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Thread started 01/17/06 10:53am

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Z Cult Fave/"Strawberry Letter #23" - Shuggie's or The Bros. Johnson?

This song is DEFINATELY one of my all-time top 5 songs by anyone. The lyrics are sublime. They're perfect. I've had the lyrics framed and hanging on my wall for years now. Of course when I was little, I heard the Bros. Johnson's version first. I had their album with it on there. When I turned 12, I got hip to Shuggie and discovered that he was the o.g. He, right away became one of my fave artists. Anyways, in light of Pali's Brothers Johnsons thread, which version do ya'll prefer?
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Reply #1 posted 01/17/06 11:05am

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I always like to choose the original but in this case I'll give credit to The Johnsons , cause I did not know the song was a cover until I bought Shuggie's CD reissue .
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Reply #2 posted 01/17/06 11:06am

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All respect to Shuggie but the The Bros. Johnson's version is my favorite. Like you, this is probably one of my favorite songs ever.
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Reply #3 posted 01/17/06 11:06am

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Although The Brothers Johnson have a better produced version, i'll go with the more understated Shuggie Otis version.


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Reply #4 posted 01/17/06 11:14am

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Tough call, but I will have to go with Shuggie's version. But I love the Bros. Johnson's version as well.
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Reply #5 posted 01/17/06 11:19am

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I Love'em both...I guess I'll go with The Brothers Johnson version, because of the arrangement...and I thought it was an interesting idea for Quincy and the Bros.(and Lee) to put the guitar solo in the middle of the song, rather than at the end, like Shuggie's original...On the other hand, I love the airy, dreamlike feel of Shuggie's version, especially at the end...


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Reply #6 posted 01/17/06 1:36pm

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paligap said:

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I Love'em both...I guess I'll go with The Brothers Johnson version, because of the arrangement...and I thought it was an interesting idea for Quincy and the Bros.(and Lee) to put the guitar solo in the middle of the song, rather than at the end, like Shuggie's original...On the other hand, I love the airy, dreamlike feel of Shuggie's version, especially at the end...


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I like the solo in the middle section as well, although I UNDERSTAND Shuggie's arrangement. Growing up with Louis and George's version, there is a sentimental attachment to theirs. But, cuz I adore Shuggie and the mindset he was in to even write something that beautiful in the first place, I MUST go with his version.
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Reply #7 posted 01/17/06 4:37pm

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I'm going with The Bros. J version..Louis' bass is just THUMPIN' all over it. Lee Ritenour does a nice solo on it too. But Shuggie did create it, and his version does have that nice "70's airy-psychedlic soul" feel to it. Both LP's are great.
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Reply #8 posted 01/17/06 9:39pm

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Shuggie...no contest...the whole carousel vibe at the very beginning of the Bros. Johnson version just irritates me...I think its cause it reminds me of the Tevin Campbell version which makes my ears bleed and my stomach turn...and there is something about the guitar solo in the Bros. J version that just says "STYX" that I dont get from Shuggie (and thats a good thing)...
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Reply #9 posted 01/17/06 10:29pm

Zelaira

Brother's Johnson. Never heard Shuggie only Tevin;s and no the ORIGINAL is my pick.
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Reply #10 posted 01/17/06 10:48pm

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I love Tevin Campbell's version and I have that re-mix CD! I also love M. C. Hammer's version of that song "A Soldier's Letter" on his last CD, like 3 or 4 years ago.

If you will pray and wait for me
I'll do my best to make it back to you
Cause I love you
I love you

Very worthy of checking that one out.
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Reply #11 posted 01/17/06 11:46pm

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That's a hard one. I like the production of the Brothers Johnson version-- it's funkier-- but I think Shuggie's best expresses the vibe appropriate for the lyrics. It really depends on my mood.
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Reply #12 posted 01/17/06 11:49pm

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Johnny Otis's son. thumbs up!
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Reply #13 posted 01/18/06 12:11am

funkpill

Like em' both...

But my vote is The Brothers Johnson... biggrin
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Reply #14 posted 01/18/06 2:57am

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I've never heard the Shuggie Otis version boxed
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Reply #15 posted 01/18/06 10:54am

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SPYZFAN1 said:

I'm going with The Bros. J version..Louis' bass is just THUMPIN' all over it. Lee Ritenour does a nice solo on it too. But Shuggie did create it, and his version does have that nice "70's airy-psychedlic soul" feel to it. Both LP's are great.

Yep. Lee's solo is very cool. That made the song for me when I was little.
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Reply #16 posted 01/18/06 10:56am

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PurpleHeeler said:

Shuggie...no contest...the whole carousel vibe at the very beginning of the Bros. Johnson version just irritates me...I think its cause it reminds me of the Tevin Campbell version which makes my ears bleed and my stomach turn...and there is something about the guitar solo in the Bros. J version that just says "STYX" that I dont get from Shuggie (and thats a good thing)...

Oh hell no! Tevin?! I forgot all about that cat. That shit doesn't even count.
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Reply #17 posted 01/18/06 11:02am

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blackguitaristz said:



Oh hell no! Tevin?! That shit doesn't even count.




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Reply #18 posted 01/18/06 1:49pm

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I go for Bros Johnson version because it was one the first 45's (for old schoolers) that I ever owned. It is one of my favorite songs of all time. Love the production, the solo, LJ's bass and I remember the 45 being strawberry colored. Anyone else remember that?
But on the other hand I like Shuggie's version as well and he wrote it. But if I had to choose I go for Bros Johnson.
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Reply #19 posted 01/18/06 3:43pm

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Bfunkthe1 said:

I go for Bros Johnson version because it was one the first 45's (for old schoolers) that I ever owned. It is one of my favorite songs of all time. Love the production, the solo, LJ's bass and I remember the 45 being strawberry colored. Anyone else remember that?
But on the other hand I like Shuggie's version as well and he wrote it. But if I had to choose I go for Bros Johnson.

Do I remember that? Hell player, I have a mint condition 12' of the song in red wax.
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Reply #20 posted 01/18/06 11:54pm

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Bfunkthe1 said:

I go for Bros Johnson version because it was one the first 45's (for old schoolers) that I ever owned. It is one of my favorite songs of all time. Love the production, the solo, LJ's bass and I remember the 45 being strawberry colored. Anyone else remember that?
But on the other hand I like Shuggie's version as well and he wrote it. But if I had to choose I go for Bros Johnson.

Do I remember that? Hell player, I have a mint condition 12' of the song in red wax.



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Reply #21 posted 01/18/06 11:57pm

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This is a great song! biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 01/19/06 10:47am

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blackguitaristz said:

Bfunkthe1 said:

I go for Bros Johnson version because it was one the first 45's (for old schoolers) that I ever owned. It is one of my favorite songs of all time. Love the production, the solo, LJ's bass and I remember the 45 being strawberry colored. Anyone else remember that?
But on the other hand I like Shuggie's version as well and he wrote it. But if I had to choose I go for Bros Johnson.

Do I remember that? Hell player, I have a mint condition 12' of the song in red wax.

Nice.I wish I still had mine. I only had the 45 though not the 12'.
That's gotta be worth some loot, but who cares it's priceless anyway you look at it.
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Reply #23 posted 01/19/06 11:45am

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Bfunkthe1 said:

blackguitaristz said:


Do I remember that? Hell player, I have a mint condition 12' of the song in red wax.

Nice.I wish I still had mine. I only had the 45 though not the 12'.
That's gotta be worth some loot, but who cares it's priceless anyway you look at it.


I got that red 12 inch, too...I've got a picture of it, on the Brothers Johnson thread:

http://www.prince.org/msg/8/174475


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Reply #24 posted 01/19/06 1:27pm

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I've never heard the Shuggie Otis version boxed

omg vhaaaaat???

...and i choose the brothers johnson's version. shuggie's is okay too, but i dig the bros' better.



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