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Reply #30 posted 03/11/06 1:29am

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jn2 said:


Pathetic.


Sticks and stones may break my bones, but having my collection of "Invincible" copies called pathetic will never hurt me. razz


LOL I almost thought about doing that for 5 seconds when I saw them in the bargain bin for less than $2.00 each
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Reply #31 posted 03/11/06 5:42am

Novabreaker

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #986 in Music (See Top Sellers in Music)

Yay. #986, the King of Pop is back.
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Reply #32 posted 03/11/06 8:40am

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The deal is the album was #7000 something ..then Ace on American Idol sang Butterfies...a few hundrend people out of 30 million viewers bought Invinceable on Amazon causing the jump ...

the album with be back down where it started by the end of next week.

Same thing happened to George Michael when he sang Father Figure. The digital sales for the song were #40 on the Itunes Top 100 for a few days.
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Reply #33 posted 03/11/06 9:10am

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mynameisnotsusan said:

JasonStar said:



Sticks and stones may break my bones, but having my collection of "Invincible" copies called pathetic will never hurt me. razz


LOL I almost thought about doing that for 5 seconds when I saw them in the bargain bin for less than $2.00 each





eek Where exactly did you find it for $2...Some bastard stole my copy of Invincible a while back
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Reply #34 posted 03/11/06 9:20am

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Novabreaker said:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #986 in Music (See Top Sellers in Music)

Yay. #986, the King of Pop is back.


lol
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Reply #35 posted 03/11/06 10:26am

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i woudnt hate. some of you have some copies of some pretty crappy prince albums... LOL.
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Reply #36 posted 03/11/06 10:28am

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P2daP said:

i woudnt hate. some of you have some copies of some pretty crappy prince albums... LOL.
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granted. but the difference is we aren't psychotic enough to be monitoring their placement on amazon or posting threads when someone is dumb enough to purchase a copy of NEWS
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Reply #37 posted 03/11/06 4:51pm

DarlingDiana

OK, since this has not turned out how I planned. Let's turn it into an Invincible appreciation/critique/reviewing thread. Post your comments about Invincible, good or bad.
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Reply #38 posted 03/11/06 6:25pm

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ABeautifulOne said:

mynameisnotsusan said:



LOL I almost thought about doing that for 5 seconds when I saw them in the bargain bin for less than $2.00 each





eek Where exactly did you find it for $2...Some bastard stole my copy of Invincible a while back


That was a couple of years ago now but I wouldn't have to look far to find a cheap copy of Invincible. I'm in New Zealand so $2 New Zealand is like $1.30 US.
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Reply #39 posted 03/11/06 6:36pm

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DarlingDiana said:

newpower99 said:

The fact that you are proud of Michael Jackson being #986 on an internet store chart is sad .


If this is what its come to..it safe to say..its over.

Dude! The album is 5 years old!! Let's see how that compares to Michael Jackson's peers...

Close to a month after Invincible was released, Prince released The Rainbow Children, currently #22,908 on Amazon's sales chart. His last album distributed by a major label was Musicology, which is currently #6,626 on Amazon and it was only released 2 years ago. Invincible is miles ahead of both album.

A year before Invincible, Madonna released Music which is currenty #9,896 on Amazon. In 2003, 2 years after Invincible, she released American Life which is currently #8,496 on Amazon. Invincible is miles ahead of both album.

In the same year as Invincible, his sister Janet released "All For You" with is currently #38,336 on Amazon. Tens of thousands of places behind Invincible.

In the same year as Invincible, Mariah Carey released Glitter which is #35,949 on Amazon. A year after Invincible, she released Charmbraclet which is #31,544 on Amazon. Invincible is tens of thousands of places ahead of these albums.

If anyone is interested, this is Michael's placings on Amazon for all his albums...

Off The Wall [1990 re-issue] - #25,788
Thriller [1990 re-issue] - #10,758
Bad [1990 re-issue] - #14,163
Dangerous [Original] - #11,317
HIStory Book I - #5,930
Blood on the Dance Floor - #51,555
Off The Wall [Special Edition] - #2,690
Thriller [Special Edition] - #833
Bad [Special Edition] - #22,794
Dangerous [Remastered] - #22,813
Invincible - #1,503
Greatest Hits History Vol. I - #8,878
Number Ones - #4,591
The Ultimate Collection - #4,984
Essential Michael Jackson - #2,533
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Even for Amazon, those stats are pretty impressive. I admit it.
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Reply #40 posted 03/11/06 8:06pm

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Man remember this shit? Damn that was the cut!
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Reply #41 posted 03/11/06 9:22pm

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OK, since this has not turned out how I planned...


You had a plan? biggrin
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Reply #42 posted 03/11/06 10:44pm

Novabreaker

DarlingDiana said:

OK, since this has not turned out how I planned. Let's turn it into an Invincible appreciation/critique/reviewing thread. Post your comments about Invincible, good or bad.
[Edited 3/11/06 16:51pm]


Mostly indifferent.
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Reply #43 posted 03/11/06 11:57pm

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paisleypark4 said:



Man remember this shit? Damn that was the cut!


falloff
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Reply #44 posted 03/12/06 2:59am

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cborgman said:

P2daP said:

i woudnt hate. some of you have some copies of some pretty crappy prince albums... LOL.
[Edited 3/11/06 10:27am]


granted. but the difference is we aren't psychotic enough to be monitoring their placement on amazon or posting threads when someone is dumb enough to purchase a copy of NEWS

you would be if it actually could sell
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Reply #45 posted 03/12/06 4:42am

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JasonStar said:

Ellie said:


Totally untrue in my case. Although it does piss me off when the media blatantly lie about sales of certain albums just to make him look bad.


Co-Sign cool
The media makes it like Michael's big album was "Dangerous" back in 1991. However, the truth is "HIStory" (1995) and "Invincible" (2001) both charted Number 1 debuts, and "HIStory" remained there for awhile. I hate it when the media leaves those facts out, so I will SCREAM about them, because THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US (fans) so I will make the sales known!!!!! fit

Not really that because both sold less than Dangerous. The E! True Hollywood Story said that Scream failed to make the Top 10 when at the time it debuted at #5 and was the highest debut ever in Billboard Hot 100.

They always say that Invincible has sold 2m copies while quoting worldwide figures for other albums, when it has sold about 2.5m in the USA only. Then when they want to take Thriller's record away from him they start referring to The Eagles' USA certifications as if it represents the world, when in fact The Eagles GH isn't even in the Top 5 worldwide. Not sure if it's even Top 10.#

Then again, you also get stupid MJ fans quoting ridiculously inflated figures they've pulled out of their arses too for some reason disbelief
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Reply #46 posted 03/12/06 8:14am

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hellomoto said:

cborgman said:



granted. but the difference is we aren't psychotic enough to be monitoring their placement on amazon or posting threads when someone is dumb enough to purchase a copy of NEWS

you would be if it actually could sell


no, not really.

i advise people not to buy it.
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Reply #47 posted 03/12/06 8:29am

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you people frighten me...
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Reply #48 posted 03/12/06 9:40am

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paisleypark4 said:



Man remember this shit? Damn that was the cut!

Who made that? The folks at Moopy where I post are obsessed with "Yootha Joyce"
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Reply #49 posted 03/12/06 9:43am

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Ellie said:

paisleypark4 said:



Man remember this shit? Damn that was the cut!

Who made that? The folks at Moopy where I post are obsessed with "Yootha Joyce"


the org had extreme joyce mania a few years back. there were tons of photoshopped joyce
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Reply #50 posted 03/12/06 9:53am

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Ah, how similar. I must be subliminaly drawn to the same sorts of people online lol
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Reply #51 posted 03/12/06 9:57am

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Ellie said:

Ah, how similar. I must be subliminaly drawn to the same sorts of people online lol

wink

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Reply #52 posted 03/12/06 10:26am

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way too much time on your hands confused
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Reply #53 posted 03/12/06 10:31am

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Ellie said:

Who made that? The folks at Moopy where I post are obsessed with "Yootha Joyce"


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Reply #54 posted 03/12/06 10:57am

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The official best selling artists in the world ever list came out earlier this year and mj was no3 selling 400million, the beatles were no2 selling 450million and elvis was at 500million. Fact is, the 400million figure for mj was only post 1979 since Motown sales figures could not be determined, however, Motown have stated in the past that J5 sold 100million, this also does not cover mj's early solo albums like music and me and got to be there, ben and forever, michael, together those albums sold in excess of 10million. This puts MJ's figure at a cumulative 510million.

This does not take into consideration the fact that Michael is still selling shit loads of records every week and is outselling both elvis and the beatles put together week on week. He is also still alive and still recording and his katrina single could sell millions of copies. Add on to this the fact that the "we are the world" project which generated like 26million sales is not included in the total michael figures, i think its safe to say that Michael is not "over" not "pathetic" and that mj fans are not trying to justify his success to people who quite simply will not accept the facts! The facts as stated above speak for themselves!
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Reply #55 posted 03/12/06 11:20am

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FunkyBrotha said:

The official best selling artists in the world ever list came out earlier this year and mj was no3 selling 400million, the beatles were no2 selling 450million and elvis was at 500million. Fact is, the 400million figure for mj was only post 1979 since Motown sales figures could not be determined, however, Motown have stated in the past that J5 sold 100million, this also does not cover mj's early solo albums like music and me and got to be there, ben and forever, michael, together those albums sold in excess of 10million. This puts MJ's figure at a cumulative 510million.

This does not take into consideration the fact that Michael is still selling shit loads of records every week and is outselling both elvis and the beatles put together week on week. He is also still alive and still recording and his katrina single could sell millions of copies. Add on to this the fact that the "we are the world" project which generated like 26million sales is not included in the total michael figures, i think its safe to say that Michael is not "over" not "pathetic" and that mj fans are not trying to justify his success to people who quite simply will not accept the facts! The facts as stated above speak for themselves!


see, this is why i dont understand michael jackson fans... it's never about the music itself, only about the spectacle and the numbers.

some of ya'll are seriously scary
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Reply #56 posted 03/12/06 12:05pm

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Some of us are scary for latching onto lists like that and ignoring it when they're proven to be fakes.
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Reply #57 posted 03/12/06 11:58pm

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Michael Jackson is not 3rd best selling. He's lower than that. He's definately in the top 10 worldwide, but not #3. Elvis, The Beatles, Madonna, Nana Mouskouri have all outsold him. He's only sold 200 million worldwide, including Motown.
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Reply #58 posted 03/13/06 1:56am

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cborgman said:

FunkyBrotha said:

The official best selling artists in the world ever list came out earlier this year and mj was no3 selling 400million, the beatles were no2 selling 450million and elvis was at 500million. Fact is, the 400million figure for mj was only post 1979 since Motown sales figures could not be determined, however, Motown have stated in the past that J5 sold 100million, this also does not cover mj's early solo albums like music and me and got to be there, ben and forever, michael, together those albums sold in excess of 10million. This puts MJ's figure at a cumulative 510million.

This does not take into consideration the fact that Michael is still selling shit loads of records every week and is outselling both elvis and the beatles put together week on week. He is also still alive and still recording and his katrina single could sell millions of copies. Add on to this the fact that the "we are the world" project which generated like 26million sales is not included in the total michael figures, i think its safe to say that Michael is not "over" not "pathetic" and that mj fans are not trying to justify his success to people who quite simply will not accept the facts! The facts as stated above speak for themselves!


see, this is why i dont understand michael jackson fans... it's never about the music itself, only about the spectacle and the numbers.

some of ya'll are seriously scary



he only realses an album every 5 years. shoot, you gota talk about something! lol.
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Reply #59 posted 03/13/06 2:00am

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P2daP said:

cborgman said:



see, this is why i dont understand michael jackson fans... it's never about the music itself, only about the spectacle and the numbers.

some of ya'll are seriously scary



he only realses an album every 5 years. shoot, you gota talk about something! lol.

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