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Reply #90 posted 03/08/06 7:51pm

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cool All you MJ fanatics need to stop making like you do not think that Michael Jackson is one whacky freak. Jermaine is an ass kisser & always will be when it comes to making money. He probably was cut off. Now, he threatens to put out a tell all book. None of this is not surprising to me at all. I do believe 95% of what he said is true.
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Reply #91 posted 03/08/06 10:11pm

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Could this be "Word to the Bad pt 2"?? Remember Jermaine betrayed his brother in the early 90's with this single? The words went something like this...Once you were made...you changed your shade...was your color wrong? Its a known fact...you were born black..now youre too far gone. wink
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Reply #92 posted 03/09/06 3:50am

squiddyren

I don't have a solid opinion yet on what Jermaine supposedly said on tape, but why the hell is it with MJ fams that every single time there's negative news about him, it's automatically BS, and every time there's positive news, it's automatically true? disbelief They need to stop living in this dream-world where everything is hunky-dory with their idol and nothing could POSSIBLY go wrong.
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Reply #93 posted 03/09/06 5:39am

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squiddyren said:

I don't have a solid opinion yet on what Jermaine supposedly said on tape, but why the hell is it with MJ fams that every single time there's negative news about him, it's automatically BS, and every time there's positive news, it's automatically true? disbelief They need to stop living in this dream-world where everything is hunky-dory with their idol and nothing could POSSIBLY go wrong.


Does Rebbie, Jackie, Marlon, Tito, and Randy defends Michael when negative news is made about him?
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Reply #94 posted 03/09/06 9:36am

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
March 7, 2006

MR. JOSEPH JACKON RELEASES STATEMENT
THROUGH FAMILY SPOKESPERSON ANGEL HOWANSKY



Los Angeles____ Family Patriarch of the Jackson Family releases the following statement:

"Our family has been manipulated and taken advantage of for a very long time and its time that this destructive maligning of our character stop."


The Jackson Family will no longer stand still and be a punching bag for the press to hit below the belt!

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the many fans around the world for their love and support of my family. Your loyalty does not go unnoticed and is appreciated.

Contact:
Angel Howanksy Family Spokesperson
Gail Felix Assistant
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Reply #95 posted 03/09/06 9:38am

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Stacy Brown has dealt with recently

The Jackson Juror and the Accuser's Mother (September 12, 2005)
by Bill Bickel

Last month, former Jackson jurors Ray Hultman and Eleanor Cook told MSNBC that they believed Jackson was guilty, were pressured into changing their votes by the jury foreman who threatened to remove them from the jury, and had contracted to co-author a book about the trial (The Deliberator) for SilverCreek Entertainment.

Last Wednesday (September 7), Hultman filed a lawsuit asking to be removed from the contract after discovering that the book proposal contained material plagiarized from Vanity Fair magazine.

Because this plagiarism damaged his reputation, ruined his change to write a book and caused him mental and emotional stress, Hultman also wants monetary damages from SilverCreek, from his agent Bill Gladstone, and from Stacy Brown, the "co-author" who would have been doing the actual writing and who allegedly plagiarized the material -- despite the fact that Brown has never met Hultman, never agreed to be part of the project, and in fact had turned it down after SilverCreek approached him: "I had no intention of writing this nor did I believe what was in the book."

Also last week (September 6), the mother of the boy who accused Jackson of abusing him pleaded not guilty to defrauding the welfare system of almost $18,800 (one count of aid by misrepresentation and four counts of perjury by false application for aid, felonies that could lead to a total of 5 years in prison).

During Jackson's trial, she refused to discuss her finances claiming her right against self-incrimination. Prosecutors will, however, be able to use evidence presented by Jackson's defense attorneys that she received a $150,000 settlement from J.C. Penny's at the same time she was receiving welfare payments and claiming to be indigent.

An October 28 hearing has been scheduled to determine whether there is enough evidence to hold her over for trial.

http://crime.allinfoabout...91205.html
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Reply #96 posted 03/09/06 9:58am

NightLight

squiddyren said:

I don't have a solid opinion yet on what Jermaine supposedly said on tape, but why the hell is it with MJ fams that every single time there's negative news about him, it's automatically BS, and every time there's positive news, it's automatically true? disbelief They need to stop living in this dream-world where everything is hunky-dory with their idol and nothing could POSSIBLY go wrong.



Speaking for myself only, I really can't get into all of this nonsense because there are way too many people speaking for Michael, against Michael, about Michael and everyone else is speaking except for Michael Jackson. Everyday there's someone new MJ fans have to hate, and it's starting to get ridiculous, now it's Jermaine. I for one will not hate somebody because of stupid little things like this, if he said it, I could really give a shit less, he would just be another person added to "the list" a swift growing list that I'm not going to be apart of.

I can say one thing though, It seems to me like everyone is "after" Michael Jackson, you hear the fans say it all the time and I'm finally starting to belive it. And as a fan, what am I supposed to do with this conclusion I'm coming to? Write an angry letter to all these people?


Hell no!

I'm gonna drowned myself in music (perferably Jackie Wilson) and wait for all this shit to be over, then see if I want to participate in the next load of crap Michael has to face...

Fuck all this shit, Michael Jackson forever!!!
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Reply #97 posted 03/09/06 10:22am

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So Jermaine's finally saying what most people with a fully functioning brain have known for years. Big deal.
But no one in the Jackson family has any credibility left, with the exception of Tito, maybe, so it's just more debris for the train wreck known as The Jacksons.
I must say, though, that Jermaine has graduated with flying colors from the "Michael Jackson Institute of Hype and Bullshit". The bullshit, by the way, are his denials that he ever said those things about MJ. Didn't realize the tape was rolling, did ya buddy? lol
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Reply #98 posted 03/09/06 10:28am

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I like how Marlon is low profile. He shows up every now and then but for the most part he doesn't get caught up in all this crap.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #99 posted 03/09/06 10:49am

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Oh Brother... disbelief

When opportunity knocks, Jermaine is always there to answer the door. Remember "Word to the Badd"?

The truth is, Jermaine is washed out and up - last hit he had was "Do What You Do"... some twenty years ago. The only time he's in the limelight is when something's going on with Michael.

I read the bio from his ex-wife, who painted a very jealous picture of Jermaine in regards to Michael.

To back someone in court merely because he wanted to protect him from killing himself is ridiculous! If I saw any of my brothers sitting inappropriately on a bed with my nephews, I'd so fucking go off on them regardless of their position in the family! rolleyes

Label this as fiction and put it next to A Million Little Pieces... evillol
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

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Reply #100 posted 03/09/06 10:57am

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June7 said:

If I saw any of my brothers sitting inappropriately on a bed with my nephews, I'd so fucking go off on them regardless of their position in the family! rolleyes

Label this as fiction and put it next to A Million Little Pieces... evillol


yea, Stacy mentioned that before, Tito's kids were grown 19/20 around that time. that shit's laughable.
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Reply #101 posted 03/09/06 11:00am

dirtyman2005

you can't assume its true or not true.


if you believe this garbage then obviously people need help

serious help

the fact that stacy brown, a known MJ hater makes this crap up and everyone believes it serves to solidify the fact that MJ should stay in Bahrain and fuck the usa

after all, USA screwed MJ,

so screw USA MJ, goon on ya
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Reply #102 posted 03/09/06 11:13am

dag

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lilgish said:

dag said:


Not to me. Roger´s an idiot able to write one day one thing, and write something totally opposite the next day. No matter what you all may think of Michael, at least he doesn´t change his "versions" of things like the rest of the people do. I wouldn´t believe anything from that alleged jermaine´s book (IF it trully was written and meant to be released), because what am I to think of someone acting totally supportive one day and shopping dirty laundry the next.


Daq, the quotes Roger has are not from the alleged 2003 notes that Stacy wrote or more likely made up. Jermaine had been shopping his book prioir to 2003, before the allegations. Jermiane has said or alluded to certainm things that coincide with those notes. The Word To the Badd song being just one example. I'm able to discern Stacy's made up or exaggerated tales, but Jermaine was definately shopping a book. These guys need to stop writing books and doing interviews and put all this drama into some music. Last Time I checked Latoya was the last one to come out with an album. eek

YOu know what´s funny, guys? I am considered to be one of MJ major fanatics over here, but there are a lot of people who know more than I do. lol
I´ve heard about WOrd To the Badd song, but I´ve never heard the actual song or anything about the previous allegations that Jermaine was supposed to make in the past, that´s why I can´t say how serious or credible they were. But from the recent years over the trial as I have followed it, he "seemed" to be the most supportive appearing several times on Larry King Live supporting Michael etc. that´s why it would shock me, that someone like HIM would turn out like that. IF that Jermaine story would be true, it would make HIM look bad in my eyes, NOT Michael.
I remember him talking about some book on Larry King live, but I remember him saying that it was supposed to be positive, with no scandals in it back than so I don´t know.

As for La Toya´s past accusations....She admitted she was forced to it by her ex and I think her ex-husband even confirmed it once, hasn´t he?

I could not agree more. It seems Michael's family is mainly good at taking advantage of him, like lots of the people around him.
If only Michael could get a few caring fans on his "team." I know there are some people who would have his best interests at heart and want to see him be the music superstar he was even 15 years ago (Dangerous Era Pre 93 B.S.) However, it seems like the only people Michael ends up with around him are all greeedy. Even his own family seem like at times they think about themselves. Jermaine seems like he just will take the spotlight anyway he can get it. He was on CNN during the trial almost daily giving the "blow by blow." I'm personally sick of him a little these days. Chris Rock had Jermaine pegged right.

that would be cool! wink I´d be definately auditioning. biggrin
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #103 posted 03/09/06 11:28am

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origmnd said:

Now they say AUDIO exists of Jermaine sayin this stuff.


word? oo0o0 now if THATS the case jermaine got some serious explaining to do
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Reply #104 posted 03/09/06 11:43am

squiddyren

Krytonite said:

squiddyren said:

I don't have a solid opinion yet on what Jermaine supposedly said on tape, but why the hell is it with MJ fams that every single time there's negative news about him, it's automatically BS, and every time there's positive news, it's automatically true? disbelief They need to stop living in this dream-world where everything is hunky-dory with their idol and nothing could POSSIBLY go wrong.


Does Rebbie, Jackie, Marlon, Tito, and Randy defends Michael when negative news is made about him?


Fams= term for fanatics. neutral
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Reply #105 posted 03/09/06 2:47pm

kdj997

I was about to dismiss it as BS due to that Stacy guy not being credible but if there's audio of Jermaine making those comments, more likely than not he was speaking with some truth. It might turn in to an R. Kelly think were even though it's clearly his voice people are still gonna deny it's him.

If it's true, Joseph is sicker then Mike. His own daughters. Sickening. The comment about Mike doing something to any of those grown ass men from 3t is ridiculous...because, um, well.... they're grown ass men!!!!!


I still can't believe MJ fans refuse nto admit he dyed his skin. Man, sheep comes to mind. It just seems so obvious to me but maybe I'm out of line and if I am I apologize.
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Reply #106 posted 03/09/06 2:55pm

Number23

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And there it is.

Jermaine denies all allegations.

Michael Jackson is doing 300 pushups a day.

And the Mideast is a peaceful place.

Thanks, Jermaine!

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Reply #107 posted 03/09/06 2:57pm

dewalliz

I am interesting to hear more about this tape.
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Reply #108 posted 03/09/06 6:40pm

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Marrk said:

Jermaine is a pathological liar

So what does that make Michael?

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Reply #109 posted 03/10/06 11:17am

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http://www.foxnews.com/st...06,00.html

Jacko Back in California as Neverland Closes
Thursday, March 09, 2006
By Roger Friedman

Jacko Backo as Neverland Closes

Attention creditors and the state of California: Even as his Neverland ranch has been shut down today by authorities, Michael Jackson is back home in Encino after a nine month self-imposed exile.

Sources tell me exclusively that Jackson has been back at his family home in Encino for a day or so. He did not return to Neverland because he owes the staff back pay from Dec. 23, 2005.

This column has been the first and only to chronicle the lack of pay and insurance at Neverland. Reports today that California authorities finally figured out that there was no insurance at Neverland are pretty amusing. We've told you repeatedly for weeks that Neverland was about shut its doors. Wire reports today say that 30 employees have filed official complaints with the state labor authorities.

Readers of this column knew that weeks ago.

Some good news, though: Jackson returns to the family home in Encino with his mortgage payments up to date. Sources tell me sister Janet Jackson brought his $2.2 million loan current on February 10. The mortgage holder is relieved they don't have to foreclose. Janet Jackson also brought up to date Jackson's overdue payments on storage facilities in Buellton, Calif.

But Michael Jackson is in big, big trouble now. The state fined him $69,000, or $1,000 per employee, for allowing his insurance to lapse. He's also been levied $100,000 in fines for not paying the employees $306,000. That comes to $475,000, which Jackson does not have.

I do feel a little like Rodney Dangerfield here. For weeks I've told you in this space that Jackson was heading for a colossal financial disaster. Well, it's here, and so is he. Jackson's arrival in Encino signals a total break with Prince Abdullah of Bahrain who was underwriting the singer's extravagant lifestyle since last year. At the same time, Jackson faces imminent foreclosure on $270 million of loans guaranteed by his 50 percent ownership in Sony/ATV Music Publishing, aka the Beatles catalog.

More tomorrow, including the news that Jackson's year 2005 civil attorney, Brent Ayscough, has filed a breach of contract suit against the singer in Torrance, Calif., as of Feb. 21, 2006. And that's not all. Tonight, even as you read this, Jackson's employees who are still talking to him are headed to the Encino house for a meeting.

Our flies are on the walls.

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Reply #110 posted 03/10/06 11:29am

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Man....ya'll really HATE Michael huh? eek

Well, he has people, like me, who pray for him everyday and loves him for the wonderful man he is.

As Naz says....

'You can hate me now.....but I wont stop now....Cause I cant stop now.....You can hate me NOW..."

cool
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Reply #111 posted 03/10/06 12:58pm

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carlcranshaw said:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,187406,00.html

Jacko Back in California as Neverland Closes
Thursday, March 09, 2006
By Roger Friedman

Jacko Backo as Neverland Closes

Attention creditors and the state of California: Even as his Neverland ranch has been shut down today by authorities, Michael Jackson is back home in Encino after a nine month self-imposed exile.

Sources tell me exclusively that Jackson has been back at his family home in Encino for a day or so. He did not return to Neverland because he owes the staff back pay from Dec. 23, 2005.

This column has been the first and only to chronicle the lack of pay and insurance at Neverland. Reports today that California authorities finally figured out that there was no insurance at Neverland are pretty amusing. We've told you repeatedly for weeks that Neverland was about shut its doors. Wire reports today say that 30 employees have filed official complaints with the state labor authorities.

Readers of this column knew that weeks ago.

Some good news, though: Jackson returns to the family home in Encino with his mortgage payments up to date. Sources tell me sister Janet Jackson brought his $2.2 million loan current on February 10. The mortgage holder is relieved they don't have to foreclose. Janet Jackson also brought up to date Jackson's overdue payments on storage facilities in Buellton, Calif.

But Michael Jackson is in big, big trouble now. The state fined him $69,000, or $1,000 per employee, for allowing his insurance to lapse. He's also been levied $100,000 in fines for not paying the employees $306,000. That comes to $475,000, which Jackson does not have.

I do feel a little like Rodney Dangerfield here. For weeks I've told you in this space that Jackson was heading for a colossal financial disaster. Well, it's here, and so is he. Jackson's arrival in Encino signals a total break with Prince Abdullah of Bahrain who was underwriting the singer's extravagant lifestyle since last year. At the same time, Jackson faces imminent foreclosure on $270 million of loans guaranteed by his 50 percent ownership in Sony/ATV Music Publishing, aka the Beatles catalog.

More tomorrow, including the news that Jackson's year 2005 civil attorney, Brent Ayscough, has filed a breach of contract suit against the singer in Torrance, Calif., as of Feb. 21, 2006. And that's not all. Tonight, even as you read this, Jackson's employees who are still talking to him are headed to the Encino house for a meeting.

Our flies are on the walls.



whoa
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Reply #112 posted 03/10/06 3:11pm

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jamgirl said:

Man....ya'll really HATE Michael huh? eek

Well, he has people, like me, who pray for him everyday and loves him for the wonderful man he is.

As Naz says....

'You can hate me now.....but I wont stop now....Cause I cant stop now.....You can hate me NOW..."

cool


To be honest, I don't think anyone HATES Michael, but it's people who blind themselves to the fact that Michael needs help, blind themselves that there is something wrong in Neverland, that makes the situation worse.

Michael needs to get his financial house in order. That's one. Like many other celebrities, particularly African-American celebrities, for one reason or another, they can make millions of dollars and lose it all. That's not calling him a bad guy.

Second, he has family issues in his past that by his own admission, would affect ANYbody, especially a five year old lead singer of an international superstar band.

Third, Michael has some issues about himself that he needs to resolve. Among them, his phobia about his nose being too big, about his skin being too dark, and about not being in control.

Fourth, this is where some people find that Michael may be a bad guy. He has many unresolved sexual issues. First, is he straight or gay? Second, can he accept whatever his sexuality is? Third, most insidiously, does he have an attraction to young boys?

Only Michael knows the real answers to these questions, but just because he was once the biggest star in the world, just because he sings beautifully, and dances well, does not mean that he is flawless.

He may be surrounded by thieves, backstabbers, liars, and criminals, but that doesn't absolve him from any responsibility for his own actions.

At the end of the day, only Michael can do Michael.
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Reply #113 posted 03/11/06 3:55am

Number23

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At the end of the day, only Michael can do Michael.


Did he have his ribs taken out too?
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Reply #114 posted 03/11/06 5:11am

Ottensen

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lilgish said:



well, I retract some of my statements, cause those quotes sound all too real. Even though some of Stacy Brown's more scandalous daily news points were "suprisingly" missing from the notes roger had. What a mess.

Not to me. Roger´s an idiot able to write one day one thing, and write something totally opposite the next day. No matter what you all may think of Michael, at least he doesn´t change his "versions" of things like the rest of the people do. I wouldn´t believe anything from that alleged jermaine´s book (IF it trully was written and meant to be released), because what am I to think of someone acting totally supportive one day and shopping dirty laundry the next.



Sometimes people do what they have to do when they have no dough, and end up being kept on a short leash, not wanting to bite the hand that feeds them, I guess...
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Reply #115 posted 03/11/06 5:14am

Ottensen

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Alasseon said:

What did Chris Rock say?


Well this is from his 2004 comedy special, "Never Scared."
After he lit into Michael and mentioned how he was, "turning in his glove," he turned his attention to Jermaine, and said this:

"Michael's crazy, Janet's lost her mind and now I gotta see Jermaine every week for the blow by blow. I thought I was done with Jermaine. I got the, "Do What You Done When You Did What To Me" album. I thought I was done with Jermaine. Jermaine looks crazier than Michael. What the fuck is up with Jermaine?.."

He then turned to dissing Jermaine's apperance, calling him "greasy." My point was though, is that I'm sick of seeing Jermaine on TV every time I turn around on TV. It is like when something happens in Michael's world, they call Jermaine. Whom is normally there to push some "future project" that probably won't materialize. I'd rather see them have J. Randy Taraborrelli. At least his comments are insightful and educated, and not just, "Michael is doing some push ups, and getting ready." What? Is Michael going to become a professional boxer? Is he planning to fight Mike Tyson? Are they gonna have him be on Dancing With The Stars? What the fuck? Seriously. Michael please don't go changing yourself into something "new." You are one of a kind, just make some more great music. The studio misses you...and most of all your fans do! sad



... I swear I'm not trying to be funny, but it almost sounds like as a fan, you really take all of this kind of personally, huh? neutral
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Reply #116 posted 03/11/06 8:02pm

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brownsugar said:

CuntOMatic said:

lol

Shamon!


falloff


fallofffallofffalloff
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Reply #117 posted 03/12/06 8:20am

prettymansson

Alasseon said:

jamgirl said:

Man....ya'll really HATE Michael huh? eek

Well, he has people, like me, who pray for him everyday and loves him for the wonderful man he is.

As Naz says....

'You can hate me now.....but I wont stop now....Cause I cant stop now.....You can hate me NOW..."

cool


To be honest, I don't think anyone HATES Michael, but it's people who blind themselves to the fact that Michael needs help, blind themselves that there is something wrong in Neverland, that makes the situation worse.

Michael needs to get his financial house in order. That's one. Like many other celebrities, particularly African-American celebrities, for one reason or another, they can make millions of dollars and lose it all. That's not calling him a bad guy.

Second, he has family issues in his past that by his own admission, would affect ANYbody, especially a five year old lead singer of an international superstar band.

Third, Michael has some issues about himself that he needs to resolve. Among them, his phobia about his nose being too big, about his skin being too dark, and about not being in control.

Fourth, this is where some people find that Michael may be a bad guy. He has many unresolved sexual issues. First, is he straight or gay? Second, can he accept whatever his sexuality is? Third, most insidiously, does he have an attraction to young boys?

Only Michael knows the real answers to these questions, but just because he was once the biggest star in the world, just because he sings beautifully, and dances well, does not mean that he is flawless.

He may be surrounded by thieves, backstabbers, liars, and criminals, but that doesn't absolve him from any responsibility for his own actions.

At the end of the day, only Michael can do Michael.



Very well said !!!!! wink
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Reply #118 posted 03/12/06 12:39pm

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JasonStar said:


Chris Rock had Jermaine pegged right. lol


What did Chris say?
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Reply #119 posted 03/12/06 12:40pm

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Nevermind, I should have read further.
thanks
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