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Beastie Boys and Hip-Hop Truth You folks who think that caucasians in Hip-Hop or Rap are something strange that doesnt belong,...just dont really know. You have to have lived in New York when Hip-Hop culture was coming up, to know that Hip-Hop was MULTICULTURAL. It wasnt about race,...it was about being a part of the culture itself. It was about being from the New York ghettos. And In the 70's and 80's there were plenty of ghettos, black, latino and white in NYC. It was an underground culture of the city itself. Hip-Hop was NEVER exclusively "Black culture". For instance,..alot of the early Hip-Hop style was taken straight from Italian Americans,...who had their own urban culture and style,.. wearing addidas athletic suits and Kangol hats,..and slingin words like, "crew" and "yo". But when has Hip-Hop EVER acknowledged that??? Or what about the first hip hop grafitti tagger,..who was a Greek kid,...TAKI 187,..in the early 70's. Sure African Americans and Puerto Ricans were the majority in Hip-Hop,..but there were ALOT of Caucasians and others too. And everybody contributed. If you were down with the culture and you expressed yourself through it,...then it didnt matter what race you were. It wasnt until the emergence of Afrocentric Rap in Hip-Hop, during the late 80's that the whole thing started to break down and get twisted up into race. And that started people getting all these flat out wrong ideas about the truth of what is Hip-Hop and what is Black culture. To the point where now,...Hip-Hop is no longer Hip-Hop any more. Sure the rap music element still thrives and continues. But the rest?? What it is now,..is a messed up version of "La Vida Loca". La Vida Loca is the urban underground culture of Mexican Americans in the Southwest and California. They had their own Hip-Hop type culture going since the 1940's. Now African Americans in the rap world and many others have taken La Vida Loca with it's lowriders and handsigns and baggy clothes and bandannas and tatoo styles and are now calling it Hip Hop,...or Bloods and Crips. Totally ripping off the Chicanos. But nobody will even say a word about why Africans American youths are trying to act like Chicanos. | |
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I HATE RAP...HIP HOP...THUGS...CRIMINALS...THE CULTURE...THE CLOTHES...AND MOST OF ALL NI%#AS Of EVERY COLOR...(and im a black man born and raised in nyc) !!! | |
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prettymansson said: I HATE RAP...HIP HOP...THUGS...CRIMINALS...THE CULTURE...THE CLOTHES...AND MOST OF ALL NI%#AS Of EVERY COLOR...(and im a black man born and raised in nyc) !!!
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sexyfunkystrange said: You folks who think that caucasians in Hip-Hop or Rap are something strange that doesnt belong,...just dont really know. You have to have lived in New York when Hip-Hop culture was coming up, to know that Hip-Hop was MULTICULTURAL. It wasnt about race,...it was about being a part of the culture itself. It was about being from the New York ghettos. And In the 70's and 80's there were plenty of ghettos, black, latino and white in NYC. It was an underground culture of the city itself. Hip-Hop was NEVER exclusively "Black culture". For instance,..alot of the early Hip-Hop style was taken straight from Italian Americans,...who had their own urban culture and style,.. wearing addidas athletic suits and Kangol hats,..and slingin words like, "crew" and "yo". But when has Hip-Hop EVER acknowledged that??? Or what about the first hip hop grafitti tagger,..who was a Greek kid,...TAKI 187,..in the early 70's. Sure African Americans and Puerto Ricans were the majority in Hip-Hop,..but there were ALOT of Caucasians and others too. And everybody contributed. If you were down with the culture and you expressed yourself through it,...then it didnt matter what race you were. It wasnt until the emergence of Afrocentric Rap in Hip-Hop, during the late 80's that the whole thing started to break down and get twisted up into race. And that started people getting all these flat out wrong ideas about the truth of what is Hip-Hop and what is Black culture. To the point where now,...Hip-Hop is no longer Hip-Hop any more. Sure the rap music element still thrives and continues. But the rest?? What it is now,..is a messed up version of "La Vida Loca". La Vida Loca is the urban underground culture of Mexican Americans in the Southwest and California. They had their own Hip-Hop type culture going since the 1940's. Now African Americans in the rap world and many others have taken La Vida Loca with it's lowriders and handsigns and baggy clothes and bandannas and tatoo styles and are now calling it Hip Hop,...or Bloods and Crips. Totally ripping off the Chicanos. But nobody will even say a word about why Africans American youths are trying to act like Chicanos. purple princess | |
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Say what you want, the Beastoe Boys started out as a mock rap group - a novelty act - that caught on. They weren't ever into hip hop, they were a punk group trying to find ANY WAY to break into the industry, so don't act like the Beasties were truly "down." They didn't get serious about the craft of rap until they realized they can make cheese off of it. "Free yo mind and yo ass will follow" - George Clinton | |
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sexyfunkystrange said: You folks who think that caucasians in Hip-Hop or Rap are something strange that doesnt belong,...just dont really know. You have to have lived in New York when Hip-Hop culture was coming up, to know that Hip-Hop was MULTICULTURAL. It wasnt about race,...it was about being a part of the culture itself. It was about being from the New York ghettos. And In the 70's and 80's there were plenty of ghettos, black, latino and white in NYC. It was an underground culture of the city itself. Hip-Hop was NEVER exclusively "Black culture". For instance,..alot of the early Hip-Hop style was taken straight from Italian Americans,...who had their own urban culture and style,.. wearing addidas athletic suits and Kangol hats,..and slingin words like, "crew" and "yo". But when has Hip-Hop EVER acknowledged that??? Or what about the first hip hop grafitti tagger,..who was a Greek kid,...TAKI 187,..in the early 70's. Sure African Americans and Puerto Ricans were the majority in Hip-Hop,..but there were ALOT of Caucasians and others too. And everybody contributed. If you were down with the culture and you expressed yourself through it,...then it didnt matter what race you were. It wasnt until the emergence of Afrocentric Rap in Hip-Hop, during the late 80's that the whole thing started to break down and get twisted up into race. And that started people getting all these flat out wrong ideas about the truth of what is Hip-Hop and what is Black culture. To the point where now,...Hip-Hop is no longer Hip-Hop any more. Sure the rap music element still thrives and continues. But the rest?? What it is now,..is a messed up version of "La Vida Loca". La Vida Loca is the urban underground culture of Mexican Americans in the Southwest and California. They had their own Hip-Hop type culture going since the 1940's. Now African Americans in the rap world and many others have taken La Vida Loca with it's lowriders and handsigns and baggy clothes and bandannas and tatoo styles and are now calling it Hip Hop,...or Bloods and Crips. Totally ripping off the Chicanos. But nobody will even say a word about why Africans American youths are trying to act like Chicanos. PLEASE. You're talking out of your neck on this one. I doubt any real hip hop heads or anybody from the 'hood will chime in with your ass on this fantasy sh*t you conjured up. Hip hop music, fashion and culture will always be rooted in a Black American experience. And hip hop didn't exist in the 1940s, what the f**k are you talking about? Get your mind right. | |
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But nobody will even say a word about why Africans American youths are trying to act like Chicanos.
That may be the dumbest sentence I've read all year...I know it's only February, but I've read A LOT of dumb shit since Jan 1st and THAT SENTENCE takes the muthafuckin cake. Not to start any shit in here just because this dude is obviously trying to start some mess, but the Chicanos copped the many styles of handshakes that African-Americans do and they copped most of the dancing, especially pop-locking and break dancing from Blacks. They also copped the rap music. Blacks have copped from their culture as well, like lowriders and dickies/cackys and wife-beaters, but then the Latinoes also copped the white t-shirt style from Blacks. We borrow from one another and only this fool is trying to create some tension between an ALREADY strained relationship between Blacks and Latinoes. "Free yo mind and yo ass will follow" - George Clinton | |
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