Your Opinion. And mine is That Mariah NEEDS A DIET and is FAT. I do think girls like MANUELA,NICHOLE,PARIS,LINDSEY and EVA look MUCH BETTER than PUFFY FACE, Big TITTED, BIG ASSED BIMBO LOOKS. That look is Over EXCEPT for SOME MEN who like that "OUI" look. Pam Anderson is BLOATED Lately also. She better watch cause her Midsection is getting Bloated. I Love Mariah's singing I just Liked her SOPHISTICATED LOOK Better.

Zelaira said:

Yo Z...I would like to know, where are you from? Are you European/American? also, how old are you? I have to say that you are allowed to have your own opinion...If you think Mariah is overweight, then cool...However, it is very telling that you list Lindsey Lohan and Nicole Richie as examples of "fit" women...Believe me, I would not even have posted my comments if such an example didn't come out of your mouth...have you seen these young women lately? Did you hear that Lionel Richie had to confront his daughter about her eating disorder? This is far from an opinion...It's a fact that Lindsey and Nicole are both showing ribs and shrinking before our eyes...As for Eva, she looks fine for a girl under 5'4; and she is still curvey...She is a more acceptable example...But you seem to worship the anorexic look of Nicole Richie, which is very disturbing...Saying that Mariah should go for a more sophisticated look is one thing (read my prior post...I agree wholeheartedly); But you are equating weight with sophistication, which is pretty juvenile and quite silly (No disrespect)...
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She CLEARLY Has IMPLANTS. Madonna and Vanessa Paradis Johnny Dep's wife are Much Better looking than that Busting out look. Beyonce looks slimmer nowadays. Mariah was probably the Biggest Woman at the Globes. Men just want to see her Boobs... They don't care bout her Voice. She should pose for PLAYBOY.....Why did TOMMY MOTOLA DUMP her? What is THAT STORY? Who Produces her now? Isn't it Jermaine Dupri and Isn't she all HIP HOP? Her style Changed as did her FASHION and DIET...FACT! She wants to be HIP HOP and Living Large!
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Seen any SKINNY HIP HOP GIRLS in VIDEOS? EVERYBODY LARGE and SHAKING TITTIES and ASSES and DRINKING...HIP HOP STYLE....It's TRUE.... NO skinny Hip Hoppers but SNOOP. All women BUILT UP! Go to Jazz or Pop where the women are Slinkier. More Subdued...

Zelaira said:

Are you from the US or Overseas? Just asking....Because your statement seems a little misinformed
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US and PROUD to NOT be a FAT AMERICAN UNLIKE MANY who just GIVE UP and LIVE ON JUNK FOOD... EXERCISE...IT's a WONDERFUL THING.....

Zelaira said:

Yes i agree...America is full of fat slobs. But to say that women who are shapely and don't fit the mode of Nicole Richie or Lindsey Lohan are fat is just plain ridiculous...I would like to know why you find these two rib caged-women the ideal weight? Also, I think you need to do your homework when it comes to Jazz vocalist...there are plenty of singers who don't fit the anerexic mode that you are truely obsessed with (Casandra Wilson, Sade, Jill Scott, who is more R&B than Jazz, ect...) I believe you are confusing dressing with class and being overweight...Yes, Mariah needs to wear more sophsiticated clothes; but her so called "heavy weight' has nothing to do with it...it's because she's damn near 40 years old and needs to grow up... But in the end, I think what it all comes down to cultural differences...There is the European view of what is deemed as being "in shape" and the black view...You seem to be on the fringe of the european view...Again, you have to explain to me what is so unhealthy and fat about women that appear in hip-hop or R&B videos? Are you white? No disrespect, but I have to know...
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Yes, White and I do like More Petite women and Model shapes. I Prefer women to look slinky and yes, Waif is Cute. But I also like Brazilan shapes. Biiger Booty small top. Depends. Sade is Not Fat and was always STUNNING.....Yes, the other jazz women are Heavier and that is Not what I like. I like Petite best. Why ya think I dig PRINCE. He has ALWAYS BEEN STUNNING. I KNOW he is NOT a WOMAN but if he was Well back then he woulda had a Perfect Body. Most of his women Susanna , Vanity, Mayte , Mani Petite. Nobody Overwhelming. It just is CUTE and Better to be kinda DELICATE.....FEMININE and Slinky. Nichole Ritchie and Lohan and Paris look like Fashion Models. They look Great. Shelia E had an AMAZING BODY When she was YOUNGER... GORGEOUS also. It just looks better NOT to be Fallin Outta Ya Clothes. All the Hip Hop Ladies have CURVES. Nothing wrong. But I Think Mariah if ya sked her weightwould SHOCK Ya and Then you can ASK WOULD Ya STILL WANT her On TOP OF YA? Would ya Want a WOMAN HEAVIER and BIGGER than YOURSELF? IF Ya DO well??? Why Not Go for a MAN? Only a BIG Man would want a 180 pound woman.

Zelaira said:

Well, that explains a lot...If you look at today's Sade she would fall under the category of the "fat" figure you speak of;She has a very hour glass figure...Also, if you think Lindsey Lohan and Nicole Ritchie are ideal in weight then I believe there is no getting through to you...
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Just my opinion Z...Again, no disrespect...
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Everybody is entitled. I like my Types. You and other's can like Thicker. Nobody wrong. To each their own. I don't like Big men either. I like smaller.

Yes...everybody is entitled to their own opinion...This is true...but I don't know anyone in their right, healthy mind would say that Nicole Ritchie or Lindsey Lohan are the ideal weight...to me this is a red flag on your part...You seem to have an infactuation with absurdly stick figures...Super Models like Giselle, Heide Klume, and even a young Naomi have/or had healthy thin figures, which is cool...Eva from Dseperate Housewives is one thing (she has a great figure to be so petite as well); HOWEVER!!!!! Nicole Ritchie is quite another...That girl has problems with her lack of normal weight...To me this sheds light on why you think Mariah is fat...It explains a lot, really...
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Zelaira said:

I am BIG.....

murph said:

That's what I'm saying. Those two look like crack hoez, along with that c--- Paris. If I can see a chick's ribs, or if her belly is flopping, I'm like, "feet don't fail me now!"
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When one eats right sometimes ya really skinny. Not about drugs....

Zelaira said:

In Lindsy's and Nicole's case, it's the drugs, among other things...

You mean she don't take her weave out when she goes swimming?! She looks like a fat chipmunk, like she's got nuts stored in her cheeks or something. Her body is ok but who ain't tired of seein her boobies and coochie ALL THE TIME?

Ya'll are a mess. P would be proud.

DaVanity said:

Now this a quote i can agree with (to a point...)...The problem isn't her weight (which is fine, really)...it's the fact that the woman feels she has to dress like she is auditioning for a Luke video circa '93...But Mariah is far from overweight...and for God's Sake...it's a bathing suit people!!!!
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she's built like a drag queen though.

hellomoto said:

oh give me a break....Mariah isn't close to 187.


As I've stated before, this is why so many struggle with eating disorders because of this fucked up body image crap.


and Z...what videos are you watching? I rarely see "fat" chicks in the videos UNLESS they are using neighborhood chicks.


Mariah isn't FAT at all. She looked good at the golden globes. Good lawd....if Mariah is fat...Queen Latifah is what..what category would she be in....if Mariah takes up the "fat" category....


crazy....

ChristopherTracyParade said:

Ahhh I don't think so! Her ass is fat and she needs to cover that shit up. You're probably one of the many fat asses that would have all your cellulite and rolls poppin' out all over the place. HATER. I ain't hatin' on no shit like that. HATIN' is being jealous of a body like Halle Berry or Beyonce or Demi Moore. That' HATIN. Young or Old if you got it you got it and if you don't cover that shit up!

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twink69 said:

ChristopherTracyParade said:

Stop at the opthalmologist and get your cataracts removed or your glaucoma treated. I don't know what the hell you seein'

TurnItUp said:

Ahh...the idiot hater has returned to hate some more. Get a life, hater. Mariah is cool. Grow up and realize ANOREXIA IS FOR IDIOT HOES.

TurnItUp said:

So...are you Bulemic ir Anorexic and are you currently seeking treatment for it and the mental problems that you're showing as a result of it?

ChristopherTracyParade said:

Ditto...

minneapolisgenius said:

this thread is both amusing and really, really sad.

XxAxX said:

I agree.