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Thread started 01/18/06 9:54pm

jasonstar

Lets settle this..What was up with Michael at his tribute show?

Before the trial...Michael performed his big tribute concert with people like Nsync and Usher and Whitney doing tributes, then the Jackson 5 reunited, and then the man himself took the stage to perform. It should have been his best performance in years. It wasn't.

He looked out of it.. eek and/or tired.

While some of his moves were sharp, he was kind of off.

He kept holding his face, or head-mic, and touching it. I remember watching the show with someone and I believe they said, "Why does he keep putting his hand there?"

Some fans say it was due to his lips just have gotten work done to them, or something. However, I don't know if I buy this.

While it was an exciting concert I'm sure to attend (believe me I wish I could have been there - from everyone who has been there, it seems like at times, they were disapointed.)

So once and for all, people who were there, or people who saw it on TV, lets talk about this and try to figure it out.

And please don't turn this into a "Michael is a child abuser" or "looks like a freak thread." I'm really interested in the topic of this thread, and know, lots of Michael fans and observers, float around prince.org - so please just respect this for me. Thank you!
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Reply #1 posted 01/18/06 10:15pm

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For some tracks, I think he was lip syncing. Mike has never been a good lip syncer, even since the J5 days. I think MArlon said in an interview, "Mike was terrible at lip syncing".
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Reply #2 posted 01/18/06 11:03pm

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He was covering his out of sync lipsyncing with Nsync
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Reply #3 posted 01/19/06 1:20am

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There was something wrong with Mike that night. He obviously wasn´t feeling well.
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Reply #4 posted 01/19/06 2:26am

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dag said:

There was something wrong with Mike that night. He obviously wasn´t feeling well.



He was on painkillers, remember....strung out...
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Reply #5 posted 01/19/06 8:00am

jasonstar

murph said:

dag said:

There was something wrong with Mike that night. He obviously wasn´t feeling well.



He was on painkillers, remember....strung out...


This I believe (in the old man voice from The Whole Ten Yards)
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Reply #6 posted 01/19/06 8:18am

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lol The question everyone had. I went to both shows and there was a slight difference in energy level during the second one but that whole mouth thing was a real distraction. Some of the back up dancers said he kept putting his hand to his mouth when he talked like he was trying to hide it or obviously self-conscious. That also made his lip synching difficult. If it wasn't pain killer issues I'm sure he had to be bummed that on his biggest most hyped nights in the U.S. his mouth was almost paralyzed. The hair was yet another issue.
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Reply #7 posted 01/19/06 9:42am

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I thought, on the whole, he did an alright job at the shows. With that said, he did look either strung out on pills or like he was suffering from a cold. And the whole covering the mouth thing was damn distracting. I always attributed it to lipsynching

BTW, his performance with Britney Spears sucked. Mike did a good job, but Britney's vocals made the song suffer. She sounded like Minnie Mouse with Strep throat(if thats how u spell it)
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Reply #8 posted 01/19/06 10:04am

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i had the misfortune of seeing him at the "What More Can I Give" Concert in D.C a few years back and it should have been called "How Long Do I Have To Wait" concert. We waited almost eleven hours to see him come out on a crane and mouth the words. He covered his mouth so we wouldn't notice. But it was pretty obvious.
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Reply #9 posted 01/19/06 10:27am

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i always assumed it had something had to do with his nose coming off.
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Reply #10 posted 01/19/06 2:57pm

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newskin69 said:

I thought, on the whole, he did an alright job at the shows. With that said, he did look either strung out on pills or like he was suffering from a cold. And the whole covering the mouth thing was damn distracting. I always attributed it to lipsynching

BTW, his performance with Britney Spears sucked. Mike did a good job, but Britney's vocals made the song suffer. She sounded like Minnie Mouse with Strep throat(if thats how u spell it)

I always attributed it to that giant red rash like thing that showed up on his face. It didn't look very good and I'm sure he noticed it and was embarrased. He never did that before when he was lip-syching, so I'm guessing it was the red-blotchy thing. He looked like a clown that couldn't get all of his make-up off
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Reply #11 posted 01/19/06 3:03pm

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PurpleRighteous1 said:

newskin69 said:

I thought, on the whole, he did an alright job at the shows. With that said, he did look either strung out on pills or like he was suffering from a cold. And the whole covering the mouth thing was damn distracting. I always attributed it to lipsynching

BTW, his performance with Britney Spears sucked. Mike did a good job, but Britney's vocals made the song suffer. She sounded like Minnie Mouse with Strep throat(if thats how u spell it)

I always attributed it to that giant red rash like thing that showed up on his face. It didn't look very good and I'm sure he noticed it and was embarrased. He never did that before when he was lip-syching, so I'm guessing it was the red-blotchy thing. He looked like a clown that couldn't get all of his make-up off


This man has been using make up since 1980 something..(Hello Bad music video..Michael went alittle heavy on the pancake makeup look.) So if it was a problem of not being able to cover up something, why not just use makeup?

I mean..I was watching the HIStory concert tour awhile back on VHS, and then afterwords watched his 30th anniversary performance, and remember thinking, "If only it would have went like the HIStory tour." It would have been a lot better...either way he lip synched..at least on the HIStory tour..his dancing and "overall appearance" wasn't that of someone who was worn out/on pain killers/or tired/ or all.
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Reply #12 posted 01/19/06 3:07pm

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PurpleRighteous1 said:

newskin69 said:

I thought, on the whole, he did an alright job at the shows. With that said, he did look either strung out on pills or like he was suffering from a cold. And the whole covering the mouth thing was damn distracting. I always attributed it to lipsynching

BTW, his performance with Britney Spears sucked. Mike did a good job, but Britney's vocals made the song suffer. She sounded like Minnie Mouse with Strep throat(if thats how u spell it)

I always attributed it to that giant red rash like thing that showed up on his face. It didn't look very good and I'm sure he noticed it and was embarrased. He never did that before when he was lip-syching, so I'm guessing it was the red-blotchy thing. He looked like a clown that couldn't get all of his make-up off

He has discoid lupus. That's what it's all down to.
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Reply #13 posted 01/19/06 3:12pm

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He has discoid lupus. That's what it's all down to.


I realize you are "in the know" in MJ's world, which is awesome, and I even looked up the "discoid lupus" and a lot of the "signs" check out with Michael. However, I was just curious, if you had a source for this, of it was just an educated guess.? hmm
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Reply #14 posted 01/19/06 3:19pm

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Ellie said:

PurpleRighteous1 said:


I always attributed it to that giant red rash like thing that showed up on his face. It didn't look very good and I'm sure he noticed it and was embarrased. He never did that before when he was lip-syching, so I'm guessing it was the red-blotchy thing. He looked like a clown that couldn't get all of his make-up off

He has discoid lupus. That's what it's all down to.

Well I was unaware of this. I still think that was the reason he kept covering his mouth. I know he could've used make-up but my guess is that he didn't have the time to get enough make-up on to cover that up. It was pretty obvious and I think he was attempting to cover it, at least more often then the audience would have to see it.
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Reply #15 posted 01/19/06 3:53pm

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He looked like he was holding his jaw on.
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Reply #16 posted 01/19/06 4:02pm

jasonstar

theVelvetRoper said:

He looked like he was holding his jaw on.


Yeah, and his facial expression at times looked like he was in physical pain of some kind. It didn't help that he was sweating a lot and wearing white - so the sweat really showed.
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Reply #17 posted 01/19/06 4:49pm

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ehuffnsd said:

i always assumed it had something had to do with his nose coming off.




I don't know if you're joking or not, but this is honestly what I assumed he was doing. I thought, he must feel his prosthetic nose coming loose. lol

I also saw some areas of brown skin around his moth that I thought he was trying to cover up.
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Reply #18 posted 01/20/06 5:08am

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Ellie said:

He has discoid lupus. That's what it's all down to.


You can see it quite clearly making a mess of his hands from time to time.
It can also create ulcers in the nose and mouth.
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Reply #19 posted 01/20/06 5:16am

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jasonstar said:

Ellie said:

He has discoid lupus. That's what it's all down to.


I realize you are "in the know" in MJ's world, which is awesome, and I even looked up the "discoid lupus" and a lot of the "signs" check out with Michael. However, I was just curious, if you had a source for this, of it was just an educated guess.? hmm

Straight from Jermaine's mouth and court papers.
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Reply #20 posted 01/20/06 5:20am

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I remember this horrible show, I kept thinking
"Wooooow, they should've cancelled this effort." All the celebrities looked over worked and drugged out. Even the audience was looking crazy.
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Reply #21 posted 01/20/06 5:23am

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Liza was hilarious though. I seriously couldn't prepare people for how bad her performance was, and when I showed them their jaws just dropped to the floor lol
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Reply #22 posted 01/20/06 5:52am

jasonstar

Ellie said:

jasonstar said:



I realize you are "in the know" in MJ's world, which is awesome, and I even looked up the "discoid lupus" and a lot of the "signs" check out with Michael. However, I was just curious, if you had a source for this, of it was just an educated guess.? hmm

Straight from Jermaine's mouth and court papers.


Which court papers? This would be interesting to read..
Thanks for the info BTW.
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Reply #23 posted 01/20/06 6:06am

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The man could barely move his mouth going all the way back to his instore signing. It was like a bad botox reaction or something. That big smile was missing for months.
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Reply #24 posted 01/20/06 7:31am

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It's still sort of missing. Never been the same again since 2001 anyway.

Oh, the lupus thing definitely came from Jermaine. I have that interview on tape from the "MJ's Face" doc on Channel 5 - the one that all the US networks tried to copy afterwards.

Actually, the court papers I think only confirm Vitiligo when Debbie and his dermatologist had to testify for the Grand Jury in 1994.
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