "Public Enemy featuring Paris", it's much more the other way around. sure, Griff is there an even Sister Souljah has a short appearance, but still no Bomb Squad. Paris is providing ALL the music, production and even most of the lyrics, Chuck and Flavor are essentially hired to put down some vocals. I've listened to it now twice and certainly can't give a final verdict, but it DOES hold some memorable tracks. the beats are not exactly revolutioniary but surely enough to keep one interested... and lyric wise some Bush slammin is always a winner with me giggle



currently listening to "They call me Flavor" headbang after the first spin my instant favorite of the album, out of pure nostalgia touched woot!





here's what their website has to say about it


http://www.publicenemy.com/

Public Enemy Returns, With Guest

Chuck D enlists Bay Area rapper Paris to pen his rhymes on "Rebirth"

Why would one of hip-hop's most legendary lyricists recruit another MC to write him an album full of rhymes? According to Public Enemy's Chuck D, it's an experiment he's been wanting to try for some time, finally realized on Rebirth of a Nation, due March 7th.
The album features veteran Bay Area rapper, producer and activist Paris, who not only created the music but also wrote "98 percent" of Chuck's verses. "I was gonna have somebody do it one time, and he happened to be the one," says Chuck, who adds that he hadn't seriously considered any other collaborators. "I told Paris that he would have to come more than halfway to make this happen. There was a diligeUnce he had that was very thorough."

However, Chuck considers the album -- billed as "Public Enemy featuring Paris" -- "a special project," separate from the rest of the group's catalog. "I look at this album as a work [un]to itself," he says. "I don't mix it with anything else that I do."

The collaboration began in 2002, when Paris contributed a song to Public Enemy's Revolverlution album, and Chuck says their work on Rebirth of a Nation went smoothly. "There were things where I would say, 'I'm not really agreeing with that line,' and he would just redo it and come right back," he says. "He worked me through the inflections. It was a lot of meticulous work."

Rebirth, to be released on Paris' own Guerilla Funk label, deals with militantly leftist themes that will be familiar to Public Enemy fans. The opening cut, "Raw Shit," features guest vocalist MC Ren of West Coast gangsta-rap pioneers N.W.A., and addresses a litany of issues -- from Iraq to American poverty and racism. On the cut, which quotes from the 1988 Public Enemy classic "Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos," Chuck sneers, "Don't tell me that the war is won."

Public Enemy's Minister of Information, Professor Griff, appears on the rock-influenced title track, while Flavor Flav is featured throughout. "Flav's recordings are what they always have been since the Eighties," Chuck says of Flav, whose appearances on reality shows like VH1's Strange Love stirred up more controversy for the group last year. "Flav has a day of recording, and then his vocals are dispersed around," says Chuck. "So it's not like he's sitting in the studio, waiting for an ad-lib. He has the easiest job, really, of anybody."

Rebirth was originally slated for release last August, but was delayed, Chuck says, when retailers and distributors objected to carrying two Public Enemy albums within months of one another. The other disc, New Whirl Odor, hit stores late last year through Chuck's Slam Jamz imprint. (Chuck D removed Public Enemy from its longtime home at Def Jam several years ago after a dispute over free downloads.) "This is not 1967," he says, "where you have cats put out an album and another one four months later."

That said, the next Chuck D-penned Public Enemy album, How You Sell Soul to a Soulless People Who've Sold Their Soul, featuring production from longtime friend and Bomb Squad member Gary G-Wiz, will hit next spring.

"New Whirl Odor had to come out first, and then here comes a curveball," Chuck says. "And next comes How You Sell Soul. So it's, like, fastball, curveball, fastball.[quote]U DON,T KNOW CKUCK D SO U CAN,T SAY THINGS ABOUT HIM THAT U DON,T KNOW I,M HERE 2 TELL U IT,S SOMETHING ELSE PUBLIC ENEMY RULES AND THAT,S OLD SCHOOL HIP HOP NOT THAT NEW AGE HIP HOP YEAHEH BOYEEEEE.HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA P.E IN EFFECT BOY THIS WILL NOT BE TELEAVIZED
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Reply #11 posted 03/12/06 3:13am

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cherylblues said:

U DON,T KNOW CKUCK D SO U CAN,T SAY THINGS ABOUT HIM THAT U DON,T KNOW I,M HERE 2 TELL U IT,S SOMETHING ELSE PUBLIC ENEMY RULES AND THAT,S OLD SCHOOL HIP HOP NOT THAT NEW AGE HIP HOP YEAHEH BOYEEEEE.HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA P.E IN EFFECT BOY THIS WILL NOT BE TELEAVIZED

okay eek I agree with that lol

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Reply #12 posted 03/12/06 7:57am

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I don't really dig hip-hop but I like this cd. Really always loved Paris because he comes.....CORRECT.
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