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Thread started 12/29/05 12:20pm

novamonkey

Quincy Jones is a genius

Everything that man touches turns to gold.
I just listened to his 1962 album Bossa Nova and it's amazing. Thats 20 years before Thriller.
And he turned perhaps my favorite song of all time Stevie Wonders Superwoman almost even better than the original on the Sounds.. And Stuff Like That!! album.
Give if up for the genius that is Q.
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Reply #1 posted 12/29/05 12:35pm

CinisterCee

heck yeah!

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Reply #2 posted 12/29/05 12:42pm

chuckaducci

That word gets tossed around so arbitrarily these days.
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Reply #3 posted 12/29/05 1:29pm

ABeautifulOne

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Tell us something we don't know...
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Reply #4 posted 12/29/05 1:57pm

CinisterCee

chuckaducci said:

That word gets tossed around so arbitrarily these days.


finally, a thread for someone who actually deserves it. nod
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Reply #5 posted 12/29/05 2:12pm

andyman91

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A brilliant producer & hitmaker, but sometimes I wonder...

He's called jazz, but his style of jazz seems very pop. I know way back when he worked with the heavys--Frank, Miles, Sarah Vaughn--but in the 70's was he really a force in jazz? Killer Joe? I don't know. And was he a composer? Musician? Arranger? Or just producer?

And I disagree about Superwoman. Also What's Goin' On just doesn't move me like Marvin's.

It seems like his brand of "genius" is more like (this is not a perfect analogy, but) Madonna's--as someone who knows what people will like. Now, like I said way back when, maybe his arrangements were genius, I don't know. But Body Heat is just a great pop song, I wouldn't call it genius. And I don't think he wrote it.

But there's no disputing the beauty of the production on Suff Like That, Off the Wall, etc.

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Reply #6 posted 12/29/05 2:14pm

superspaceboy

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MJ should have never let that man out of his "inner circle"

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Reply #7 posted 12/29/05 4:24pm

hellomoto

but dont most people hate 'bad', saying thats where michael muic went wrong. i think people forget quincy produced that.
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Reply #8 posted 12/29/05 4:43pm

FunkyBrotha

A lot of ppl seem to think that Quincy made MJ's music great, it was MJ that made Billie Jean all by himself, listen to the demo which sounds practically the same as the finished version. Quincy simply gave MJ advice and assistance in the studio.

The reason Invincible wasnt as great as Thriller was because of Michael Jackson, not because Quincy wasnt producing it.
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Reply #9 posted 12/29/05 5:02pm

thedoorkeeper

FunkyBrotha said:

Quincy simply gave MJ advice and assistance in the studio.


In other words Q hogged in on MJ & got his name put on the record as producer when he actually did very little except give advice.
Nice rewriting of the MJ story.
How about Rod Templeton? Did he write those songs for MJ on Off The Wall & Thriller or are they really MJ written songs that Rod fleshed out & then took full credit for?
You can always tell a true blue MJ fan by their belief that MJ is the center of the universe.
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Reply #10 posted 12/29/05 5:06pm

missmad

reallly? ure just finding this out lol, have u read his autobiography, GREAT READ!!!!!


he is great! smile
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Reply #11 posted 12/29/05 5:09pm

MichaelsLight

Q is great outside of his work with Michael rolleyes . His jazz cuts are great, and other artists he's worked with have to give him serious props....
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Reply #12 posted 12/29/05 5:39pm

superspaceboy

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I was merely mentioning MJ let Q leave his circle..or whatever. I wasn't talking about the music. Quincy is a very powerful man and protected MJ...as well as being a mentor. Had he not left the MJ camp, MJ would probably not had as many issues as he does now. At least that's what my buddy's dad (an exec from one of the major studios) said.

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Reply #13 posted 12/29/05 5:42pm

MichaelsLight

superspaceboy said:

I was merely mentioning MJ let Q leave his circle..or whatever. I wasn't talking about the music. Quincy is a very powerful man and protected MJ...as well as being a mentor. Had he not left the MJ camp, MJ would probably not had as many issues as he does now. At least that's what my buddy's dad (an exec from one of the major studios) said.


I wasn't exactly directing that towards you, its just some people only apperciate Quincy Jones for his work with Michael. That's all I was saying biggrin
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Reply #14 posted 12/29/05 5:46pm

superspaceboy

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MichaelsLight said:

superspaceboy said:

I was merely mentioning MJ let Q leave his circle..or whatever. I wasn't talking about the music. Quincy is a very powerful man and protected MJ...as well as being a mentor. Had he not left the MJ camp, MJ would probably not had as many issues as he does now. At least that's what my buddy's dad (an exec from one of the major studios) said.


I wasn't exactly directing that towards you, its just some people only apperciate Quincy Jones for his work with Michael. That's all I was saying biggrin


sall good. I was bringing the context of Q beyond the music in MJ's world.

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Reply #15 posted 12/29/05 10:32pm

prettymansson

I FREAKIN LOVE THIS MAN !!!!!
The dude..
Michael Jackson-
brothers johnson-
razamatazz-
bet u wouldnt hurt me-
so much amazing music...

U need to go check out the dvd "listen up" he's an amazing man.
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Reply #16 posted 12/30/05 7:17am

Slave2daGroove

A legend in popular music and it has nothing to do with Thriller and everything to do with his place in music history (jazz especially).


I've got to read that autobiography.
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Reply #17 posted 12/30/05 7:20am

lilgish

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Slave2daGroove said:

A legend in popular music and it has nothing to do with


not even a little ...?
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Reply #18 posted 12/30/05 7:28am

FunkyBrotha

um, i dont really understand the comparison with Rod Temperton, Rod wrote a few songs for Michael, i.e. he was a songwriter, but Michael made the music behind the lyrics.

Clearly u dont own any of the Special Edition MJ albums with all the demos, where MJ creates the music at home practically in perfect condition. Quincy even states this himself, that he was simply an advisor. The fact that MJ is the biggest artist on the planet has very little to do with Quincy Jones, he was in the picture just the same as Jam/Lewis and Teddy Riley. MJ is the biggest artist in the world because HE is talented.
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Reply #19 posted 12/30/05 7:40am

Slave2daGroove

lilgish said:

Slave2daGroove said:

A legend in popular music and it has nothing to do with


not even a little ...?
[Edited 12/30/05 7:20am]


O.K., sure. My point is that the man was a legend before Thriller.
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Reply #20 posted 12/30/05 7:49am

lilgish

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Slave2daGroove said:

lilgish said:



not even a little ...?
[Edited 12/30/05 7:20am]


O.K., sure. My point is that the man was a legend before Thriller.


most definately, he studied with Nadia Boulanger.
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Reply #21 posted 12/30/05 8:06am

SenseOfDoubt

FunkyBrotha said:

MJ is the biggest artist in the world because HE is talented.


That's not true. I am the biggest artist in the world BECAUSE I am talented.
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Reply #22 posted 12/30/05 8:07am

theAudience

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Quincy Jones is one of those American music icons that if it weren't for his association with a handfull of Pop stars like Michael Jackson (or writing the Sanford and Son theme) most Pop music fans wouldn't even know existed.

Not even counting his Jazz affiliations, film scores and numerous arrangements and orchestrations, his Pop contributions go back as far as Lesley Gore's It's My Party.

Do yourself a favor and listen the Theme from The Pawnbroker (sung by Sarah Vaughn) or Who Needs Forever? (sung by Astrud Gilberto) as a small example of the musical depth that is Q.


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Reply #23 posted 12/30/05 12:01pm

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novamonkey said:

Everything that man touches turns to gold.
I just listened to his 1962 album Bossa Nova and it's amazing. Thats 20 years before Thriller.
And he turned perhaps my favorite song of all time Stevie Wonders Superwoman almost even better than the original on the Sounds.. And Stuff Like That!! album.
Give if up for the genius that is Q.
worship



And don't forget that Q was one of THE first of our musical elders to see/hear the hip-hop culture as THE future of the musical mainstream.....for better or worse. biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 12/30/05 2:24pm

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hellomoto said:

but dont most people hate 'bad', saying thats where michael muic went wrong. i think people forget quincy produced that.

Bad is a fantastic piece of work. I dont know where people get off calling it anything but fantastic.
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Reply #25 posted 12/30/05 2:25pm

dreamfactory31
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Q is simply the genius above all geniuses left on earth.
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Reply #26 posted 12/30/05 2:53pm

gargamelgibson


worship
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Reply #27 posted 12/30/05 3:55pm

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gargamelgibson said:


worship


gargamelgibson? falloff
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Reply #28 posted 12/30/05 5:16pm

gargamelgibson

RipHer2Shreds said:

gargamelgibson? falloff


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Reply #29 posted 01/02/06 3:12am

DavidEye

Quincy is a genuis,indeed.His 70s albums are incredible.However,I don't like his recent albums.Too many damn guest stars and rappers!! I bought his 1995 album 'Q's Jook Joint' but I eventually sold it....I wanna hear Quincy,not a bunch of rappers! Unfortunately,he is still continuing down this tired road.His upcoming CD will feature Snoop and Dr.Dre on a track disbelief
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