Anx said:

You people need to look underground. Rock and Roll is alive and well.

JudasLChrist said:

most of what i listen to is "underground". what out there do you consider "alive and well"?

JudasLChrist said:

You people are all lookin' in the wrong spot fer yer rock n roll music. I'd like to offer you people some help.

People don't like certain music for there own reasons.

If they don't give something a try because it's white, black, funk, pop, gospel R&B or church hymns etc then they are the only ones missing out.

As long as you LIKE what you are listening to, that's all that matters right?

Go to a show where it's one rap act and one punk act, and the rap kids feel the whole show, while the punk kids are like during the rap act.

CinisterCee said:

I've never seen a bill with rap and punk acts together. Unless you mean one of those big festival type deals where Green Day shares a stage with A Tribe Called Quest.

sextonseven said:

No I'm talking about way smaller shows.

CinisterCee said:

In that case you definitely don't see rap and punk acts on the same bill in NYC.

sextonseven said:

And the reason is rock fans that can't get down with rap

Awesome thread!

I'm white and for the most part don't like rock. I find it boring musically. Often just guitars and guys who can't sing.

R&B and Soul has great vocal harmonies, great instrumentation (keyboards, bass, horns), and peopol with amazing voices.


And Judas.....Mariah is nota FAKER! She may act like a 'ho on TV but the girl has natural music talent.

CinisterCee said:

Are you seriously saying that the majority of rap fans dig punk shows?

CinisterCee said:

I don't think so. I've gone to a few Lolllapolllooozzza shows, and the kids were diggin' Tribe Called Quest, Arrested Development and Beastie Boys as much as they were Smashing Pumpkins, L7, The Breeders, etc.

RipHer2Shreds said:

yeah, but then this was in the days when there were still really good rap groups and also really good rock bands that could share a bill because there was truly a crossover audience then (and the MUSIC was just much better too! IMO). They really complemented each other. I went to tons of punk and hip hop shows in smaller venues back in the late 80s and early 90s and the crowds were always really diverse. The same people that went to Tribe Called Quest, BDP, EPMD, Public Enemy, Eric B. and Rakim, Beastie Boys, etc. were also the same people that went to go see the rock and punk bands like Jane's Addiction, Rage Against the Machine, Fishbone, Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Descendents, and The Circle Jerks. The same people (I guess I'm talking about myself as well here ) were also way into the 2nd and 3rd wave ska scene at the time, like The Specials, The Selecter, Let's Go Bowling, No Doubt, The Toasters, The Beat, Fishbone (again ).

I miss those days. I don't think this scene exists anymore.
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I haven't experienced much of this in my own life with the friends and acquaintances I know. I guess I'm lucky.

one of the best experiences i ever had was at lollapalooza, taking in the breeders, the beastie boys and george clinton, all in a row...it's all the same thing, when it comes down to it...good music is good music is good music.

Anx said:

I was at that Lolla too, and as an 18-year-old, it seemed like the most natural thing in the world.

I don't know.... why are there so many people on the org with a "if it's not funk(y) it sucks" mentality?

minneapolisgenius said:

In Music:Non-Prince, it is code for MJ's severed nose.

CinisterCee said:

JudasLChrist said:

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Current R&B and Hip-Hop does suck but even if he did not. Rockers would still hate on anything outside of Rock. I don't know if it just a matter of having a closed mind or if it is all racial but it is pretty silly.
Since rock came out of Blues.

TheAstonishing said:

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Because that is the conerstone of P's music. It is pretty damm strange to be a Prince fan and dislike funk.

laurarichardson said:

As usual, you're being a hypocrite and wildly generalizing. It's okay to hate on anything that's not funk, but...


What the hell ever. That last statement isn't even true.

RipHer2Shreds said:[quote]

laurarichardson said:

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As usual you don't know what the hell your talking about. I don't understand people being Prince fans and hating on funk. Since funk would be the cornerstone of P's music.

In addtion, since I do listen to rock and associate with many different racial groups going back to my high school years almost 20 years ago. I think I can say that most rockers don't like anything outside of Rock.

Perhaps younger people out of my generation are different but, they obviously are not running the record labels or radio networks. Shit even black bands that step out from RnB and Funk and try to do rock can't get signed to a lable or get radio airplay. Kind of makes me think that it is racism and just having a closed mind to other styles of music.

Now come on with more of your off the wall comments. It would not be a day at P org without someone living in a fantasy world about race and how things work.

all i know is, i'm uncomfortable with an emoticon for poop that is colored red.

laurarichardson said:

This is what I don't understand - why is it that when somebody disagrees with your opinion, they're "living in a fantasy world?"
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laurarichardson said:

No one said anything about disliking funk. It's a "if it's not funk, it sucks" mentality. And for your information, Prince started selling significantly more albums when a rock audience started buying them, so you're struck down on two counts.

Anx said:

But are you contemptual with a rock for fans that are colored white?

(C'mon man!
For or 'gainst?
You have to choose a side! )


funk edit.
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Illustrator said:

Anx said:

Best use of a Prince pic ever!

what a crock thread...

I started listening to 70's soul ,then onto heavy metal, then to new wave /punk
and finished it off with Prince.

Now I'll always listen to all of those.