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PrintableCinisterCee said: But do you miss saxophone like "We Belong To The City" by Glenn Frey? I don't really.
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JANFAN4L said: OK, I was listening to Miami Sound Machine's "Eyes of Innocence" album a while ago and was enjoying all of the great horns in tunes like "Dr. Beat" and "I Need A Man" and it got my mind thinking about 2000-now. I noticed that a lot of popular music nowadays features little to no horn instruments at all. I'm not talking about unoriginal samples, but ACTUAL, REAL horn instruments and solos by real musicians.
This facet is SEVERELY lacking in today's music and it disturbs me. The only real pop song I can think of that uses horns and was a recent hit was Beyoncé's "Crazy In Love," but that was nearly three years ago. And it doesn't count because they weren't real horns done for the track, just some sample of a Chi-Lites tune from back in the day ripped off by a new jack hip hop producer. Can you name any modern pop songs nowadays that use horns? What do you think led to the refusal of artists and producers nowadays to incorporate or infuse horns in their melodies? And what the h*ll happpened to sax solos?! Discuss. THIS is one reason worth mentioning: 
When you get an chance to play this keyboard synth/sampler workstations, you wouldn't need a live horn section anymore! In general, new sounds are created with synths more often than guitars or horns. And lets not forget about the growing population of people involve in computer music production as we speak: http://www.kvraudio.com | |
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RECORDED RECENTLY !!!!!
 http://music.aol.com/vide...aultID=515
Click on "Lovely People" first , then on "I Like The Way You Move" and the rest ... _____ Brass from the past : 
( Don Myrick , Louis Satterfield , Michael Harris and Rahmlee Michael Davis ) The key to that the Phenix horns sounded so sharp and staccato , was that Maurice White used and recorded their sound as percussion . No wonder that when he introduced the section to the audience with live-concerts , he called them "power".    
( Kim Hutchcroft , Larry Williams and Jerry Hey ) They were hired a zillion times for their skills , writing and horn-arrangements . One of their tightest riffs i've heard was at the intro of a hip-hop re-make from Weather Report's "Birdland" . recorded on "Back On The Block" from Quincy Jones . . . . [Edited 3/2/06 4:20am] | |
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If some of y'all here taped any or all the recent  appearances @ the Jay Leno Show , then check the one where Sheila E is playing along with his Royal's tight jam . They do a track from the "One Nite Alone"-Tour . Maceo Parker , Eric Leeds and a trombone-player blowing their @$$ off like ya haven't heard yet .
_____ P-Funk horns : 
. . . [Edited 3/2/06 4:19am] | |
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What about that car-alarm horn sample in Jennifer Lopez's 'Get Right'?  I'm the first mammal to wear pants. | |
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sosgemini said: CinisterCee said: But do you miss saxophone like "We Belong To The City" by Glenn Frey? I don't really.
good point. sax solo's in the middle of songs scream 80's. But i like 'em. Prefer a guitar solo though most the time. | |
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Harlepolis said: Horns Cost money, require time(to learn) and reharsels(since most horn playas nowadays will embarrass themselves if they improvised).
Labels already know how to make a fat bouncing check without them, so they don't bother with demanding their presence. Exactly! And remember that the people within a horn section are humans too. And they have to eat & drink like the rest of us. And it cost money to feed people!!!  | |
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BTW, life without a brass section is going to get worse:
This is the Korg Oasys. A $10,000 keyboard production station powerful enough to replace horns/brass, organs, pianos, synths, drums, percussions, samplers, drum machines, electric pianos, harps,.....hell, the whole damn band forever!!! It also works as a self-contained studio where you can plug-in the mic to do vocals. And a built-in DVD-RW burner to record your masters! | |
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TonyVanDam said: JANFAN4L said: OK, I was listening to Miami Sound Machine's "Eyes of Innocence" album a while ago and was enjoying all of the great horns in tunes like "Dr. Beat" and "I Need A Man" and it got my mind thinking about 2000-now. I noticed that a lot of popular music nowadays features little to no horn instruments at all. I'm not talking about unoriginal samples, but ACTUAL, REAL horn instruments and solos by real musicians.
This facet is SEVERELY lacking in today's music and it disturbs me. The only real pop song I can think of that uses horns and was a recent hit was Beyoncé's "Crazy In Love," but that was nearly three years ago. And it doesn't count because they weren't real horns done for the track, just some sample of a Chi-Lites tune from back in the day ripped off by a new jack hip hop producer. Can you name any modern pop songs nowadays that use horns? What do you think led to the refusal of artists and producers nowadays to incorporate or infuse horns in their melodies? And what the h*ll happpened to sax solos?! Discuss. THIS is one reason worth mentioning:
When you get an chance to play this keyboard synth/sampler workstations, you wouldn't need a live horn section anymore! In general, new sounds are created with synths more often than guitars or horns. And lets not forget about the growing population of people involve in computer music production as we speak: http://www.kvraudio.com OK, I've been waiting to use this word in a sentence... I'm guessing the whole electronic music revolution led to the "SYNTHESIZATION" of modern popular music. Up and coming artists cutting demos will find actual horns to be too much of an expense, and once they break through, they find that music listeners and creators don't care whether they use them or not. They can do without and that they do! . [Edited 3/1/06 15:30pm] | |
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JANFAN4L said: TonyVanDam said: THIS is one reason worth mentioning:
When you get an chance to play this keyboard synth/sampler workstations, you wouldn't need a live horn section anymore! In general, new sounds are created with synths more often than guitars or horns. And lets not forget about the growing population of people involve in computer music production as we speak: http://www.kvraudio.com OK, I've been waiting to use this word in a sentence... I'm guessing the whole electronic music revolution led to the "SYNTHESIZATION" of modern popular music. Up and coming artists cutting demos will find actual horns to be too much of an expense, and once they break through, they find that music listeners and creators don't care whether they use them or not. They can do without and that they do! . [Edited 3/1/06 15:30pm] Correct!: [Edited 3/1/06 15:42pm] | |
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I think ricky martins living la vie da loca has no real instruments in it? Pretty amazing stuff. I think desmond child did it all. | |
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People sold out jazz years ago. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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thesexofit said: I think ricky martins living la vie da loca has no real instruments in it? Pretty amazing stuff. I think desmond child did it all.
Color me crazy, but I thought "She Bangs" was quite nice, musically. | |
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To me, synths aren't supposed to sound natural and replace instruments. | |
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JANFAN4L said: thesexofit said: I think ricky martins living la vie da loca has no real instruments in it? Pretty amazing stuff. I think desmond child did it all.
Color me crazy, but I thought "She Bangs" was quite nice, musically. And then we had to get William Hung in on it.  | |
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Axchi696 said: What about that car-alarm horn sample in Jennifer Lopez's 'Get Right'?
lol | |
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CinisterCee said: To me, synths aren't supposed to sound natural and replace instruments.
THAT'S the same thing Kraftwerk would say!  | |
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Bjork, oh so quiet. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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Wasn't Prince at the vanguard of this trend back when he first broke?
Yea I know he's added horns many times. test | |
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PFunkjazz said: Wasn't Prince at the vanguard of this trend back when he first broke?
Yea I know he's added horns many times. Check my post above.
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theVelvetRoper said: JANFAN4L said: Color me crazy, but I thought "She Bangs" was quite nice, musically. And then we had to get William Hung in on it.  | |
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Harlepolis said: Horns Cost money, require time(to learn) and reharsels(since most horn playas nowadays will embarrass themselves if they improvised).
Labels already know how to make a fat bouncing check without them, so they don't bother with demanding their presence. Anyway, if it is ONLY the lack of horn sections we should worry about, then we should be lucky but we suffer from the lack of COMPLETE musicianship & subtance. Nothing is personal anymore! Yep, damn shame ain't it? Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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