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Thread started 02/13/06 12:34pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Kelly Clarkson deserved those grammies!

Because that album was excellent for the winner of the glorified star search nod
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Reply #1 posted 02/13/06 12:36pm

Anx

i wish they would have just done like they did for neely o'hara in valley of the dolls and given her a special custom award just for being her. i could get behind that. apparently, so could the viewers of american idol.
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Reply #2 posted 02/13/06 12:39pm

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Anx said:

i wish they would have just done like they did for neely o'hara in valley of the dolls and given her a special custom award just for being her. i could get behind that. apparently, so could the viewers of american idol.



Neeeeely O'Haaaaaraaaaa!
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Reply #3 posted 02/13/06 12:40pm

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Anx said:

i wish they would have just done like they did for neely o'hara in valley of the dolls and given her a special custom award just for being her. i could get behind that. apparently, so could the viewers of american idol.

you saying her music isn'y worthy of the award? confused
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Reply #4 posted 02/13/06 12:45pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Anx said:

i wish they would have just done like they did for neely o'hara in valley of the dolls and given her a special custom award just for being her. i could get behind that. apparently, so could the viewers of american idol.

you saying her music isn'y worthy of the award? confused


she won an award over a paul mccartney song produced by nigel godrich (which, on a personal level, i LOVE).

she ain't THAT worthy.
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Reply #5 posted 02/13/06 12:47pm

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Anx said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


you saying her music isn'y worthy of the award? confused


she won an award over a paul mccartney song produced by nigel godrich (which, on a personal level, i LOVE).

she ain't THAT worthy.


I have never heard that song before so I'm clearly not as informed as you lol

I still think her album was fantastic and deserved recognition nod
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Reply #6 posted 02/13/06 12:48pm

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Anx said:

i wish they would have just done like they did for neely o'hara in valley of the dolls and given her a special custom award just for being her. i could get behind that. apparently, so could the viewers of american idol.


lol I love that book!

And Kelly Clarkson is no Neely O'Hara!
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Reply #7 posted 02/13/06 1:03pm

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theVelvetRoper said:

Anx said:

i wish they would have just done like they did for neely o'hara in valley of the dolls and given her a special custom award just for being her. i could get behind that. apparently, so could the viewers of american idol.


lol I love that book!

And Kelly Clarkson is no Neely O'Hara!



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Reply #8 posted 02/13/06 1:06pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Anx said:



she won an award over a paul mccartney song produced by nigel godrich (which, on a personal level, i LOVE).

she ain't THAT worthy.


I have never heard that song before so I'm clearly not as informed as you lol

I still think her album was fantastic and deserved recognition nod


paul's last album was the best thing he's done since the early '70s, at least in my opinion. and the producer was the man who did radiohead's "ok computer", and he did a gorgeous job. in my opinion, paul's last album is like what rick rubin did with johnny cash when they made the 'american recordings' albums. it's just completely revitalized, beautiful music that takes the artist back to the roots of what he does best. see also: loretta lynn's "van lear rose".

i think that deserves more recognition than a glorified karaoke contest winner. that said, i will have to temper my indignation by remembering that there's no such thing as crappy music if that music is genuinely appreciated by even one person. so those who think her music is non-crap, well...kudos!
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Reply #9 posted 02/13/06 1:17pm

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Anx said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



I have never heard that song before so I'm clearly not as informed as you lol

I still think her album was fantastic and deserved recognition nod


paul's last album was the best thing he's done since the early '70s, at least in my opinion. and the producer was the man who did radiohead's "ok computer", and he did a gorgeous job. in my opinion, paul's last album is like what rick rubin did with johnny cash when they made the 'american recordings' albums. it's just completely revitalized, beautiful music that takes the artist back to the roots of what he does best. see also: loretta lynn's "van lear rose".

i think that deserves more recognition than a glorified karaoke contest winner. that said, i will have to temper my indignation by remembering that there's no such thing as crappy music if that music is genuinely appreciated by even one person. so those who think her music is non-crap, well...kudos!

Compare her first album to this one and you will see the reason why someone like myself thinks she deserved to win!! biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 02/13/06 1:20pm

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I really like her nod I think she's managed to shake the American Idol thing and make it in her own right. I find her a helluvalotmore listenable than certain other female stars who seem to be getting awards left and right.
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Reply #11 posted 02/13/06 2:43pm

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in a world full of artists who don't write their own music or play instruments.....Kelly is one of the best.....go Kelly! Keep lowering those standards!
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pkidwell said:

in a world full of artists who don't write their own music or play instruments.....Kelly is one of the best.....go Kelly! Keep lowering those standards!


Regardless there was some strong songs on her album.
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Reply #13 posted 02/13/06 3:28pm

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pkidwell said:

in a world full of artists who don't write their own music or play instruments.....Kelly is one of the best.....go Kelly! Keep lowering those standards!



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cant one say the same about aretha and ella and holiday?
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Reply #14 posted 02/13/06 3:57pm

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pkidwell said:

in a world full of artists who don't write their own music or play instruments.....Kelly is one of the best.....go Kelly! Keep lowering those standards!



falloff

cant one say the same about aretha and ella and holiday?


Aretha, Ella, Holliday, Clarkson.

Which one is the glaring addition?

Now ask your question again.
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Reply #15 posted 02/13/06 11:36pm

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She co-wrote Because of You and Behind These Hazel Eyes. I'm amazed that she's survived idol for her music. She's great live and I think she's made a really good album.

The Paul McCartney record, it means nothing to him if he wins. He has had every success possible, he couldn't have cared less, why not share the appreciation around.
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Reply #16 posted 02/14/06 5:34am

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The Paul McCartney record, it means nothing to him if he wins. He has had every success possible, he couldn't have cared less, why not share the appreciation around.


ok, that i can understand. he doesn't need any more glory in his life, really. though i still his music was certainly more deserving of accolades.

as for clarkson being on the same level as aretha/ella/billie talent-wise...come on, now. kelly's a sally one-note. she knows how to shout her lyrics. she doesn't have vocal range. her ability to make loud noises has made her famous. she also has all the stage presence of a walmart cashier (which i'm guessing is what's winning her a lot of heartland america fans), whereas those others on the list actually had charisma and charm, and they all seemed to want their audiences to see a PERFORMER on stage, rather than "hey look at me! ain't i lucky? wanna hear me belt one out? golly!" rolleyes
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Reply #17 posted 02/18/06 4:12am

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I agree. she's a real sweethart.
And , can actually sing
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Reply #18 posted 02/18/06 7:56am

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Anx said:

mynameisnotsusan said:



The Paul McCartney record, it means nothing to him if he wins. He has had every success possible, he couldn't have cared less, why not share the appreciation around.


ok, that i can understand. he doesn't need any more glory in his life, really. though i still his music was certainly more deserving of accolades.

as for clarkson being on the same level as aretha/ella/billie talent-wise...come on, now. kelly's a sally one-note. she knows how to shout her lyrics. she doesn't have vocal range. her ability to make loud noises has made her famous. she also has all the stage presence of a walmart cashier (which i'm guessing is what's winning her a lot of heartland america fans), whereas those others on the list actually had charisma and charm, and they all seemed to want their audiences to see a PERFORMER on stage, rather than "hey look at me! ain't i lucky? wanna hear me belt one out? golly!" rolleyes


NOPE I think the point was that Aretha Ella Billie and countless others neither wrote or played a damn thing, so that doesn't necessarily means it's "lowering standards"

"in a world full of artists who don't write their own music or play instruments.....Kelly is one of the best.....go Kelly! Keep lowering those standards!"

OOh and the whole walmart dig.....that was kinda snobbish don'tcha think lol
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