BoySimon said:

why are u here?

BoySimon said:

- I agree with you - Metallica is a good example...but believe it or not, from a musician´s point of view, Prince is still challenging himself (in a discret way). Te Amo Corazon may sound bland and nothing innovative for all people, but it contains harmonic patterns and a beat that was never present in his music before (the drums are almost brazilian bossa nova). In other words...when Prince is locked in his room/studio, he is searching for new elements that, ironically, can sound old to most people. About the anger, I don´t think he has too many reasons to be angry about. He is 46 and seems happier and more relaxed than ever before...

Let´s wait and see what he will offer in the next albums.

anniechristian1 said:

I think that's about right. Let's wait for the new album and see. I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

Why am I here? Because back when I was an impressionable youth and man named Prince redefined music for me. He had an impact on me that no other artist has managed to match, yet. That's why I'm here and that's why I'm disappointed that his career has gone as it has.... that's unfair. I'm disappointed that his releases aren't as fresh as they were. But, as has been wonderfully pointed out by Gustavo, I'm sure Prince thinks he is still challenging himself, hence the 'new' direction. It may not be to my taste, but then, so what? I'm only one of thousands he has to please.

Sly said:

That sounds about right.

BoySimon said:

Okay, I was about to ask you if you were aware that there's an entire forum where we do nothing but discuss artists other than Prince. But your above posts indicate that you're familiar with the Music: Non-Prince forum, so I'm totally confused about why you think this thread is appropriate for the Prince forum.

Angelo was the new Prince...
etc
etc
etc
Prince hasn't gone anywhere.
If you don't like the music, go listen to someone else

This thread is in the wrong section lol

Wecome to:

Music: Non-Prince

this is just wrong, its like finding gay porn in the straight section. Call the police and FBI..

Sly said:

perfect!

I guess Prince has been brought back from the dead.

ImYours said:

Co-Sign (and so well said! )

A very cool performance indeed, but, be honest, are they songs you've not heard before? (Not literally, obviously, but figuratively)

The first one reminded me of Peach, Vavavoom, Da Bang etc in structure and sound, and the lyrics... ok, but not If I Was Your Girlfriend.

The second one? Ok, a good tune, but just so reminiscent of many others.

Don't get me wrong, hugely enjoyable, and with the advent of Black Sweat, cetainly makes the whole 3121 album seem an attractive proposition, but am I expecting to be blown away by its inventiveness and creativity? Not on the basis of what I've heard so far.

To paraphrase Brian Fontana "I love the Prince", but whilst I'm hearing wonderfully entertaining music and seeing superb musicianship, I'm not being inspired as once I was.

If this offends, please go read Puck's final speech.

ImYours said:

Novabreaker: Stop hiding behind the mis-appropriated comments of another, tell me what you really think... or stop wasting my web-time, it costs money.

OK..I had to get in on this thread. (And not a bad one either). As far as I'm concerned, Prince has nothing to prove to anyone. He's done it all. You can only be so cutting edge for so long. Miles went thru it, Trent Reznor went thru it, And Frank Zappa went thru it. The last LP (I.M.H.O) that Prince was reaching out and coming up with new sounds and ideas was "S.O.T.T". Forget Cody Chestnutt...THAT LP is a true, headphone masterpiece.

In the 90's, the Warner battle and "slave" media took away from the music, although some of it wasn't that bad.."Chaos", the 1st side of "Graffitti", and
some of "Gold". Prince started getting his creative juices back a little with
"Emancipation". In the 90's, Me'Shell, D'angelo, Trent, and others were kind of filling the space musically for me that Prince kind of let go of.

"Musicology" was a decent comeback and it was great to see him in the public eye again and getting the respect he deserved. With the new CD coming out, I'm not expecting "S.O.T.T part 2" or "Dirty Mind - The Sequel"..but after seeing him kick ass the other night on SNL and hearing "Black Sweat", I'm glad he's putting something exciting out. I don't think he's looking for a top ten hit (and neither am I)... He's in a happier place now and that's all that matters.

I don't think Prince is dead,insteed he's finally back in
the spotlight since Musicology and I think 3121 will be better.
It's seems Prince has found a new path 2 follow,no obscure releases anymore but an adult aproach towards his kind of music.
Who wants 2 see a 46 old genius scream Let's go crazy ??
It just wouldn't suit him.

Anyway,I thought Bilal,Maxwell and DÁngelo were the new generation
but it seems they didn't last long and they only took one musical side of Prince,the ballads and slow grooves,not much funk or rock.

It's a cliche,but in those 20 Purple years I never found an other artist who
put Funk,rock,soul and R&B on one record.
This doesn't mean I don't like other genres but they never had/will have that impact on my again.

there has been a lapse in the flux capacitor!
Holy-Prince-boots! We've got a code red!!!!
Spray the anti-haterade!!! Post haste!!!

A genuine question with regards this debate:
Do you think that Prince raised the stakes too high with his Warner's battle and his expressed desire for artistic freedom? He seemed to indicate that his juices, and the product thereof, were being held hostage by the, golden, shackles of Warner's contract. He hinted at a plethora of stupendous musical moments the instant the bonds were broken and he was able to get all his product to his fans just as the fancy took him.

Were we led to believe that we would get more than we've received, or did we simply expect too much from him?

Why do we still pretend Prince has got the same agenda as us fans? Prince's quest for fame was an interesting one becuz he used music and pictures the masses could tap into, but as soon as he had it, let it go for better music, meaning Around The World In A Day and the four albums that followed (couning The Black Album here).

Then his goals and therefor his music became unfocused and floundery, with just occacional flashes of brilliance.
Even though his music has become somewhat more focused the last few years, esp with Musicology, it can't be helped Prince is no longer the man he used to be. And righteously so. So it is not strange that to some old-time fans do not care much for his recent music like The Rainbow Children.

I am not going to pretend to know what agenda Prince has, sometimes I think he puts out all this music because oterhwise he'd just be bored...

But I really like the vibe of his recent performances and even like the singles; they are straight forward fun again, something I have missed in since all the 'slave'-stuff started.

dawntreader said:

I always thought that was what made this site so interesting.

GustavoRibas said:

Well said agree 100 % but i hope Prince comes back in musical shape with his new abum.

The thread's title merely apes the "king is dead, long live the king" line used in many a cheesy film dealing with royal progression. It is a simple comment on the creativity of Prince as things stand an who has taken on the mantel - in each person's own personal musical world.

If you believed to be a morbid comment on Prince's passing, then I apologise. It as not written with that intent.

Anyway, perhaps the rumours are a little untrue, perhaps the Prince is still alive afterall? We'll just have to wait and see.

BoySimon said:

Oh, please... this is a man that stooped so low as to mingle and converse with the likes of Martha Quinn back in '86!

Long live.....REM, Van Morrison, Matthew Sweet, Lyle Lovett, Yousou n'dour, Bjork (Vespertine!), Tool, Kate Rusby, King's X, Richard Thompson,
Grant Mc Lennan, Gavin Friday, Teenage Fanclub and Crowded House

long live silence!

sarcasm is dead (and totally useless)

and your lazy dismissals are dead on arrival, honey.

what are you trying to say anx? i am just saying which artist i like nowadays.. whats wrong with that?

why can't i say that if prince were hypothetically "dead", then silence is what comes next? i don't necessarily believe that, but i don't believe prince's music is dead either.

i can see you're going to need a lot of my posts explained to you in the future. orgnote me with questions from now on instead of just assuming i'm being "sarcastic" or attacking you. i have better things to do than devil you, and i really don't feel like constantly explaining my posts to the whole site.

thanks!