You know what is so funny? I find the women who give curvy girls hell are usually very skinny and pretty much have nothing. They cling on to the high fashion ideal which is a very boyish thing and just say chic this and chic that and everyone eles is fat and blah blah blah...but the truth is ALOT of men would find Mariah's body much more appealing than Kate Moss'. Seriously I just pay attention at my work at how other girls can be. It's mostly the women with an hour glass figure with boobs and butt that are making the money the easiest and it is always the stick thin "model" types that are bitching about how fat she is and siting on their asses making no money. They just act like they are so lithe and superior because they are insecure.

Now that we got that out of the way...what's been going on Katty?...how is the MJboard folks?...Tell Ben and X I said what's up...
[Edited 1/22/06 21:21pm]

I said curves (meaning hips and thighs)...I didn't say nothing about ass (LOL)

You're saying she's not fat, but she is to me. Her stomach isn't all that big, but it'll get there if she keeps eatin' them Cheetos and in the Don't forget about us video, she looks like she always does and like other orgers have mentioned a wanna-be playboy playmate.

I was listening to Wendy Williams radio showand it was said that Mariah was feeling disappointed that people forget she's a songwriter and something about if you're not sitting behind a piano or a guitar and Wendy said "was that suppose to be a stab at Alicia Keys. If she would stop going all out to dress like a bimbo maybe people would take seriously again as a songwriter, but because of videos like Don't forget.. and all these videos post-Tommy Mattola, nobody can see past that.

And she's FAR from fat y'all, she just dresses too slutty. And if she's gonna wear such skintight shit she better whittle down that waistline just a little. That's different from being FAT. Is she in the best shape? No, but the bitch ain't fat & looks pretty good in the beach pics. Sheesh...

This is the point I've been trying to get across throughout this senseless debate...I think a lot of you folks are a bit confused when it comes to your beef with Mariah; Her weight isn't the issue...It's the fact that she insist on wearing clothes designed for young ass R&B/pop chicks...Really, comparing a nearly 40 years-old Mariah Carey to an early 20-something Beyonce is silly and downright idiotic...The same folks calling Mariah Carey fat are the same folks that would label Mariyln Monroe a pig if she was a young starlet today (Take a look at M.M. singing "Happy Birthday" to President JFK...She's almost the same size as Beyonce and Mariah...seriously) For real people; the shit is getting a little stale...If you want to talk about the fact that the Carey chick has the fashion sense of an ex stripper, then I'm with you...But carrying on about her weight is senseless...

As commented before, age ain't got nothin' to do with it. There are women Beyonce's age that are plus sized and not curvy and Mariah will be 36 this year, there are women that are that age and over 40 that are in the best shape of their lives. We are comparing them by size, Beyonce being in her 20's and Mariah being in her mid-30's ain't got nothing to do with. You can't blame it on age.

i dont think its age thats the problem. well it could be to some, but not to me. mariah looks young to me anyway, her skin is still young looking. i really couldnt care less how old she is. i mean im loving madonna wearing those leotards and shes 47.

and with mariah and beyonce i dont think people get what i mean.

i know in terms of width they are roughly the same size. but in terms of... hmmmm... whats the word?.... texture, i guess, mariah is fat, she has no toneness, it seems like she eats and eats and eats but doesnt work out whereas beyonce turns it to muscle.

just compare the pics




eveything of beyonces is in place and isnt sagging, you cant see any rolls or fat droops, wheras mariah you can. fat sags. and dont say its age becuase jeniifer lopez is in her 30's too but shes not sagging anywhere, because shes not fat.

look at the stomach area, the arms, are all more toned, firm and in shape then mariahs. and although from the front it looks like the thighs are the same size, if i had a picture of beyonce from the side to compare to this picture







you would see her thighs are in better shape too.

seriously that last picture of mariah i posted is hideous.
[Edited 1/19/06 21:10pm]

Yeah well, Mariah feels the same way about you

wow, now thats a good picture, she looks great there