....Arsenio

First, i'd like to take some time and thank DPWC for helping me stumble across YouTube, it's like christmas all over.

http://www.youtube.com/w/...nk%20zappa

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Damn, i just click on Hare's thread. maybe we should just create a sticky for YouTube?

Noone wants to talk about the dots?!

oh, i WILL... but give me some time...

ah, very nice one! I have dled the Letterman show a few years ago... Frank is just fantastic, yes, he still is - great man.

I will have a look at this when I come home. I doubt that I have any Arsenio appearance from Frank, so this
is greatly appreciated!

Thanks for sharing.

They don't really get to talk about anything (as I got to expect from the thread-title). I somewhere have
an appearance on Letterman where he gets about 30 seconds air-time, basically just sits there, takes a bow and
leaves. Hmmm.

Nice little story about the cancelled show which got Arsenio a gig.

Ikaros said:

yeah, and it seems that Arsenio wasn't quite capable of holding down a conversation with ol' Frank. Anyways, i don't know if this was the appearance you were referring to, but here's a clip of Frank on Letterman. http://www.youtube.com/w/...20zappa%20

Yeah, that's the one. More conversation than I remembered from the last time I saw it. These TV-shows still work
the same way, do they not? Good to have you here, keep it short and simple, and see you next time.

Nice clip Sin

I especially got a kick out of Zappa's reference to...



...Gene Scott. I wonder if anybody here knows who he was.


For an example of Gene Scott during one of his more agitated moments:
http://www.wittenburgdoor...cott.html#


"Get on the telephone!"
~ Dr. Gene Scott (1929-2005)

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theAudience said:

Let me get this straight, he was an evangelist!

Good thing he's not around anymore, cuz i'd probably join his flock.

Yeah, i had no idea who Frank was talkin about when he referenced him.

Creeped out edit
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I'm not gonna say anything, until you send that money on this program...

now thats what I call a weasel-face...

btw, glad to see some (many?) of you still still pay attention to franks work.

Classic Arsenio! He had absolutely no idea what to say.

Dr. Gene Scott

Cursing you into sending your paycheck.

Yeah right.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Not only an evangelist, but a Stanford educated (PhD in Philosopies of Education) one.

I stumbled across this guy on TV (much like I stumbled across Art Bell on radio) after getting home from a gig and still being too wired to sleep. What made me stop on his, at that time, UHF station was the fact that he was having a detailed discussion about how various dimensions of the Great Pyramid related to significant dates in history. This is before I discovered that he was a *televangelist.
*(A term he detested and actually sued Time magazine for referring to him that way.)

Depending on the night, you might catch him talking about Atlantis, Stonehenge, his Tennessee walking horses or any number of subjects not associated with traditional biblical teachings. Something he said one night made this all seem quite normal, "Just because you're a Christian doesn't mean when you come to my church you leave your brain at the door."

Then you get to his physical appearance. You don't usually expect to see a TV preacher wearing strange hats, smoking cigars, blowing sax (badly imo) or playing R&R tunes as background music. Keep in mind that this is all being done with a glorious lo-fi/cable-access non-stop telethon kind of vibe. All the while various staff members are running around giving him updates as to how much cash is being collected via his in studio phone bank. And if the numbers didn't add up to what he had "requested" from the flock, he would just sit there and say nothing until he "made his numbers". Something if you didn't see for yourself, you wouldn't believe if somebody described it for you.

I didn't realize he'd passed away because the shows (broadcasting 24/7 via satellite into 180 countries) are still running.

He's survived by his 3rd wife (and current Pastor of his church), former adult film star Barbi Bridges. The fun never ends with this guy.

This was some great wacko-TV. I can see why Frank Zappa was attracted to it.


"Great Scott"-isms...

"You ever meet Christians? You wish you could shove a pipe in their mouth. Anything to shut them up."

"I want 300 people to give $1,000 by June 30 to humiliate Satan's efforts to destroy us,"

"A skinflint may get to Heaven, but what awaits him are a rusty old halo, a skinny old cloud, and a robe so worn it scratches. First-class salvation costs money."

"I'm not selling forty-pound Bibles, or water from Jordan, or 4,000 plastic crosses made by the Japanese and sold to Arabs. I don't send out 'healing cloths' or tear up my shirt. I say: what's what I've done worth? Whatever the meal I've fed you is worth, pay up. I'm not trying to save anybody. I think if you reject Christianity, you should do it intelligently."

...Get on the telephone!
http://www.drgenescott.com/home.htm


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Great info, thanks tA!

Thanks for the info tA! My curiousity did peak after watching that clip. Now if i can only tune in his reruns.

I wanna know about the "secret poop that Pat Robertson was into"!

What's the "Susie" reference? I don't know much about Zappa.

FunkMistress said:

That's the infamous Suzy Creamcheese. A character that pops up periodically in early Zappa material.

Suzy Creamcheese was a girl named Jeanne Vassoir. And she is the voice that's on the Freak Out album. The myth of Suzy Creamcheese, the letter on the album, I wrote myself. There never really was a Suzy Creamcheese. It was just a figment of my imagination until people started identifying with it heavily. It got to weird proportions in Europe, so that in 1967, when we did our first tour of Europe, people were asking if Suzy Creamcheese was along with us. So I procured the services of another girl named Pamela Zarubica, who was hired to be the Suzy Creamcheese of the European tour. And then she maintained the reputation of being Suzy Creamcheese after 1967. The first one went someplace, we don't know where. She's back in town now; I saw her.

~Frank Zappa
http://globalia.net/donlo...heese.html


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Ikaros said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

You're both quite welcome.

This guy was a hoot. Catch him any way you can.


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A little (classic) something for stupid people who still don't get it... (Prince mention ("Sister")

http://www.youtube.com/w/...arch=ZAppa

Neversin.
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Neversin said:

For some reason the video portion is not working for me.
Another source - http://www.ifilm.com/ifil...il/2658805

"I love it when you froth like that."


Great setup (for the readers left among us) for his senate testimony on the subject:
http://uweb.superlink.net...9/p51.html


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theAudience said:

WHOOOOOAAAA!!!! thanks again! i wasn't able to access this video through YouTube either, and i really did want to see it! this is much better than that Arsenio interview!

This makes me love Zappa even more, i love how he handled that guy John Lofton (sp?) i laughed out loud when he said "i love it when you froth like that!" which you've already quoted. those guys were coming at him like wild dogs, i'm sure it would've been nice to have someone else who supported Zappa's position on the show. i wish that guy was still around.

That clip was the

i've seen clips of the Senate hearings on PMRC, but never in it's entirety, i'm gonna print it out and give it a read when i get a chance.

Btw are you sure you don't have a on your chest?

This is all classic stuff. Wasn't the theme of those Crossfire shows something like "CAN ROCKMUSIC CAUSE AIDS?"

A few years ago I read FZs Biography ("The Real FZ Book"), and I read it over and over again (I guess 10 times at least). It's so entertaining - big fun!

And there is a (not too small) section dedicated to those TV preachers. "DWEEZIL, IF YOU DO NOT BEHAVE, I WILL MAKE YOU WATCH THE MAN IN THE BROWN SUIT"

Btw, is Jimmy Swaggart still around? (I can remember the opening song from Make A Jazz Noise Here... "Jimmy Swaggart put under investigation"... "one day everyone of those co**suckers will get caught..."). oh, it is just fantastic. It is truely sad that he isn't around any longer. We have people like Ian Penman instead...

SenseOfDoubt said:

yeah, i've been wanting to pick up a bio on Zappa, but there are a couple out and i've read mixed reviews on both. i might be wrong but i thought i read somewhere that a new one was coming out (don't quote me on this) You seem like a true Zappa fan so i think i'll just pick up TRFZB.

Oh btw

sinisterpentatonic said:

Oh thanks. "The Real Frank Zappa Book" is the best you can start with. FZ wrote it on his own (with the help of Peter Occhiogrosso). At the beginning he states, why he wrote it: "There are many books about me on the market. There should be at least one that contains the truth...".

There are quite some good other bios, I guess - but still I did not try one.
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theAudience said:

I didn't watch the clip, I just read "Crossfire" and "Frank Zappa" and that could only mean the 1 classic episode...
Thanx for the updated link...
But for anyone interested, most of his TV appearances have been posted on the usual place (8 DVD-R's...)

Neversin.

SenseOfDoubt said:

Co-signing SOD's endorsement of...



...The Real Frank Zappa Book

I used to own it.
Lent it to a friend who took it to Japan, never to be seen again.


And yeah...



...Jimmy Swaggart (cousin of Jerry Lee Lewis) is still slingin' them packets on TV. http://www.jsm.org/



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