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Reply #30 posted 01/25/06 8:53pm

CinisterCee

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TheSmyrk said:

Man what the fuck kinda suit Jermaine got on? Look like a Batman villain.


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Reply #31 posted 01/26/06 5:11am

Rhondab

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sosgemini said:

might not have been as big but possibly more respected..

mj has really killed his family's legacy..kinda sad when you think about it.


Nonsense. The music he made as a kid stands way above any of his antics as an adult (and some of the J5 music is actually better too)

I think the J5 would have been legends even if their career had ended at Motown. Little Michael shouldn't be confused with who we have now.



Yeah...we're talking about legacy though. My daughter only knows weird,crazy looking, "children loving", Michael. No music. What's a thriller? Michael has killed his own legacy with his nonsense.
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Reply #32 posted 01/26/06 7:59am

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speaking of the Jackson Five,I was just listening to their Greatest Hits yesterday...it took me right back to the early 70s.

"The Love You Save"
"I Want You Back"
"Never Can Say Goodbye"
"I'll Be There"
"Maybe Tomorrow"


music some of the greatest songs of ALL TIME! music

I'm with u on that, Eye. I'm a HUGE J5 fan. Have been all of my life. Had the pleasure of seeing them as the J5 at The Forum when I was super young. Have all of their albums. That said, Michael was the MAIN reason the J5 were as popular as they were. Jermaine had a soulful voice that worked well with Michael ala "I'll Be There" and on his tracks alone "I Am Love", "Daddy's Home", etc. Jermaine was a crucial element to their success. But nah, without Michael's yelping, pure voice and his "angelic" type aura that drew girls in from all over the world, nah. Good question though.
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Reply #33 posted 01/26/06 8:40am

manthevan

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i doubt it. maybe minorly succesful, but not huge like they were. he just doesnt have an amazing voice like michael. its no where near as unique or as beautiful. all you have to do is listen to 'maria (you were the only one)' to realise how amazing michael was.


Judging their voices is interesting. If we're talking about the J5 era and Jacksons era I definately agree that Michael comes out on top for sure. (Although this is somewhat irrelavant since we're talking the old days I must admit that lately I wouldn't be so sure about who's voice I'd prefer. At least if we are talking live and MSG. Jermaine sounded a hell of a lot better in I'll be there IMO, more soulful and sounded more technical as well. Jermaine's vocals in I'll be there was as good as I've ever heard him unlike Michael's. I've never heard a worse performance of this song from Michael. And let's not even begin to discuss how Michael sounded on Dancing Machine. He struggled to pitch altough they had lowered the key and he was out of breath. I was like, OMG I understand why he prefers to lip synch now days. His voice has deteriorated it seems (unlike Jermaine's). On the other hand he still can sound good on record (Butterflies, Break of dawn etc)
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Reply #34 posted 01/26/06 9:32am

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It's not that hard to imagine Jermaine as the lead singer of the Jacksons. Up until early 1968, he was the lead singer of the Jackson 5 and Mike was co-lead. He actually song lead when they won at the Apollo Theater.

In 1972, it was said that Michael would leave the J5 (Not his choice, Motown executives) fo a full fledged solo career. Randy was to be his replacement, and if you noticed in 1972, RAndy started performing with the J5.

1988-1990 Jermaine was the lead singer of the most recent recarnation of the Jacksons.
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Reply #35 posted 01/27/06 4:59pm

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JERMAINE ON LEADVOCALS AND BASS IN J5 http://www.youtube.com/w/...%20jackson

He ain't Michael of course but I like his smooth voice...
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Reply #36 posted 01/27/06 5:58pm

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Krytonite said:

If Michael didn't exist, do you think the Jackson 5 would have been sucessful with Jermaine as the lead singer?
They may have had some hits. But they would'nt have been no where near as successful without Michael. Jermaine just doesn't have the stage presence or energy that Michael posseses. He's phenomenal
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Reply #37 posted 01/27/06 7:13pm

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Rhondab said:

Marrk said:



Nonsense. The music he made as a kid stands way above any of his antics as an adult (and some of the J5 music is actually better too)

I think the J5 would have been legends even if their career had ended at Motown. Little Michael shouldn't be confused with who we have now.



Yeah...we're talking about legacy though. My daughter only knows weird,crazy looking, "children loving", Michael. No music. What's a thriller? Michael has killed his own legacy with his nonsense.

Yeah you probably shove that down your daughters throat 24/7.... his a freaky wacko and shit. When i was little i didnt need my parents to tell me who MJ was i already knew. I always use to hear my parents talking about his skin change and all but my brother & me only took notice of the music & dancing thats all we cared about. Whats Prince legacy? yeah thats right i dont even have to say anything, rather not anyway might upset some people.

So dont give me this bs nonsense, thats what also made him fascinating people had this image of him as this larger then life figure. He has broken every record imaginable....so dont even worry about his legacy its already secure neutral His the one who masterminded his career no one else did it but himself. The day his gone people wont look back and even remember the rumors but what a legend he was. Michael Jackson is the one who will be missed.....
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Reply #38 posted 01/30/06 4:51am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

In 1972, it was said that Michael would leave the J5 (Not his choice, Motown executives) fo a full fledged solo career. Randy was to be his replacement, and if you noticed in 1972, RAndy started performing with the J5.



a little trivia for ya: In 1973,Michael recorded a solo album that was produced by Stevie Wonder.Motown even picked the first single ("Buttercup"),but for some unknown reason,the album was shelved.To this day,it remains locked somewhere in the Motown vaults.MJ fans should petition to get it released.
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Reply #39 posted 01/30/06 4:26pm

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DavidEye said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

In 1972, it was said that Michael would leave the J5 (Not his choice, Motown executives) fo a full fledged solo career. Randy was to be his replacement, and if you noticed in 1972, RAndy started performing with the J5.



a little trivia for ya: In 1973,Michael recorded a solo album that was produced by Stevie Wonder.Motown even picked the first single ("Buttercup"),but for some unknown reason,the album was shelved.To this day,it remains locked somewhere in the Motown vaults.MJ fans should petition to get it released.



Whats funny is they did get leftovers from the vaults (around 1973 infact) for 1984's "farwell my summer love" (and added those irresistable/irritating overdubs)

I guess motown just didn't ever want them released?
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Reply #40 posted 01/30/06 4:42pm

CinisterCee

DavidEye said:

a little trivia for ya: In 1973,Michael recorded a solo album that was produced by Stevie Wonder.Motown even picked the first single ("Buttercup"),but for some unknown reason,the album was shelved.To this day,it remains locked somewhere in the Motown vaults.MJ fans should petition to get it released.


I know you've mentioned it before but that still blows my mind. omfg
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Reply #41 posted 01/30/06 4:44pm

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CinisterCee said:

DavidEye said:

a little trivia for ya: In 1973,Michael recorded a solo album that was produced by Stevie Wonder.Motown even picked the first single ("Buttercup"),but for some unknown reason,the album was shelved.To this day,it remains locked somewhere in the Motown vaults.MJ fans should petition to get it released.


I know you've mentioned it before but that still blows my mind. omfg



iam glad motown chose the farewell my summer love leftovers instead (well for 4 tracks) Which leads me to beleive, stevie did not want his cuts to be released.
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Reply #42 posted 01/30/06 5:37pm

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Krytonite said:

If Michael didn't exist, do you think the Jackson 5 would have been sucessful with Jermaine as the lead singer?


If Michael didn't exist, The Jackson 4 would have been as successful as the Four Tops. And that's about it. neutral
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Reply #43 posted 02/02/06 3:35am

manthevan

thesexofit said:

DavidEye said:




a little trivia for ya: In 1973,Michael recorded a solo album that was produced by Stevie Wonder.Motown even picked the first single ("Buttercup"),but for some unknown reason,the album was shelved.To this day,it remains locked somewhere in the Motown vaults.MJ fans should petition to get it released.



Whats funny is they did get leftovers from the vaults (around 1973 infact) for 1984's "farwell my summer love" (and added those irresistable/irritating overdubs)

I guess motown just didn't ever want them released?


That is strange, why wouldn't he want them released? After all this was when Michael could sing his ass off...and they have collaborated many times after 1973 confused
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Reply #44 posted 02/02/06 10:42am

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the J5/Michael and Stevie work include:


-Buttercup (Recorded in 1973)

-You’re Supposed To Keep Your Love From Me (Recorded in 1974)

-No News Is Good News (Recorded in 1974)

-A Pretty Face Is / Pretty Faces


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You’re Supposed To Keep Your Love From Me was actually later rerecorded by Jermaine Jackson for his Let's Get Serious LP in 1979.
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Reply #45 posted 02/03/06 3:23am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

the J5/Michael and Stevie work include:


-Buttercup (Recorded in 1973)

-You’re Supposed To Keep Your Love From Me (Recorded in 1974)

-No News Is Good News (Recorded in 1974)

-A Pretty Face Is / Pretty Faces


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You’re Supposed To Keep Your Love From Me was actually later rerecorded by Jermaine Jackson for his Let's Get Serious LP in 1979.




Wow,I wonder why they don't release those songs?
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Reply #46 posted 02/06/06 5:24am

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In order of talent (1 being the best), the order of Jackson family members goes:

1. Michael (he can sing, dance, write and produce and is a brilliant live act)
2. Janet (allright singer, great dancer, great live act)
3. Tito (he has an allright voice, but I mainly appreciate him for his instrumental abilities)
4. Jermaine (allright voice, allright performer)
5. Randy (good voice, mild instrumental abilities, good song-writer and producer)
6. Marlon (Fairly good singer and live act)
7. Rebbie (good singer, but I haven't seen her live so I can't comment)
8. Jackie (he didn't really do much)
9. LaToya (I think she was adopted, or she didn't get the musical genes the other Jackson's inherited from Joe)

Also, I noticed some talk of the attractiveness of the Jackson boys. Look at this picture of them with Janet and minus Jermaine(maybe it was him taking the picture?) in their early adulthood, they are all extremely attractive, and Janet just looks plain cute!


I love how Janet is pointing something out to Michael that she has obviously spotted, but Michael is looking in the complete opposite direction. LOL

Also, looking at this picture and remembering many other late 70's photos I've seen of him, Mike could never get his afro perfectly round. But the other brothers seem to have perfectly shaped afros. I see now why Michael wears wigs, his hair is shite.
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Reply #47 posted 02/06/06 9:47am

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DarlingDiana said:




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My man on the left look like Andre 3000's daddy.

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Reply #48 posted 02/06/06 11:39am

manthevan

DarlingDiana said:

In order of talent (1 being the best), the order of Jackson family members goes:

1. Michael (he can sing, dance, write and produce and is a brilliant live act)
2. Janet (allright singer, great dancer, great live act)
3. Tito (he has an allright voice, but I mainly appreciate him for his instrumental abilities)
4. Jermaine (allright voice, allright performer)
5. Randy (good voice, mild instrumental abilities, good song-writer and producer)
6. Marlon (Fairly good singer and live act)
7. Rebbie (good singer, but I haven't seen her live so I can't comment)
8. Jackie (he didn't really do much)
9. LaToya (I think she was adopted, or she didn't get the musical genes the other Jackson's inherited from Joe)



You're a joke if you claim:

1. Randy and Rebbie have good voices and Jermaine's only got an alright voice, meaning he is at the same level vocally as Tito who you also say has an alright voice. Jermaine was the second best singer in the family. He is the only natural leadsinger besides Michael of the brothers. And in terms of live singing just listen to MSG. He outsung Michael in I'll be there (not saying he is a better singer than MJ though).

2. You complement Tito for his instrumental skills but don't even mention Jermaine's abilities on the bass. I play both guitar and bass and I could play Tito's parts in my sleep although I wouldn't be able to get the groove going with the bass and still manage to sing lead vocals and cope with the choreography like Jermaine did. Tito is an alright guitarplayer for sure but in no way is he more talented than Jermaine if one weighs in all the facts.

3. You say Jackie didn't really do much. Maybe you should check out who wrote or co-wrote many of the songs on Triumph.
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Reply #49 posted 02/06/06 12:06pm

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DarlingDiana said:

In order of talent (1 being the best), the order of Jackson family members goes:

1. Michael (he can sing, dance, write and produce and is a brilliant live act)
2. Janet (allright singer, great dancer, great live act)
3. Tito (he has an allright voice, but I mainly appreciate him for his instrumental abilities)
4. Jermaine (allright voice, allright performer)
5. Randy (good voice, mild instrumental abilities, good song-writer and producer)
6. Marlon (Fairly good singer and live act)
7. Rebbie (good singer, but I haven't seen her live so I can't comment)
8. Jackie (he didn't really do much)
9. LaToya (I think she was adopted, or she didn't get the musical genes the other Jackson's inherited from Joe)

Also, I noticed some talk of the attractiveness of the Jackson boys. Look at this picture of them with Janet and minus Jermaine(maybe it was him taking the picture?) in their early adulthood, they are all extremely attractive, and Janet just looks plain cute!


I love how Janet is pointing something out to Michael that she has obviously spotted, but Michael is looking in the complete opposite direction. LOL

Also, looking at this picture and remembering many other late 70's photos I've seen of him, Mike could never get his afro perfectly round. But the other brothers seem to have perfectly shaped afros. I see now why Michael wears wigs, his hair is shite.


I'm not a male showmanist or whatever you call it, but I would say all the male in the family are more talented then the females, except maybe Janet.

1. Michael (!)
2. Jermaine (Great singer, instrumentalist, writer)
3. Randy (Mike said he is the best instrumentalist in the family)
4. Tito (Good instrumentalist)
5. Jackie (Great writer, arranger)
6. Marlon (Ok writer, arranger)
7. Janet (Great performer, good singer)
8. Reebie (Great singer)
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9. LaToya (Huh?)
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Reply #50 posted 02/06/06 12:12pm

manthevan

LittleBLUECorvette said:

DarlingDiana said:

In order of talent (1 being the best), the order of Jackson family members goes:

1. Michael (he can sing, dance, write and produce and is a brilliant live act)
2. Janet (allright singer, great dancer, great live act)
3. Tito (he has an allright voice, but I mainly appreciate him for his instrumental abilities)
4. Jermaine (allright voice, allright performer)
5. Randy (good voice, mild instrumental abilities, good song-writer and producer)
6. Marlon (Fairly good singer and live act)
7. Rebbie (good singer, but I haven't seen her live so I can't comment)
8. Jackie (he didn't really do much)
9. LaToya (I think she was adopted, or she didn't get the musical genes the other Jackson's inherited from Joe)

Also, I noticed some talk of the attractiveness of the Jackson boys. Look at this picture of them with Janet and minus Jermaine(maybe it was him taking the picture?) in their early adulthood, they are all extremely attractive, and Janet just looks plain cute!


I love how Janet is pointing something out to Michael that she has obviously spotted, but Michael is looking in the complete opposite direction. LOL

Also, looking at this picture and remembering many other late 70's photos I've seen of him, Mike could never get his afro perfectly round. But the other brothers seem to have perfectly shaped afros. I see now why Michael wears wigs, his hair is shite.


I'm not a male showmanist or whatever you call it, but I would say all the male in the family are more talented then the females, except maybe Janet.

1. Michael (!)
2. Jermaine (Great singer, instrumentalist, writer)
3. Randy (Mike said he is the best instrumentalist in the family)
4. Tito (Good instrumentalist)
5. Jackie (Great writer, arranger)
6. Marlon (Ok writer, arranger)
7. Janet (Great performer, good singer)
8. Reebie (Great singer)
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9. LaToya (Huh?)


Yeah this list is definately more savvy although I would never put Janet so far down on the list.
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