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Thread started 01/18/06 1:41pm

MikeMatronik

Women in MJ's music

I've been paying some attention in2 MJ's music these last few weeks. Last night I listened to "The Ultimate Collection" before going to sleep. Apart from being on the best boxsets ever, I was intrigued by the way MJ's aproaches women in his music.

There's an uncanny duality between platonic love and sexual desire. Usually sexual desire and female seduction is portrated as a damaging or even "dangerous" stuff. Also I sense MJ's craves for sexual women...An almost hidden desire for women!

How does the rest of the .org views this?

And please no boys jokes! Let's keep this a serious thread! I don't to receive an orgnote because I flamed someone in selfdefense (Sorry again, Tom!)
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Reply #1 posted 01/18/06 1:59pm

Ellie

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I think it's all summed up in one line:

"SIDDOWN GIRL, I think I LOVE you. NO! GETTUP GIRL, show me what you can do!"
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Reply #2 posted 01/18/06 2:11pm

MichaelsLight

Yeah TUC does kick ass.

I was listening to In The Closet(not on TUC), and I had to catch myself because I was thinking how could Michael Jackson make such a sexual song. After hearing too many ridiculous comments about his sexuality, I started feeding into it. That has passed, and if you listen to many of his songs, there is a sort of yearning there; companionship, love, sex..., he's a man whether people want to accept it or not

And on a different note, is 2000 watts about sex???
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Reply #3 posted 01/18/06 2:11pm

CinisterCee

MJ's music sounds like:

MJ wants to get his dick wet, but women are all villians.
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Reply #4 posted 01/18/06 2:28pm

Ellie

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MichaelsLight said:


And on a different note, is 2000 watts about sex???

Yes.
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Reply #5 posted 01/18/06 2:30pm

CinisterCee

I think everyone's interpretation of MJ's lyrics will be a bit like a Rorschach test.
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Reply #6 posted 01/18/06 2:34pm

carlcranshaw

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Susie and Annie catch hell in MJ's songs.
‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #7 posted 01/18/06 2:39pm

CinisterCee

carlcranshaw said:

Susie and Annie catch hell in MJ's songs.

lol
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Reply #8 posted 01/18/06 2:44pm

butterfli25

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carlcranshaw said:

Susie and Annie catch hell in MJ's songs.

yes but who are they?????



falloff


I agree though i think mike has some unfulfilled sexual desires because of his lack of emotional maturity. so he's stuck at sex is dirty and it comes out in his music.
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Reply #9 posted 01/18/06 3:07pm

CinisterCee

butterfli25 said:


I agree though i think mike has some unfulfilled sexual desires because of his lack of emotional maturity. so he's stuck at sex is dirty and it comes out in his music.


ooh. so true.
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Reply #10 posted 01/18/06 3:38pm

CinisterCee

Thread coming next:

Men in Janet's music.
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Reply #11 posted 01/18/06 7:32pm

MichaelsLight

Ellie said:

MichaelsLight said:


And on a different note, is 2000 watts about sex???

Yes.


I figured so...thank you biggrin

and even though I hate this song...goesofftolistentoit music
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Reply #12 posted 01/19/06 1:08am

dag

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"SIDDOWN GIRL, I think I LOVE you. NO! GETTUP GIRL, show me what you can do!"
falloff

There are more songs about sex.

Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
Lovely Is The Feelin' Now
Fever, Temperatures Risin' Now
Power (Ah Power) Is The Force The Vow That Makes It Happen It Asks No Questions Why (Ooh)
So Get Closer (Closer Now)
To My Body Now Just Love Me
'Til You Don't Know How (Ooh)

[Chorus]
Keep On With The Force Don't Stop
Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough

Touch Me And I Feel On Fire
Ain't Nothin' Like A Love Desire (Ooh)
I'm Melting (I'm Melting)
Like Hot Candle Wax Sensation (Ah Sensation)
Lovely Where We're At (Ooh)
So Let Love Take Us Through The Hours
I Won't Be Complanin'
'Cause This Is Love Power (Ooh)

[Chorus]

Heartbreak Enemy Despise
Eternal (Ah Eternal)
Love Shines In My Eyes (Ooh)
So Let Love Take Us Through The Hours
I Won't Be Complanin' (No No)
'Cause Your Love Is Alright, Alright

[Chorus]



Superfly sister is quite "interesting" as well.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #13 posted 01/19/06 1:11am

MikeMatronik

dag said:

"SIDDOWN GIRL, I think I LOVE you. NO! GETTUP GIRL, show me what you can do!"
falloff

There are more songs about sex.

Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
Lovely Is The Feelin' Now
Fever, Temperatures Risin' Now
Power (Ah Power) Is The Force The Vow That Makes It Happen It Asks No Questions Why (Ooh)
So Get Closer (Closer Now)
To My Body Now Just Love Me
'Til You Don't Know How (Ooh)

[Chorus]
Keep On With The Force Don't Stop
Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough

Touch Me And I Feel On Fire
Ain't Nothin' Like A Love Desire (Ooh)
I'm Melting (I'm Melting)
Like Hot Candle Wax Sensation (Ah Sensation)
Lovely Where We're At (Ooh)
So Let Love Take Us Through The Hours
I Won't Be Complanin'
'Cause This Is Love Power (Ooh)

[Chorus]

Heartbreak Enemy Despise
Eternal (Ah Eternal)
Love Shines In My Eyes (Ooh)
So Let Love Take Us Through The Hours
I Won't Be Complanin' (No No)
'Cause Your Love Is Alright, Alright

[Chorus]



Superfly sister is quite "interesting" as well.


That song always remembers me of the Bee-Gees
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Reply #14 posted 01/19/06 6:06am

Novabreaker

C'mon. The guy is an absolute porn freak, the court case should have proven that, of course he is just one horny motherfucker. No matter if he really gets into sex that much or not.
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Reply #15 posted 01/20/06 12:16am

meow85

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CinisterCee said:

I think everyone's interpretation of MJ's lyrics will be a bit like a Rorschach test.

People's interpretation of Michael could be taken as a Rorschach test.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #16 posted 01/20/06 12:48am

dag

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People's interpretation of Michael could be taken as a Rorschach test.

yeah, I think Michael is the only one who has been considered to be everything sexually (heterosexual, gay, pedophile, asexual, transsexual - whatever).
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #17 posted 01/20/06 1:04am

Cheek

Mikey sings about only one girl in his songs and she is the Man in the Mirror also know as the Liberian Girl! smile
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Reply #18 posted 01/20/06 1:18am

meow85

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dag said:

People's interpretation of Michael could be taken as a Rorschach test.

yeah, I think Michael is the only one who has been considered to be everything sexually (heterosexual, gay, pedophile, asexual, transsexual - whatever).

I certainly can't think of anyone else with every potential sexual rumour flying around their head.


I admit for a while I found myself buying the asexual guess, mostly because I tried to picture Michael having sex and I couldn't. lol

After hearing about the sheer size and amount of his porn stash though... eek Even if he's not getting any he's definitely got a healthy appetite!

razz
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #19 posted 01/20/06 1:29am

IstenSzek

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Cheek said:

Mikey sings about only one girl in his songs and she is the Man in the Mirror also know as the Liberian Girl! smile



nice and subtle

smile
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #20 posted 01/20/06 1:35am

Cheek

IstenSzek said:

Cheek said:

Mikey sings about only one girl in his songs and she is the Man in the Mirror also know as the Liberian Girl! smile



nice and subtle

smile


I mean he sings about himself! smile
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Reply #21 posted 01/20/06 1:43am

dag

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I admit for a while I found myself buying the asexual guess, mostly because I tried to picture Michael having sex and I couldn't.

After hearing about the sheer size and amount of his porn stash though... Even if he's not getting any he's definitely got a healthy appetite!

you´re not the only one

Diane Saywer: Agan, you can slug me on this question, but these were like romantic nights?
Lisa Marie Presley :Yeah, I don´t remember them very well, but yes. I wasn´t gonna get married if it wasn´t that! But see, than it was like wanting to get married...so I don´tknow if it was...you know...like I even remember thinking "how was that gonna happen?"..you know...I can´t even imagine him with that and than he quickly dissilusioned me about that idea.

http://www.jetzi.cjb.net/

Diane Sawer interview - part two.

Pity I don´t know how to put a video together of different footages and put it online, cause I could show you him flirting with women. You know how on TV you always see only footage of him with kids to suggest he´s a pedophile. There could definately be a video done to suggest that he like´s women *very* much.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #22 posted 01/20/06 1:49am

IstenSzek

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Cheek said:

IstenSzek said:




nice and subtle

smile


I mean he sings about himself! smile


and about Elizabeth Tailor

sexy
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #23 posted 01/20/06 1:49am

Cheek

IstenSzek said:

Cheek said:



I mean he sings about himself! smile


and about Elizabeth Tailor

sexy


Elizabeth Thriller rolleyes
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Reply #24 posted 01/20/06 1:51am

IstenSzek

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Cheek said:

IstenSzek said:



and about Elizabeth Tailor

sexy


Elizabeth Thriller rolleyes


I heard that she's the mother of MJ's children

nod
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Reply #25 posted 01/20/06 1:55am

Cheek

IstenSzek said:

I heard that she's the mother of MJ's children

nod


I heard MJ has born Elizabeth's children! smile
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Reply #26 posted 01/20/06 1:57am

IstenSzek

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Cheek said:

IstenSzek said:

I heard that she's the mother of MJ's children

nod


I heard MJ has born Elizabeth's children! smile



i guess that might be possible. he did have room
for a baby i guess after his ribs were removed..

hmmm
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #27 posted 01/20/06 2:00am

Cheek

IstenSzek said:

i guess that might be possible. he did have room
for a baby i guess after his ribs were removed..

hmmm


lol
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Reply #28 posted 01/20/06 2:43am

IstenSzek

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Cheek said:

IstenSzek said:

i guess that might be possible. he did have room
for a baby i guess after his ribs were removed..

hmmm


lol


i find it very hard to riff a threadjack off an MJ topic though

there is just so little to ridicule about this man. it's hard neutral
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #29 posted 01/20/06 3:29am

Cheek

IstenSzek said:

neutral


smile
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