2freaky4church1 said:

A Funky Shark.

is FUNK a legitimate form of music?????


IS THE SUN HOT???


I understand that your friend may not have heard of this type of music..
(your friend's age is a dead giveaway as it is)
but HELL YES

FUNK IS A LEGITIMATE FORM OF MUSIC

even if most of the BULLSHIT that passes for "music" on the radio is totally watered-down, derivative & boring.


FUNK has an ATTITUDE of its own.
FUNK wakes you up.
FUNK knocks you out.
FUNK makes you stay up all night long.
FUNK reminds you that you are ALIVE.

FUNK IS.


&
FUNK is something that once you really get it in your system,
it is in you FOREVER. I was 1st into funk when I was THREE years old - I was jammin' to Sly & The Family Stone (& my mother confirms this recollection I have).
I went from
Sly
to
Ohio Players
to
Bootsy
to
P-Funk
to
Prince,
Cameo
&
The Time..
by the time I got to Bootsy
(who in fact "targeted" his cartoon-like brand of FUNK to "geepies")
I was TOTALLY HOOKED ON FUNK
FOREVER.
& at the time I didn't even realize it!
THAT is how POWERFUL
FUNK
is!


I'M TESTIN
POSITIVE
FOR THE FUNK
I'll gladly pee in anybody's cup !

mltijchr said:

Like I said earlier,
I cannot believe this is an actual topic/thread...
I thought this to be a joke.
But... the more you live the more you learn.

Bfunkthe1 said:

mltijchr said:

You betta not leave out SLAVE, dammit!

LoveAlive said:

If you're still in doubt - You NEED to watch the PBS documentary on P-Funk/George Clinton. THEN you will know for sure that it IS a LEGITIMATE form music.

ChristopherTracyParade said:

I already KNOW that funk is legitimate but if you go up to the average 20-something, they wouldnt have any idea what funk is.

LoveAlive said:

Funk lives on. Sirius Heart and Soul currently dedicates Friday's to playing the Funk. Many Sirius Subscribers are currently petitioning for an "all Funk Channel". If any of you are supporters of the funk, please go to www.siriusbackstage.com and vote for the station called "funkalicious". This is a fan site, and they are having a contest to select fan station ideas for consideration on Sirius. Then I would suggest subscribing to Sirius, the music played there is like the way radio should be done. They do it well.

Here is what "funkalicious" would look like:

1 Channel Name: Funkalicious
Format: The hottest hits and deep tracks that represent the broad spectrum of Funk.
2. Genre: Hip-hop/R&B (Artist Mix? Funk, rock, Jazz, anything funky?)
3. We play the funkiest mix of music from today and yesterday. If the music and the artist is funky, it will play. The dj’s and the music are funky as hell.
4. Sample Songs

1. Get up off of that Thing-James Brown
2. Star Child/Mothership Connection-Parliament
3. Happy Valentine’s Day- Outkast
4. HeartBeat- War
5. Erotic City-Prince
6. Sing a Simple Song-Sly and the Family Stone
7. N.E.R.D-Don’t Worry About it
8. Fight the Power-Isley Brothers
9. Sir Psycho Sexy-Red hot Chili Peppers
10. So What the Fuss- Stevie Wonder


5. The channel will have dj’s including “special guest dj’s”. There will also be different shows:

1. Live and Funky- (3 hour show) Plays live tracks from the vast archives of the funkiest artist alive or dead. Big Concerts, Aftershows, Rare unreleased funk from the artists archives.
2. Funky Rock- (2 hour show) Will focus on rock that influenced funk and funk that influenced rock and everything that has since then resulted.
3. Futuristic Funk (2 hour show)- Funk of today and funky tracks of tomorrow. Looks outside of classic funk artist. Plays tracks that are just plain old funky from any genre. Techno, Industrial, Jazz, Rock, Hip Hop and so on
4. Friday Night Funk Party -Plays only the funkiest and most danceable funk tracks. Guaranteed to be the life of many Friday night Parties.
5. Funky Influence. The songs and artist that influenced the funk. Folk, Rock, Blues, any artist that influenced the great funk artist will be played.
6. New Wave Funk- Funk from the New Wave Era- Saturday afternoons
7. Baby Makin Smokey Funk- Slow Funk Jams for the slow jam fans. Sunday nights.
8. Funk you might have missed-Outside of the box funk. We search the vast musical archives for funk that you may not be aware of. The deepest of the deep funkiest smelling jams from artist you may have otherwise missed.
9. Artist Pics: Special Guest Dj' shows that allow the artist to do what ever they want.

Tell your buddy "What the funk is wrong with you, you funking fool". "You better get the funk with it and stop being so funking shallow. Funk you! You don't know what the funk is. You funking idiot!" "Get the funk out of my face, you funking non-music lover." Just kidding. But Siriusly, what the Funk!

siriusfunk said:

I feel ya but unfortunately, if the music isnt somehow invlolving hip hop, then most young people aint interested. I will never understand the attraction of hip hop.

LoveAlive said:

Uh...Hip Hop music owes almost its ENTIRE EXISTENCE TO FUNK MUSIC. You betta recognize!

"Uh...Hip Hop music owes almost its ENTIRE EXISTENCE TO FUNK MUSIC. You betta recognize!"

Well, I know that but tell that to my 22 yr old friend who screamed out "WHO STOLE BIGGIE'S BEAT" when I was playing Mtume's JUICY FRUIT

FalseSetto said:

WORD!

LoveAlive said:

You need to educate that chile! Most of "Biggie's Beats" are rip-offs from others, and your friend needs to be schooled! Biggie and Puff the Magic Sampler haven't done a whole lot of original stuff.

Is Funk legitimate? Absolutely! In fact, it is one of the most influencial styles around today. Hip-hop is just its bastard offspring, and lots of rock and pop has funk elements today. Heck, even a whole lot of jazz musicians have been influenced by Funk. It is more than legitimate, it is an essential element of music today.

Militant said:

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Most people have no interest in finding the original song. Let's be real.

Hit him with all 12 inches of Databank and watch him be still.

laurarichardson said:

But it makes people familiar with the sound of back in the days, and maybe they'll pick up some of that when they hear it...
Funk as a genre is not what it used 2 b in terms of groups and hit songs, but it lives on through hiphop, that's 4 sure... Not all but hey
Maybe there will be a revival, who knows!

How can someone not have heard of funk??
According to Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English (Ok, I feel quite nerdy now) "funk is a style of music with a strong rhythm that is based on jazz and African music." I think that's a quite good definition, even if it's more than that.

funk music is just as legitimate as the smell.

Bfunkthe1 said:

There it is....Dig, when I first saw this, I was like "Whaaat?!Huh?!". I can't shake my head enough.

LoveAlive said:

U are joking right? Funk is THE music. The baddest form of music on earth.
P-Funk, James brown, Prince, Bootsy,.....please. -Mg

I think funk has been delegated to a prefix that's added onto other music styles now...

Funk Rock
Funk Jazz
Funk Blues

And many more. Funk itself never stands alone because it can always be absorbed by a larger genre.

P-Funk, Sly and James Brown can be absorbed into either R&B, Soul or Disco, depending on the date. (Flashlight was a disco smash, whether you like it or not). Chili Peppers started out doing punk funk, but are now boring old alternative.

Prince is DANCE music. He GETS funky, but it's DANCE music.

And all of these things are funky, but the genre/style FUNK doesn't stand alone. And honestly, I don't think it ever did. I think James Brown elevated R&B to a whole new level, and he got nasty funky, but I think to the general public, it's always been some other form of music with a funk- prefix.

Which then, of course, means that it'll ALWAYS be around, and will pop up in all styles of music.

Just my opinions

LoveAlive said:

GIT yur friend this bible and let him/her STUDY ... HARD !!!!!.

Oh yeah , btw , the funk-term is originated from body-odour .
Read and learn the rest in the book or visit www.rickeyvincent.com .... they even got a school over there for funk-fakers .

And funk should NOT and NEVER 2b questioned as "legitimate" at all ... PERIOD !!!!!
Above that it is more than just a musical term , it's an approach of adrenaline which you just have to experience .
I remember seeing Bootsy doing for a tv-program some skills on his aqua-space-bass .
When they asked him to define his playing ... he answered : " It's just what i do and hard to explain , you've got the funk or not "

It all comes down to the rhythm on the one , which was found by James Brown .
.
.
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[Edited 3/1/06 6:42am]

THREE WORDS:

NEW FUNK ORDER

www.newfunkorder.com

100MPH said:[quote]

LoveAlive said:

GIT yur friend this bible and let him/her STUDY ... HARD !!!!!.

Oh yeah , btw , the funk-term is originated from body-odour .
Read and learn the rest in the book or visit www.rickeyvincent.com .... they even got a school over there for funk-fakers .

And funk should NOT and NEVER 2b questioned as "legitimate" at all ... PERIOD !!!!!
Above that it is more than just a musical term , it's an approach of adrenaline which you just have to experience .
I remember seeing Bootsy doing for a tv-program some skills on his aqua-space-bass .
When they asked him to define his playing ... he answered : " It's just what i do and hard to explain , you've got the funk or not "

It all comes down to the rhythm on the one , which was found by James Brown .
.
.
.
[Edited 3/1/06 6:42am]
Excellent book. I've had this for years.

This thread makes me think about the word 'funk'. In the past i often said to people i love 'funk', but when i think about that isnt totally right. Just as most (popular) musicstyles funk is a broad genre, and i happen to like the more harder, directer funksounds. Just as crowded house make good 'pop' music, and britney spears makes bad 'pop' music (an opinion, of course) i think that when it comes to 'funk' in the 'good' camp for me are:

- James Brown (not the inventor probably, but the one who brought it to the general intention, sober, sharp, elementary funk)
- Sly and the Family Stone (bringing the funk to a new level, mixing it with rock, soul and psychedelic pop... a blueprint for prince).
- Parliament (psychedelic, 'druggy', funk, sometimes irritating because of the many silly voices, but great beats, bass and vocal harmonies)
- Prince (Prince is definitely more then a funk artist, but when you look at what his contribution to funk is, i think he is surely expanding the things originated on the line James Brown - Sly Stone - George Clinton, his use of drummachines, background vocals, his sometimes very minimalistic approach have influenced not only funk, but artists as diverse as Lenny Kravitz, Beck, D' Angelo, Pharrel Williams, Outkast, and the way songs sound nowadays in general (you can hear the Prince influence in the work a lot of succesfull producers knowadys: The Neptunes, Missy Elliot, Kanye West, even those swedish guys producing the backstreet boys)
- Funkrock or Funkmetal: when raw, pure funk is mixed with rock it creates very energetic music, both rocking and danceable. My favorites in this genre: Rage Against the Machine, Living Colour and Urban Dance Squad.
- Electrofunk: modern european (mostly french) artists like Daft Punk are using funk elements in their sharp, pumping instrumental dancemusic. The best Prince-song in the last 5 (maybe 10) years is not by Prince: Push Up but by the Freestylers

In the 'bad' camp for me:
- Most jazzfusion artists: I mean the Chick Chorea, Weather Report, Kenny G crap, they use elements from the funk, but their music is watered down, lacking soul and spirit.
- Discofunk: artists in the vein of Earth, Wind and Fire, who became popular at the late seventies when funk turned into disco. A sort of showfunk, nice stage act, but the funk is way too 'soft' and watered down for me.
- The sort of orchestrated kitchy / campy funk you hear in blaxploitation- or other seventies movies
- Funky pop: popular in the eighties, when artists like Level42, Johny Hates Jazz and curiousity killed the cat (maybe Jamiroquai is acting in the same vein), were mixing lightfunk with pop and some fusion elements: way to lightweight, i want the funk, the beat, the one to hit me right in the face .

dag said:

However, some younsgters believe that "real funk" is Jamiroquai ( I do like them) and that Funkadelic is a kind of prehistoric state of lately developed funky sound. Thats not fair. I mean for some young people there is a kind of "old school" funk that they dont appreciatte enough. I know that I m doing a generalization, but I just want to ilustrate one problem of Funk as "legimate form of music".

Riverpoet31 said:

Right on RiverPoet!