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Printablesosgemini said: wonder505 said: Did she take Control or was she lucky enough to be handed over to the right producers? oh come on...sure it was jam & lewis's production savy and skill that lead to Control..but without Janet's 'tude and style there would be no landmark.. folks on a prince site should all understand the importance of image. It's Jam and Lewis's savy and skill that lead to her whole career in my opinion. You also should attribute the influence of her brother. She saw the impact dance had on his career and she used that element to enhance her career. I'll give Janet props to all her hard work, but I more believe she was with the right family, the right place with the right producers, it's a formula destined to work. Not to mention she's beautiful. | |
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wonder505 said: I love Control only because it opened the door for one of my favorite album in the world, Rhythmn Nation. I know folks vote Velvet Rope as her masterpiece, but Rhythmn Nation by all means to me is THE PERFECT ALBUM and it really sealed the deal on what Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis can do. Just my opinion.
control is funkier the first half of RN is KILLER but then the fluff...escapade and love will never do without you are nice, so is come back to me...but i like from the beginning up through miss you much...if that were an ep that shit would be fire...the knowledge is hot shit I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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JANFAN4L said: TonyVanDam said: BTW, THAT guy in this classic video is now a women (post-op tranny)! I remember a couple of years ago, he appear on Sally to talk about this now classic Janet video. Him & Janet had good chemistry in their leading roles. [Edited 2/11/06 8:00am] You know what, I *definitely* remember hearing that. I think he went the Ola Ray route... wasn't he also drugged out? I guess homeboy wanted to be "in Control"?  LOL!Ola Ray was drugged out? Can someone explain when this happened?  | |
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wonder505 said: sosgemini said: oh come on...sure it was jam & lewis's production savy and skill that lead to Control..but without Janet's 'tude and style there would be no landmark.. folks on a prince site should all understand the importance of image. It's Jam and Lewis's savy and skill that lead to her whole career in my opinion. You also should attribute the influence of her brother. She saw the impact dance had on his career and she used that element to enhance her career. I'll give Janet props to all her hard work, but I more believe she was with the right family, the right place with the right producers, it's a formula destined to work. Not to mention she's beautiful. EVERY ARTIST IS INFLUENCED BY OTHER ARTISTS: michael - james brown madonna - blonde, cyndi lauper etc... prince - hendrix, little richard but you can't really say, that the artists that influence them are responsible for their careers? i think people give too much props to michael, its so easy to say janet is only successful because of her brothers. But where are the other 7 siblings who attempted solo careers? However i do agree that janet was at the right place at the right time, but so are all other artists that gain record contracts. there are countless talented artists without record deals, its really down to luck with everyone. | |
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mancabdriver said: wonder505 said: It's Jam and Lewis's savy and skill that lead to her whole career in my opinion. You also should attribute the influence of her brother. She saw the impact dance had on his career and she used that element to enhance her career. I'll give Janet props to all her hard work, but I more believe she was with the right family, the right place with the right producers, it's a formula destined to work. Not to mention she's beautiful. EVERY ARTIST IS INFLUENCED BY OTHER ARTISTS: michael - james brown madonna - blonde, cyndi lauper etc... prince - hendrix, little richard but you can't really say, that the artists that influence them are responsible for their careers? i think people give too much props to michael, its so easy to say janet is only successful because of her brothers. But where are the other 7 siblings who attempted solo careers? However i do agree that janet was at the right place at the right time, but so are all other artists that gain record contracts. there are countless talented artists without record deals, its really down to luck with everyone. Ofcourse every artist is influenced by other artists but to say the dance element which underscores Janet's career had nothing to do with Michael, to me is absurd, and furthermore, the difference between her and her other siblings that tried solo careers - JIMMY JAM AND TERRY LEWIS. Like I said, right family, right place, right time, RIGHT PRODUCERS. | |
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Krytonite said: JANFAN4L said: You know what, I *definitely* remember hearing that. I think he went the Ola Ray route... wasn't he also drugged out? I guess homeboy wanted to be "in Control"? LOL!Ola Ray was drugged out? Can someone explain when this happened? Don't know the exact dates. But there was a story on A Current Affair back in the early 90s that featured Ola and focused on what happened to her in the years after appearing in MJ's Thriller vid. She slipped into drug addiction and was on some hard street drugs (Crack Cocaine) and last I heard of her she was drugged out of her mind living in a Hollywood apartment complex. This was over 10 years ago. Don't know where she is now. | |
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dewalliz said: purplecam said: that was my introuduction to janet. i was 7 and i realized that michael had a sister. i liked it a lot but nasty is what sealed the deal. oh i LOVE What have you done... now. makes me miss my youth.
I was a year younger and I even remember to this day how Control and What Have you done for me lately was play to death at my house. I can't believed Control made 20 years ago. Damn time have flies when you having some fun.  i remember it was played to death here too. those were fun times. glad to see you back JANFAN4L! i missed seeing your posts on janet. [Edited 2/12/06 18:01pm] [Edited 2/12/06 18:02pm] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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TonyVanDam said: RipHer2Shreds said: I want pictures! [b]All we need is the name of THIS guy, then use a search engine (like wikipedia.com) and we'll have pictures. So what's the name of that guy... IWANNA SEE SOME PICS TOO HE WAS CUTE 
IS SHE? "America is a continent..." |
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wonder505 said: mancabdriver said: EVERY ARTIST IS INFLUENCED BY OTHER ARTISTS: michael - james brown madonna - blonde, cyndi lauper etc... prince - hendrix, little richard but you can't really say, that the artists that influence them are responsible for their careers? i think people give too much props to michael, its so easy to say janet is only successful because of her brothers. But where are the other 7 siblings who attempted solo careers? However i do agree that janet was at the right place at the right time, but so are all other artists that gain record contracts. there are countless talented artists without record deals, its really down to luck with everyone. Ofcourse every artist is influenced by other artists but to say the dance element which underscores Janet's career had nothing to do with Michael, to me is absurd, and furthermore, the difference between her and her other siblings that tried solo careers - JIMMY JAM AND TERRY LEWIS. Like I said, right family, right place, right time, RIGHT PRODUCERS. I think that Janet has the Jackson name to thank for her record deal, and for the push that Control got from A&M Records, but after Control, it didn't matter which family she came from. By the end of the Control juggernaut, Janet had already achieved more than any other member of her family (except for Mike) on the pop charts. By janet., she was as big, if not bigger than her brother in America. 'Scream' was a bigger boon to MJ's career than to Janet's. BTW: I fail to see how Madonna was influenced by Cyndi Lauper, seeing how they came out around the same time, and their sound wasn't really even that similar. I'm the first mammal to wear pants. | |
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Axchi696 said: wonder505 said: Ofcourse every artist is influenced by other artists but to say the dance element which underscores Janet's career had nothing to do with Michael, to me is absurd, and furthermore, the difference between her and her other siblings that tried solo careers - JIMMY JAM AND TERRY LEWIS. Like I said, right family, right place, right time, RIGHT PRODUCERS. I think that Janet has the Jackson name to thank for her record deal, and for the push that Control got from A&M Records, but after Control, it didn't matter which family she came from. By the end of the Control juggernaut, Janet had already achieved more than any other member of her family (except for Mike) on the pop charts. By janet., she was as big, if not bigger than her brother in America. 'Scream' was a bigger boon to MJ's career than to Janet's. BTW: I fail to see how Madonna was influenced by Cyndi Lauper, seeing how they came out around the same time, and their sound wasn't really even that similar. i believe that madonna's punk/ rock chick style was influenced by cyndi. It doesn't really matter if they were out at the same time, in fact Cyndi was releasing records in the late 70's when she was in a group | |
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