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Printablemurph said: hellomoto said: so you see she never was a big as mariah. and that picture there is on the night. but i'll try and find some of her actually performing [Edited 1/22/06 19:53pm] No...if the chick was a size 10 Katty during her peak years, what does that say?...Trust me...Marilyn would have been told to lose weight if she was doing her thing today, and that would be quite sad....By the way, did you check out the pictures I've been going on about seemingly forever (LOL)? scarlett johansen is bigger then marilyn was and shes not losing any weight or being called fat. same with j.lo and beyonce. whereas mariah is. | |
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there you go. still no where near mariah I see mad hips...I see an hour glass figure (especially the picture on the right)...When she first appears onstage and takes off her coat she is more voluptuous than medium size...again, she was 5'5 and a size 10 in her prime...what does that say? [Edited 1/22/06 20:14pm] | |
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hellomoto said: murph said: No...if the chick was a size 10 Katty during her peak years, what does that say?...Trust me...Marilyn would have been told to lose weight if she was doing her thing today, and that would be quite sad....By the way, did you check out the pictures I've been going on about seemingly forever (LOL)? scarlett johansen is bigger then marilyn was and shes not losing any weight or being called fat. same with j.lo and beyonce. whereas mariah is. Yeah, but Beyonce has been called out several times in the press because of her weight (Her dad registers her weight fanatically, which is silly...) But i think the main reason that Mariah catches more hell is because she dresses like a porn extra...That's all... | |
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murph said: hellomoto said: there you go. still no where near mariah I see mad hips...I see an hour glass figure...When she first appears onstage and takes off her coat she is more voluptuous than medium size...again, she was 5'5 and a size 10 in her prime...what does that say? i know shes curvey, im not denying that. but shes no where near as fat as mariah in those beach pictures thats all im saying. like i said i have nothing against curvey women, marilyn has one of my favourite bodys ever, same with yasmin bleeth who has my absolute favourite body and she was quite curvey. as long as there in shape. mariah isnt, shes just fat. [Edited 1/22/06 20:13pm] | |
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Clothing CUT DIFFERENT in the 20's,30's.40's,50's and On and On. Women had Different bodies. Try wearing a 1920's or 40's dress. I did wear one from Vintage stores and the bust and waist is cut certain ways. Marilyn Mighta been a 10 but I have seen her clothes at Hard Rock and she was SMALL. The Size means Nothing....She was NOT FAT..... | |
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hellomoto said: murph said: I see mad hips...I see an hour glass figure...When she first appears onstage and takes off her coat she is more voluptuous than medium size...again, she was 5'5 and a size 10 in her prime...what does that say? i know shes curvey, im not denying that. but shes no where near as fat as mariah in those beach pictures thats all im saying. like i said i have nothing against curvey women, marilyn has one of my favourite bodys ever, same with yasmin bleeth who has my absolute favourite body and she was quite curvey. as long as there in shape. mariah isnt, shes just fat. [Edited 1/22/06 20:13pm] I get your point Katty...i'm just saying that Marilyn would have been called fat as well if she was alive today in peak form...All this to say that calling Mariah fat is ridiculous...She just needs some class... | |
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Zelaira said: Clothing CUT DIFFERENT in the 20's,30's.40's,50's and On and On. Women had Different bodies. Try wearing a 1920's or 40's dress. I did wear one from Vintage stores and the bust and waist is cut certain ways. Marilyn Mighta been a 10 but I have seen her clothes at Hard Rock and she was SMALL. The Size means Nothing....She was NOT FAT.....
Curves are curves...a size 10 is a size 10...The woman had curves... | |
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Zelaira said: Clothing CUT DIFFERENT in the 20's,30's.40's,50's and On and On. Women had Different bodies. Try wearing a 1920's or 40's dress. I did wear one from Vintage stores and the bust and waist is cut certain ways. Marilyn Mighta been a 10 but I have seen her clothes at Hard Rock and she was SMALL. The Size means Nothing....She was NOT FAT.....
exactly | |
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Mariah IS FAT Has NO WAISTLINE and she has CHIPMUNK CHEEKS...She Needs to lose some weight and get a SEXIER SLINKIER LOOK. If U LIKE BIGGER Women that is U But fact of Matter is Mariah IS FAT and NEEDS the GYM. She could look Hot and Be SLIMMER You SEEM to DIG BIG ASSES and Thighs But Ya gotta have DEFINITION and ya gotta have a WAISTLINE. Mariah is THICK around the MIDDLE. Do any of you people Work out at ALL? She could look Better... .. | |
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hellomoto said: Zelaira said: Clothing CUT DIFFERENT in the 20's,30's.40's,50's and On and On. Women had Different bodies. Try wearing a 1920's or 40's dress. I did wear one from Vintage stores and the bust and waist is cut certain ways. Marilyn Mighta been a 10 but I have seen her clothes at Hard Rock and she was SMALL. The Size means Nothing....She was NOT FAT.....
exactly see my above post (LOL) | |
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murph said: Zelaira said: Clothing CUT DIFFERENT in the 20's,30's.40's,50's and On and On. Women had Different bodies. Try wearing a 1920's or 40's dress. I did wear one from Vintage stores and the bust and waist is cut certain ways. Marilyn Mighta been a 10 but I have seen her clothes at Hard Rock and she was SMALL. The Size means Nothing....She was NOT FAT.....
Curves are curves...a size 10 is a size 10...The woman had curves... Duh, this isnt about curves, no one is saying curves are bad. Curves don’t equal fat. But Mariah is beyond curvey | |
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anyway a size 10 is differnt then to what it is now. people are making sizes bigger now so women dont feel so bad. a size 10 was for smaller women then. the population are getter bigger and bigger and they need to accomodate
your point may be shes too big to wear the skimpy clothes shes wearing, but my point is no matter what clothes she wears shes fat. just because its hidden doesnt mean its not there. [Edited 1/22/06 20:35pm] | |
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Zelaira said: Mariah IS FAT Has NO WAISTLINE and she has CHIPMUNK CHEEKS...She Needs to lose some weight and get a SEXIER SLINKIER LOOK. If U LIKE BIGGER Women that is U But fact of Matter is Mariah IS FAT and NEEDS the GYM. She could look Hot and Be SLIMMER You SEEM to DIG BIG ASSES and Thighs But Ya gotta have DEFINITION and ya gotta have a WAISTLINE. Mariah is THICK around the MIDDLE. Do any of you people Work out at ALL? She could look Better... ..
Again, u are the same person that once said Lindsey Lohan and Ms. Ritchie were the ideal size; to me such statements explains a lot...I can respect hellomoto's comments (I still disagree for the most part, however) But I can't get past your previous comments... It's like saying that I'm a huge hip-hop fan and the only group you can list is Black Eyed Peas...No disrespect... | |
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hellomoto said: murph said: Curves are curves...a size 10 is a size 10...The woman had curves... Duh, this isnt about curves, no one is saying curves are bad. Curves don’t equal fat. But Mariah is beyond curvey She just didn't have curves...she would be labeled voluptuous by today's anorexic standards; trust me.....And...no need for the "duh" Katty (LOL) | |
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murph said: hellomoto said: Duh, this isnt about curves, no one is saying curves are bad. Curves don’t equal fat. But Mariah is beyond curvey She just didn't have curves...she would be labeled voluptuous by today's anorexic standards; trust me.....And...no need for the "duh" Katty (LOL) I've heard Marilyn's waist at her heaviest was only 24-25 inches. Mariah has a FAR larger waist. I don't think Mariah is fat, but she does not look particularly appealing in her tight ass outfits. | |
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Does anybody here go to a Gym? Mariah Isn't a size 10 so what is she a 16? You guys don't know Fashion..Some Boutiques only have up to size 2. What U Like and what is CHIC is another thing....Lindsey and Nichole are Fashionable and Waifish. Mariah is Rapish... | |
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squirrelscientist said: murph said: She just didn't have curves...she would be labeled voluptuous by today's anorexic standards; trust me.....And...no need for the "duh" Katty (LOL) I've heard Marilyn's waist at her heaviest was only 24-25 inches. Mariah has a FAR larger waist. I don't think Mariah is fat, but she does not look particularly appealing in her tight ass outfits. I agree...the chick should put some clothes on (although when she's on a beach, she should be allowed to wear a bathing suit ...) Is she a couple of Twinkies away from being blowing up? Yeah...and so is Beyonce ect...But regardless, as it stands the chick aint fat...she's just tactless... [Edited 1/22/06 20:49pm] | |
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Zelaira said: Lindsey and Nichole are Fashionable and Waifish. Mariah is Rapish...
wtf   | |
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Zelaira said: Does anybody here go to a Gym? Mariah Isn't a size 10 so what is she a 16? You guys don't know Fashion..Some Boutiques only have up to size 2. What U Like and what is CHIC is another thing....Lindsey and Nichole are Fashionable and Waifish. Mariah is Rapish...
WTF???? You got some problems... | |
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A One Piece Bathing Suit woulda looked MUCH BETTER. Most Stars DIET when wearing a GORGEOUS GOWN MARIAH looks like she Doesn't CARE..... | |
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murph said: hellomoto said: Duh, this isnt about curves, no one is saying curves are bad. Curves don’t equal fat. But Mariah is beyond curvey She just didn't have curves...she would be labeled voluptuous by today's anorexic standards; trust me.....And...no need for the "duh" Katty (LOL) well obviosuly curves are curves and a size 10 is a size 10, lol. i dont think todays standards are anorexic, sure we have mary kate and nicole and lindsay (for the record i dont think paris deserves to be plopped in there as i think thats her natural weight, and just the way people say natuarlly fat people shouldnt be made fun of neither should natually skinny people like paris) but there pointed out for being anorexic, they're not being glamourised. look at j.lo and beyonce being glamourised and there not skinny (there not fat either, not being skinny doesnt mean fat). scarlett johansen is the it girl and shes not skinny. when lindsay was the it girl around the 'mean girls' stage, she wasnt skinny either [Edited 1/22/06 20:58pm] | |
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Zelaira said: Most Stars DIET when wearing a GORGEOUS GOWN MARIAH looks like she Doesn't CARE.....
Yeah well, Mariah feels the same way about you  | |
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twink69 said: Zelaira said: Most Stars DIET when wearing a GORGEOUS GOWN MARIAH looks like she Doesn't CARE.....
Yeah well, Mariah feels the same way about you wow, now thats a good picture, she looks great there | |
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murph said: Zelaira said: Mariah IS FAT Has NO WAISTLINE and she has CHIPMUNK CHEEKS...She Needs to lose some weight and get a SEXIER SLINKIER LOOK. If U LIKE BIGGER Women that is U But fact of Matter is Mariah IS FAT and NEEDS the GYM. She could look Hot and Be SLIMMER You SEEM to DIG BIG ASSES and Thighs But Ya gotta have DEFINITION and ya gotta have a WAISTLINE. Mariah is THICK around the MIDDLE. Do any of you people Work out at ALL? She could look Better... ..
Again, u are the same person that once said Lindsey Lohan and Ms. Ritchie were the ideal size; to me such statements explains a lot...I can respect hellomoto's comments (I still disagree for the most part, however) But I can't get past your previous comments... It's like saying that I'm a huge hip-hop fan and the only group you can list is Black Eyed Peas...No disrespect... You know what is so funny? I find the women who give curvy girls hell are usually very skinny and pretty much have nothing. They cling on to the high fashion ideal which is a very boyish thing and just say chic this and chic that and everyone eles is fat and blah blah blah...but the truth is ALOT of men would find Mariah's body much more appealing than Kate Moss'. Seriously I just pay attention at my work at how other girls can be. It's mostly the women with an hour glass figure with boobs and butt that are making the money the easiest and it is always the stick thin "model" types that are bitching about how fat she is and siting on their asses making no money.  They just act like they are so lithe and superior because they are insecure. | |
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hellomoto said: murph said: She just didn't have curves...she would be labeled voluptuous by today's anorexic standards; trust me.....And...no need for the "duh" Katty (LOL) well obviosuly curves are curves and a size 10 is a size 10, lol. i dont think todays standards are anorexic, sure we have mary kate and nicole and lindsay (for the record i dont think paris deserves to be plopped in there as i think thats her natural weight, and just the way people say natuarlly fat people shouldnt be made fun of neither should natually skinny people like paris) but there pointed out for being anorexic, they're not being glamourised. look at j.lo and beyonce being glamourised and there not skinny (there not fat either, not being skinny doesnt mean fat). scarlett johansen is the it girl and shes not skinny. when lindsay was the it girl around the 'mean girls' stage, she wasnt skinny either [Edited 1/22/06 20:58pm] But there is a common theme with the girls you named (excluding J Lo)...These girls are all under 25 years old...Mariah is close to 40 years old...Trust me Katty...This matters...Beyond that, Mariah needs some class; this we can agree on...Cool? | |
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hellomoto said: murph said: She just didn't have curves...she would be labeled voluptuous by today's anorexic standards; trust me.....And...no need for the "duh" Katty (LOL) well obviosuly curves are curves and a size 10 is a size 10, lol. i dont think todays standards are anorexic, sure we have mary kate and nicole and lindsay (for the record i dont think paris deserves to be plopped in there as i think thats her natural weight, and just the way people say natuarlly fat people shouldnt be made fun of neither should natually skinny people like paris) but there pointed out for being anorexic, they're not being glamourised. look at j.lo and beyonce being glamourised and there not skinny (there not fat either, not being skinny doesnt mean fat). scarlett johansen is the it girl and shes not skinny. when lindsay was the it girl around the 'mean girls' stage, she wasnt skinny either [Edited 1/22/06 20:58pm] Now that we got that out of the way...what's been going on Katty?...how are the MJboard folks?...Tell Ben and X I said what's up... [Edited 1/22/06 21:22pm] | |
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Krystal666 said: murph said: Again, u are the same person that once said Lindsey Lohan and Ms. Ritchie were the ideal size; to me such statements explains a lot...I can respect hellomoto's comments (I still disagree for the most part, however) But I can't get past your previous comments... It's like saying that I'm a huge hip-hop fan and the only group you can list is Black Eyed Peas...No disrespect... You know what is so funny? I find the women who give curvy girls hell are usually very skinny and pretty much have nothing. They cling on to the high fashion ideal which is a very boyish thing and just say chic this and chic that and everyone eles is fat and blah blah blah...but the truth is ALOT of men would find Mariah's body much more appealing than Kate Moss'. Seriously I just pay attention at my work at how other girls can be. It's mostly the women with an hour glass figure with boobs and butt that are making the money the easiest and it is always the stick thin "model" types that are bitching about how fat she is and siting on their asses making no money. They just act like they are so lithe and superior because they are insecure.in depends what country your in, i noticed when i went to america the men there did seem to like the bigger girls, but over where i live the majority of guys like skinny. oh and why is ok if you make fun of skinny girls and make stereotypes? | |
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murph said: hellomoto said: well obviosuly curves are curves and a size 10 is a size 10, lol. i dont think todays standards are anorexic, sure we have mary kate and nicole and lindsay (for the record i dont think paris deserves to be plopped in there as i think thats her natural weight, and just the way people say natuarlly fat people shouldnt be made fun of neither should natually skinny people like paris) but there pointed out for being anorexic, they're not being glamourised. look at j.lo and beyonce being glamourised and there not skinny (there not fat either, not being skinny doesnt mean fat). scarlett johansen is the it girl and shes not skinny. when lindsay was the it girl around the 'mean girls' stage, she wasnt skinny either [Edited 1/22/06 20:58pm] Now that we got that out of the way...what's been going on Katty?...how is the MJboard folks?...Tell Ben and X I said what's up... [Edited 1/22/06 21:21pm] i'll pm you | |
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