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Thread started 01/18/06 12:35am

kinaldo

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Pulp!

funny I haven't listended to them in years but still consider Different Class to be one of my favourite albums and easily one of the best to emerge from the 90s, This is Hardcore was also a smashing album. I guess everyone has forgotten about them by now since they never produced much and were only really big in Britain. Tis a shame cos Jarvis Cocker was a great frontman. He had a Morrissey swagger about him. I really love the videos made for Common People and Disco 2000 I wish they made more like that. Britpop is probably my favorite memory of the 90s.
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Reply #1 posted 01/18/06 4:07am

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worship "Different Class" worship
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Oh, Debra...can you recall.... fart
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I have the "Hits" DVD with all their videos on it. Most of them are really awesome visually. My favorites are "The Trees", "Party hard", "Babies", "This is hardcore" and "Help the aged".
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Reply #5 posted 01/18/06 6:20am

endorphin74

I really joined the Pulp party with Different Class (as did most) an old roomie had His N Hers back in the day, so that was actually my first exposure to Pulp. I stuck with them after that. I even enjoyed We Love Life A LOT. It took me longer to get into that CD, but it finally happened. This Is Hardcore is my favorite. I think it's just a masterpiece. bow


ps, didn't they break-up after the last CD? Or at least announce an indefinate hiatus or sumptin?
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Reply #6 posted 01/18/06 8:08am

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Oh Lord don't even get me started on them. And Jarvis for that matter. drool They have steadily been becoming my 2nd favorite band at the moment after Zeppelin. nod

Love, love, love them! And Jarvis has the sexiest voice ever.

EVER! lol

Geez, I'm starting to sound like Zelaira in my posts now. boxed


Anyway, I have to agree with everything Endo says. This Is Hardcore is amazing and We Love Life is just sublime. nod

I guess Jarvis collaborated on the soundtrack for the latest Harry Potter movie or something. Someone fill me in on the details please, because that's all I know/heard. And he's got a tiny cameo in the movie as well. I didn't see it, but I heard it was only like 2 seconds long.
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Reply #7 posted 01/18/06 8:24am

endorphin74

minneapolisgenius said:

Oh Lord don't even get me started on them. And Jarvis for that matter. drool They have steadily been becoming my 2nd favorite band at the moment after Zeppelin. nod

Love, love, love them! And Jarvis has the sexiest voice ever.

EVER! lol

Geez, I'm starting to sound like Zelaira in my posts now. boxed


Anyway, I have to agree with everything Endo says. This Is Hardcore is amazing and We Love Life is just sublime. nod

I guess Jarvis collaborated on the soundtrack for the latest Harry Potter movie or something. Someone fill me in on the details please, because that's all I know/heard. And he's got a tiny cameo in the movie as well. I didn't see it, but I heard it was only like 2 seconds long.
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He sang in the band that performed at the school dance. lol

One of the Radioheads was in the band as well. And yes, you did get to see them for 2 seconds and hear Jarvis singing thru the scene. I believe the band did 2 or 3 songs for the movie...I never checked if they are on the soundtrack though. hmmm
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Reply #8 posted 01/18/06 8:26am

endorphin74

a few notes from Amazon on the Goblet of Fire soundtrack:

Note that the CD concludes on a jarringly different note with three songs by the Weird Sisters, the group that performs at Hogwarts' Yule Ball. Led by Pulp frontman Jarvis Cocker, the ad hoc band also includes members of Radiohead and Cocker's side project Relaxed Muscle. "Do the Hippogriff" is a fast-paced rocker that somehow comes across like a grungy hybrid of Billy Idol's "White Wedding" and "Dancing with Myself." The other two songs--"This Is the Night" and "Magic Works"--are less obvious, and much better. Still, the contrast between these tracks and the instrumental score that precedes them may not be to everybody's taste.

Product Description:
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, the fourth film (and soundtrack album) in the massively successful Harry Potter franchise-nearly $1 billion in U.S. box office alone-features a score by Academy Award-nominated composer Patrick Doyle and three songs written by modern rocker Jarvis Cocker, and performed by Cocker, Jonny Greenwood, Phil Selway, Steve Claydon and Jason Buckle-with all these musicians also appearing in the movie.


I should SO pick this up. I had meant to after the movie, but forgot ALL about it...
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Reply #9 posted 01/18/06 8:53am

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endorphin74 said:

a few notes from Amazon on the Goblet of Fire soundtrack:

Note that the CD concludes on a jarringly different note with three songs by the Weird Sisters, the group that performs at Hogwarts' Yule Ball. Led by Pulp frontman Jarvis Cocker, the ad hoc band also includes members of Radiohead and Cocker's side project Relaxed Muscle. "Do the Hippogriff" is a fast-paced rocker that somehow comes across like a grungy hybrid of Billy Idol's "White Wedding" and "Dancing with Myself." The other two songs--"This Is the Night" and "Magic Works"--are less obvious, and much better. Still, the contrast between these tracks and the instrumental score that precedes them may not be to everybody's taste.

Product Description:
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, the fourth film (and soundtrack album) in the massively successful Harry Potter franchise-nearly $1 billion in U.S. box office alone-features a score by Academy Award-nominated composer Patrick Doyle and three songs written by modern rocker Jarvis Cocker, and performed by Cocker, Jonny Greenwood, Phil Selway, Steve Claydon and Jason Buckle-with all these musicians also appearing in the movie.


I should SO pick this up. I had meant to after the movie, but forgot ALL about it...

Thanks for those two posts. nod

And yeah, I also need to pick this up! biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 01/18/06 9:01am

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I LOVE PULP!

Anyone who likes them is ALRIGHT with me.

We Love Life is criminally underrated, too.

Great swansong with fabulous tracks comparable to their earlier best.

Anyone who is a fan should also check out the VERY early stuff where Jarvis is just finding his voice along to a drum machine and synths and sings about things like "dogs are everywhere that I go..." he had some funny songs back then.
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Reply #11 posted 01/18/06 9:09am

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mrDespues said:

Anyone who is a fan should also check out the VERY early stuff where Jarvis is just finding his voice along to a drum machine and synths and sings about things like "dogs are everywhere that I go..." he had some funny songs back then.


I have an old greatest hits comp I picked-up from a cut-out bin. But I don't know if I have ever actually listened to it. I guess I should, eh?!
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Reply #12 posted 01/18/06 1:19pm

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I'm watching all the Pulp videos on that YouTube site right now. biggrin

The video for "This Is Hardcore" is one of my all-time favorite videos out of any artist. And I love Jarvis in "Babies". drool And well, all of them I guess. lol Now I'm watching the video for "Razzmatazz".

Did you know that Pulp have been around since 1978 when Jarvis was 15 and formed the band?
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Reply #13 posted 01/18/06 1:31pm

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And one more thing: You HAVE to see the video for "Bad Cover Version" if you haven't seen it yet. It's all these celebrity impersonators singing Pulp's song "Bad Cover Version". So it's a bad cover version of "Bad Cover Version" in "We Are the World" style.. falloff

Sorry if this is way old news, but I hadn't seen it until just now. And then there's Jarvis at the end as Brian May. falloff

http://www.youtube.com/w/...ch=pulp%20
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Reply #14 posted 01/18/06 1:33pm

endorphin74

I NEED TO LEAVE WORK AND CHECK OUT THAT WEBSITE!

lol
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Reply #15 posted 01/18/06 1:37pm

minneapolisgen
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endorphin74 said:

I NEED TO LEAVE WORK AND CHECK OUT THAT WEBSITE!

lol

YOU DO! Do it now!!!! lol
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Reply #16 posted 01/19/06 2:32am

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This thread needs pics of course.... biggrin













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Reply #17 posted 01/19/06 5:27am

endorphin74

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PRETTY!!!!
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Reply #18 posted 01/19/06 5:31am

endorphin74

minneapolisgenius said:

And one more thing: You HAVE to see the video for "Bad Cover Version" if you haven't seen it yet. It's all these celebrity impersonators singing Pulp's song "Bad Cover Version". So it's a bad cover verison of "Bad Cover Version" in "We Are the World" style.. falloff

Sorry if this is way old news, but I hadn't seen it until just now. And then there's Jarvis at the end as Brian May. falloff

http://www.youtube.com/w/...ch=pulp%20


OH

MY

GOD


that video is friggin HIGH-larious!
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endorphin74 said:

minneapolisgenius said:

And one more thing: You HAVE to see the video for "Bad Cover Version" if you haven't seen it yet. It's all these celebrity impersonators singing Pulp's song "Bad Cover Version". So it's a bad cover verison of "Bad Cover Version" in "We Are the World" style.. falloff

Sorry if this is way old news, but I hadn't seen it until just now. And then there's Jarvis at the end as Brian May. falloff

http://www.youtube.com/w/...ch=pulp%20


OH

MY

GOD


that video is friggin HIGH-larious!

lol I know. I watched it 3 times last night. lol I love the guy who does Jay Kay. falloff
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Reply #20 posted 01/19/06 9:01am

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Just quoted myself by mistake edit

doh!
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Reply #21 posted 01/19/06 9:06am

endorphin74

minneapolisgenius said:

Just quoted myself by mistake edit

doh!
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falloff

DORK!

ps, good work people, I thought this thread would have disappeared by now...what other Pulp stories can we share?
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Reply #22 posted 01/19/06 9:20am

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endorphin74 said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Just quoted myself by mistake edit

doh!
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falloff

DORK!

ps, good work people, I thought this thread would have disappeared by now...what other Pulp stories can we share?

doh!

I don't know....I can pinpoint the exact moment when I realized I had a huge crush on Jarvis though. nod I was watching the video for "This Is Hardcore", and when it got to the part where he walks through all those Busby Berkeley-type showgirls, something just snapped in my brain. giggle

I've never been the same since. biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 01/19/06 9:36am

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Yeah, that part with the showgirls is just breathtaking. My favorite video is "The Trees" though because the dancing scenes somehow remind me of the "Running up that Hill" Video by Kate Bush and because it looks so tasteful and arty. And I just love that song music
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Reply #24 posted 01/19/06 9:52am

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theplejades said:

Yeah, that part with the showgirls is just breathtaking. My favorite video is "The Trees" though because the dancing scenes somehow remind me of the "Running up that Hill" Video by Kate Bush and because it looks so tasteful and arty. And I just love that song music

nod

I love "The Trees" the song, but I haven't seen the video. I'll look and see if it's on YouTube though. biggrin
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Reply #25 posted 01/19/06 11:11am

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common people is my favorite and i really like this lyric

Rent a flat above a shop,
cut your hair and get a job.
Smoke some fags and play some pool,
pretend you never went to school.
dancing jig
Guess that I'll stay at home
All alone and play my tamborine
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Reply #26 posted 01/19/06 11:18am

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Nichola said:

common people is my favorite and i really like this lyric

Rent a flat above a shop,
cut your hair and get a job.
Smoke some fags and play some pool,
pretend you never went to school.
dancing jig

biggrin

She came from Greece she had a thirst for knowledge,
she studied sculpture at Saint Martin's College,
that's where I,
caught her eye.
She told me that her Dad was loaded,
I said "In that case I'll have a rum and coca-cola."
She said "Fine."
and in thirty seconds time she said,

"I want to live like common people,
I want to do whatever common people do,
I want to sleep with common people,
I want to sleep with common people,
like you."

Well what else could I do -
I said "I'll see what I can do."


I took her to a supermarket,
I don't know why but I had to start it somewhere,
so it started there. biggrin
I said pretend you've got no money,
she just laughed and said,
"Oh you're so funny."
I said "yeah?
Well I can't see anyone else smiling in here.


Are you sure you want to live like common people,
you want to see whatever common people see,
you want to sleep with common people,
you want to sleep with common people,
like me."
But she didn't understand,
she just smiled and held my hand.

Rent a flat above a shop,
cut your hair and get a job.
Smoke some fags and play some pool,
pretend you never went to school.
But still you'll never get it right,
cos when you're laid in bed at night,
watching roaches climb the wall,
if you call your Dad he could stop it all.

You'll never live like common people,
you'll never do what common people do,
you'll never fail like common people,
you'll never watch your life slide out of view,
and dance and drink and screw,
because there's nothing else to do.

Sing along with the common people,
sing along and it might just get you through,
laugh along with the common people,
laugh along even though they're laughing at you,
and the stupid things that you do.
Because you think that poor is cool.

I want to live with common people,
I want to live with common people etc...
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Reply #27 posted 01/19/06 11:25am

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I just found this analysis of the lyrics to Common People at this site about great lyrics (as you can see by the title below lol )

David Birde’s Guide to GREAT LYRICS, part 210
Posted by anders in Great Lyrics Guide

Song: Common People
Artist: Pulp
Music: Pulp
Lyrics: Jarvis Cocker
Album: A Different Class
Recorded: 1995
Genre: Class war


She comes from Greece with a thirst for knowledge which she satisfies through sculpture studies at St. Martins College. This is where Jarvis Cocker, the singer from Pulp, catches her eye.

She tells him that her father is rich and Jarvis’ snotty reply is: ”In that case I’ll have rum and Coca Cola”. She gladly accepts and half a minute later she lets him in on her secret wish: To try the life of the ”common” people. She even goes as far as to express a wish to sleep with someone common - him for example.
Jarvis is rather shocked by her suggestion and stutters: ”I… I’ll se what I can do…”

”I took her to a supermarket - I don’t know why but I had to start it somewhere. So it started - there.
I said: Pretend you’ve got no money. She just laughed and said: Ha - you’re so funny! I said: Yeah…?
I can’t see anyone else smiling in here… (Whispered): Are you sure…?

This whisper is surely the single most chilling moment in the history of britpop (not much competition I know, but anyway…) He manages to squeeze in a number of emotions in these three whispered words: They’re flirty - he is attracted to her and the possibility to have sex with this beatutiful lady is still rather tempting.
At the same time the whisper ooze of despise. He is disgusted by her because she thinks that ”poor is cool” and he is even more disgusted by himself for actually playing along with her.
This is is the turning point of the song. Jarvis has made up his mind, there won’t be no more romance.
Gone is the smoothe voice, the drinking and the joking. The remaining four minutes diplays an affected Jarvis, lecturing this poor little rich girl about the real world, a place that she will never be able to experience.
And what a lecture it is:

”Rent a flat above a shop - cut your hair and get a job - smoke some fags and play some pool - pretend you never went to school - but still you’ll never get it right - ’cause when you’re laid in bed at night - watching roaches climb the wall - if you called your dad he could stop it all yeah…”

There is no information available about the greek sculpture student’s reaction to this tsunami of loathing but I guess the only reasonable reply would be something like: ”Yeah, well ok, guess I’ll see you in the cafeteria some time…”

David Birde

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Reply #28 posted 01/19/06 12:05pm

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I liked pulp... they be very good.

I like 'Help The Aged'
'Trees' and
'Do You Remember The First Time'
JaneyPoos used to be it... then they changed what it was. Now what I am isn't it and what is it is strange and frightening to me...


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Reply #29 posted 01/19/06 12:12pm

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JaneyPoos said:

I liked pulp... they be very good.

I like 'Help The Aged'
'Trees' and
'Do You Remember The First Time'

Hi Janey. wave

Yeah, those are all great. I seriously think that "Do You Remember the First Time" is one of my favorite songs ever. nod I listen to it over and over again and never get sick of it.
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