One example:

Hollaback Girl by Gwen Stefani. Come on, y'all- it's got nearly the same drums as Housequake.

Zeta said:

Um...I don't think anyone will EVER consider "Holla Back Girl" as "Funk" and PLEASE do not disrespect funk like that ever agin. Kay-kay?

ChristopherTracyParade said:

f'real. funk does NOT like it when it's downgraded like that.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Really doe! We may need to issue her a "Get Out Of 'Pop' Free" card.

Still yet, none of y'all faced the fact that the drums in that song are dang close to "Housequake".

Zeta said:

Once, I sat close to Denzel at a get-together. Does that make me a Movie Star?

ChristopherTracyParade said:

Good point.

I just think that it would empower the funk into a huge movement if more people were included in the genre, even the fringe influenced folks like Gwen. Even rock songs, some by the White Stripes, could be included.

Zeta said:

Ok, but here's your problem: If it ISN'T Funk then it ISN'T Funk. There's no way around it. You can't make allowances for it. Either it's Funk or it's not. Being "close" doesn't make it Funk.

True, but "funk" isn't necessarily just "Doo Doo Chasers". Funk is in a person's auora. If the people who make the music are freethinking people, there IS an element of funk present.

Zeta said:

Yeah there's always room for faked-funk; just like there's "smooth jazz".
not that i give a crap for either, but many others will dig it.

'Funk' and 'funky' is a mis-used term in England. it's used to describe anything from eateries to clothing. the true meaning of funk is lost here. I'm constantly educating dim-witted fuckheads.

'Funk' and 'funky' is a mis-used term in England. it's used to describe anything from eateries to clothing. the true meaning of funk is lost here. I'm constantly educating dim-witted fuckheads.

I have the same question about "black rock". It really only came into vogue in the 90s with the establishment of the Black Rock Coalition and I'm down with all the political necessities, but if such a thing really exists, then what do you call the blues and r&b artists like Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, BB King, et al, that influenced the very development rock &roll?

PFunkjazz said:

I think you're confusing the term with the style.

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What was the question again?

Is stupid a legitimate form of thinking? Do the math.

I have the same question about "black rock". It really only came into vogue in the 90s with the establishment of the Black Rock Coalition and I'm down with all the political necessities, but if such a thing really exists, then what do you call the blues and r&b artists like Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, BB King, et al, that influenced the very development rock &roll?

Funk is a distinct style of music originated by African-Americans, e.g., James Brown and his band members (especially Maceo and Melvin Parker), and groups like The Meters. Funk best can be recognized by its syncopated three against four rhythms; thick bass line (often based on an "on the one" beat); razor-sharp rhythm guitars; chanted or hollered vocals (as that of Marva Whitney or the Bar-Kays); strong, rhythm-oriented horn sections; prominent percussion; an upbeat attitude; African tones; danceability; and strong jazz influences (e.g., as in the music of Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, George Duke, Eddie Harris, and others). Parliment Funkadelic took Funk to a whole new level.

Compared to funk's predecessor, the soul music of 1960s, funk typically uses more complex rhythms, while song structures are usually simpler. Often, the structure of a funk song consists of just one or two riffs. Sometimes the point at which one riff changes to another becomes the highlight of a song. The soul dance music of its day, the basic idea of funk was to create as intense a groove as possible.

One of the most distinctive features of funk music is the role played by bass guitar. Before soul music, bass was rarely prominent in popular music. Players like the legendary Motown bassist James Jamerson brought bass to the forefront, and funk built on that foundation, with melodic basslines often being the centerpiece of songs. Notable funk bassists include Bootsy Collins and Larry Graham of Sly & the Family Stone. Graham is often credited with inventing the percussive "slap bass technique," which was further developed by later bassists and became a distictive element of funk.

Some of the best known and most skillful soloists in funk have jazz backgrounds. Trombonist Fred Wesley and saxophonist Maceo Parker are among the most notable musicians in the funk music genre, both having worked with James Brown and George Clinton. Jazz was, in turn, strongly influenced by funk in the 1970s, beginning with Miles Davis, the founder of the jazz fusion movement.

In funk bands, guitarists typically play in a percussive style. "Dead" or muted notes often are used in riffs to strengthen percussive elements. Jimi Hendrix was the pioneer of funk rock and his improvised other-worldly solos influenced Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic. Eddie Hazel, who later worked with George Clinton is one of the most notable guitar soloists in funk. Jimmy Nolen and Phelps Collins are famous funk rhythm guitarists who both worked with James Brown.

Prince, using a stripped-down instrumentation similar to Rick James, went on to have as much of an impact on the sound of funk as any one artist since James Brown. Prince combined eroticism, technology, an increasing musical complexity, and an outrageous image and stage show to ultimately create a musical world as ambitious and imaginative as P-Funk or The Beatles. The Time, originally conceived as an opening act for Prince and based on his "Minneapolis sound", went on to define their own style of stripped-down funk based on tight musicianship and sexual themes.

Please, please, please, please, please, please, please.....

Dont anyone ever (Prince himselve) consider Earth, Wind and Fire 'Funk'!!!!!

They arent, they are showpeople, disco-artists, watered down woozies, but theres one thing for sure: EWF arent Funk!

Get it?????