I remember the song by David Bowie called Fame and then i heard a song by James Brown(either i need love..or gimme good lovin).THE BACKGROUND MUSIC IS IDENTICAL.has any1 else ever noticed this??and if so shed some light cause i'm confused.

Have you heard "sexy MF" or "Kiss" or "The Work?" It's OK to copy JB cause we all know he's the original.

DMSR said:

theC
yeah but this music is INDENTICAL as in COPY from the 70's.

Here's The Light: it was The Godfather of Soul who nicked that music from Bowie, not vice versa. This is a good example I usually use when I tell people even the great ones take music from others too.

"Fame" was recorded and released on the Young Americans album in March of 1975 before the Godfather's song, "Hot (I Need To Be Loved, Loved, Loved)" was recorded in September-October of 1975.

The link here is Carlos Alomar who at one time was a JB sideman and eventually co-wrote (along Bowie and John Lennon) "Fame" and played guitar on it.

Because JB has been around sooo long, and because of his legendary status, and the fact that he is the founding father of Funk, many people end up thinking Bowie took it from JB. Not the case.

Supernova said:

theC
should have known u would know.Supernova u r the orgmusicencyclopedia.If u only knew more about Rick

theC said:

LOL!
I had to think for a second about who Rick was. I know about Rick, I actually like some of Rick's music. I just don't like his attitude and the fact that he hasn't seemed to change much. It might appear that I hate him, but I really don't.

You and I
Bustin' Out
Mary Jane...and some others. I love that stuff. But that song he produced for Eddie Murphy was CRAAAPP!!!

Supernova said:

theC
that eddie murphy song is the equivalent 2 theP
so that 1 doesn't count.i'm surprised how many people
have never heard dreammaker by him.it's as sensual a ballad
as international lover.

Supernova said:

I think that's out of context. It was sometime after that that he worked with JB, not prior to it.

theC said:

Oh, don't get me wrong, Prince has coasted and written some dumb crap too.

What album is Dreammaker on?

Supernova said:

I think it's on his first album.but u can get it on the bustin out greatest hits double cd.i'll convert it 2 mp3 and email it 2 u if u want.

Here's an interview with Carlos Alomar where he explains things:

http://www.teenagewildlif...losQA.html

The way I read it, Alomar did work with James Brown before he met up with Bowie.

However, the disputed riff is one of Carlos' own which he says James Brown took and used in 'Hot ...'

Actually Rick was pretty bad-ass up till about 1983 w/ Throwin' Down. uugghh. I really liked the Stone City stuff the best, but Street Songs was a damn good record! 'Mr. Policeman' is campy as hell, I love that bass line.

PrincPDC said:

I have all of Rick James' albums and I have to say that 1981's 'Street Songs' is his masterpiece.His 1983 album 'Cold Blooded' was probably the last truly great record he made.After that album, most of his music became predictable and formulaic ("17"(1984),"Sweet and Sexy Thing"(1986),"Loosey's Rap"(1988) are cool songs,just not very original).However,in 1997 he released the 'Urban Rapsody' CD,which was a return to form,imo.

Supernova said:

I've ALWAYS wondered who had that one first and had falsely determined that it was JB.