Who??? Who??? Who???

Was it D'Angelo or maybe Tonie Tonie Tone?? Is Erykah Badu or The roots??

Who did all that mess??? Somebody,,,

Harlepolis said:

A Motown Executive by the name of Kedar Messanburg says he made up the term because R & B is coming back with with plenty of soul for ex. Angie Stone, D'Angelo etc... but I agree with Raphael Saadiq. In the last issue of Billboard where this topic was taking place he said that this neo soul tag he doesn't agree with. In my opinion the newer groups are just going back to that old soul from back in the day & expanding on it, so to me there is no such thing as neo soul (it's a bullshit term) Motown Executives need to call it what it is!!

Neo soul was a term coined by the music media and since I do not know the definition of it I wouldn't know who would be considered neo soul.

d'angelo was the first artist to really have succes with this 'new' or 'neo' soul as it's been called; he started the movement. and man, i love him for that.

Is it just me?...I HATE Raphael Saadiq's new album. I've given it a full listen twice and I'm not feeling it at all. I LOVE his voice but I aint feeling this music.

eldog98 said:

I agree with you on Kedar Massenberg. D'Angelo kind of started the use of the old Fender Rhodes sound, which was sort of copied from a combination of Stevie Wonder & Curtis Mayfield and others, but Kedar also had El DeBarge doing this as well (What happened to him?)But what they are doing is NOT new or revolutionary at all. They just combined the old school sounds with samplers and Logic Audio for drum loops! This is my opinion. I still like it and at least people are starting to SING again!!

DCM

classic77 said:

i believe it's been described as a mixture of the oldschool soul and present state of hiphop. d'angelo was the first to be a big succes, but was immediately followed by lots of other artist awaiting such a break. you can say it's everyhere nowadays. thank god d'angelo is now working in a somewhat different direction by focusing on making more funk-based music.

PPL say this mess was influenced by THE 70's R&B,,HUH??? Call me a bluff but I don't see whats so similar. I mean I have Millie Jackson/Stevie Wonder/Marvin/Crutis/Minnie/Isaac/Bobby/Robrta/Donny and I DON'T SEE ANY THING IN COMMON wit this NEO-SOUL ish, maybe the rhodes/drum programming/synthisizer and all the arrangments but they are not the first to do that. To me the 70's R&B was catchier and more beautiful than this mess.

I see my friends GET HOOKED UP by Erykah/Jill/Roots/Bilal/Musiq/Angelo and the rest and I'm like WTF?? Yes I do enjoy their music but why all the hoopla?? Personaly, I think LAURYN HILL is the best one out there(I don't know is she a neo soul too??) the one who should take the credit 4 her fine work.

As 4 Erykah/Jill/Angelo/Roots/bilal/Musiq I love 'em and I do enjoy their music but they didn't give a BETTER VERSION of the 70's soul/r&b/funk NO SIR.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I dunno but I have a strong dislike for most recent r&b things since Prince's "emancipation".

Harlepolis said:

It's just another marketing term for music that was already there, but is played by a different generation and informed by today's technology. It's soul music by today's generation. The industry likes to keep a movement in a nice, neat, confined, niche to sell it.

I can't tell you who was first, but I do know that Meshell Ndegéocello's debut in 1993 (and still her best album to me, although all of them are good) was the first one that had a big influence on what followed.

Supernova said:

Co-sign all that. Omar's contribution to the soul renaissance shouldn't be slept on either though. "There's nothing Like This" dropped 1991...

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's just you! I bought it when it came out, and I love it.

raphael sadiq...without a doubt

I think you guys would have to admit that it's not an overstatement to say that Prince had quite a bit of influence on the whole neo-soul movement as well, even though he is not recognized for that. I mean, songs like Dorothy Parker, Forever in my Life, and Adore (all from SOTT alone) were all precursors to the sound of D'angelo, Maxwell, and other neo-soul artists.

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Essence said:

Speaking of being slept on, I did sleep on that one and someone told me about it about 6 years ago. I still haven't heard it.

jtgillia said:

Most definitely he is. And most of the "neo soul" performers always acknowledge Prince's influence. I think Amir Thompson (?uestlove) has even cited Dorothy Parker as where "neo soul" took root.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Nope - it's not just you. Entire album just leaves me cold.

ALTHOUGH I AM BIG FANS OF THE LIKES OF MAXWELL AND D'ANGELO. AN ARTIST OF HUGE IMPORTANCE IN THE NEO SOUL MOVEMENT WAS, REMEMBER A MAN CALLED 'OMAR'. THE HUGE HIT 'THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THIS'

'SIP A GLASS OF COLD CHAMPAGNE WINE, THE RUG THAT WE LIE ON FEELS DEFINE'

HE IS THE GOVERNOR AND ONE OF THE BEST LIVE PERFORMERS IN THE BUSINESS.

HE IS STILL PRODUCING HIGH QUALITY MUSIC. 'BEST BY FAR' IS HIS NEW ALBUM AND AS THE TITLE SAYS IT IS HIS BEST ALBUM TO DATE. HAS A DUETS WITH E BADU AND ANGIE STONE. IF U HAVE NOT GOT THIS ALBUM BUY IT!!!

OMAR THE KING OF NEO SOUL.

neo soul is blah! where's the rush, commericalism of the music? its so slow, lovey-dovey, try to be sexy, ugly looking ppl. working it. blah!

THEBUNNYMEN said:

Yeah like I said above, Supernova and co should check out all five of his albums. D'Angelo, Badu etc all name check him.

As for Raph Saadiq, give it a few more plays as I found it to be a grower... the title "Instant Vintage" is highly ironic.

subyduby said:

THANK YOU!

Glad I ain't the only one in this damn room who feels this way. I mean YEAH I LIKE IT but I don't spend my energy on it if you know what I'm saying?? Its mellowed in general and that it the best part. Althought I kindda like Erykah/Jill and I HATE IT when Angelo/Maxwell scream like Prince,,,he gets on my last f-cking nerve when he do that.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You're the 1st who say that,,,

I mean you ain't right man. This brotha got the James Brown sence in him wit a Smocky Robinson voice. His strings are killers(So Arabic ). His guitar/bass playing ain't the best but its DOPE.

Its sad, when ppl look at Bilal/Musiq when they have a black pearl ander their nose,,,Mr.Saadiq!