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Reply #90 posted 12/31/05 10:56am

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manthevan said:



I am pretty certain he had sex with Lisa Marie but I very much doubt he had sex with Debbie Rowe and no way those kids are his biological!


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Paris´ body is a copy of Michael´s though.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #91 posted 12/31/05 11:13am

CinisterCee

You know, Oprah asking him about his sex life was super personal. I can understand why MJ wouldn't want to answer it on live global TV. Why assume he was a virgin?
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Reply #92 posted 12/31/05 2:48pm

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CinisterCee said:

You know, Oprah asking him about his sex life was super personal. I can understand why MJ wouldn't want to answer it on live global TV. Why assume he was a virgin?







"He ain't seen no paaaaarts of the pussyyyyy!!!!!"



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Reply #93 posted 12/31/05 2:58pm

VoicesCarry

CalhounSq said:

CinisterCee said:

You know, Oprah asking him about his sex life was super personal. I can understand why MJ wouldn't want to answer it on live global TV. Why assume he was a virgin?







"He ain't seen no paaaaarts of the pussyyyyy!!!!!"



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Reply #94 posted 12/31/05 7:25pm

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squiddyren said:

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While I agree with you that "Off the wall"would be his least commercial album, I will have to disagree with the statement questioning his use of "trendy" producers and guest artists. These producers are by no means trendy and neither are the artist that appeared on the album. He is just like every other artist out there, that wants the best. The fact that he brought in people like, Biggie and Shaq only helped their credibility.


So Jam & Lewis, Dallas Austin, R. Kelly, Shaq, and others WEREN'T what was hot in '94-'95? To each his own. neutral


I never said that they were not hot producers, they were at that time. You were the one that used the term "trendy". To me, trendy and hot do not mean the same thing.
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Reply #95 posted 01/01/06 6:55am

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invincible is his worst album, which is sad as his previous one to that is his best.


Blood On The Dancefloor? I prefer HIStory myself razz

No, but there's some awesome songs on Invincible. The first 3 songs sound similar but they're catchy and I really like them. Speechless is beautiful, Butterflies, Whatever Happens, The Lost Children (cheesy I know). You Rock My World too nod
Even 2000 Watts is not as bad as when I first heard it neutral

I listen to Invincible more than I do Thriller. I only put Thriller on to listen to Billie Jean or WBSS usually, and I can hear them on HIStory.
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Reply #96 posted 01/01/06 7:55am

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Mikeypoo started losing his talent when he made off the wall. It's still great and have some of the funky vibe the last real Jacksons album had but it was definitely downhill after that to me. Thriller is okay, Bad is a little less okay but still marginal, Dangerous was somewhat Bombastic but hollow. History was over the top. (Greatest Hits and new cd all in one, insane) and seemed to be released by an egomaniac who figured if he made twenty million bowel movements and packaged them in a cd case they'd all sell movements. I won't even go in to invincible because I'm not gonna lie, I haven't heard it except for the singles.

As far as his voice goes, he started losing that after the nose jobs, a redundant thing to say but his voice is more shrill and lost a little fullness that it had on his earlier adult vocals. It's not a drastic difference but it's there and the loss seemed to increase with every album.
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Reply #97 posted 01/01/06 9:49am

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kdj997 said:

Mikeypoo started losing his talent when he made off the wall. It's still great and have some of the funky vibe the last real Jacksons album had but it was definitely downhill after that to me. Thriller is okay, Bad is a little less okay but still marginal, Dangerous was somewhat Bombastic but hollow. History was over the top. (Greatest Hits and new cd all in one, insane) and seemed to be released by an egomaniac who figured if he made twenty million bowel movements and packaged them in a cd case they'd all sell movements. I won't even go in to invincible because I'm not gonna lie, I haven't heard it except for the singles.

As far as his voice goes, he started losing that after the nose jobs, a redundant thing to say but his voice is more shrill and lost a little fullness that it had on his earlier adult vocals. It's not a drastic difference but it's there and the loss seemed to increase with every album.


I would have to agree. 25 plus years later, I can still put on "Off the Wall" and enjoy it. I'm afraid that I cannot say the same for the rest of his catalouge.
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Reply #98 posted 01/01/06 1:25pm

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MJ hasn't "lost it"...he is an artist. His way of life may not be suitable to most, however look at some of the great artists who were not what most consider "normal" (like Warhol or Beethoven for instance). MJ is definitley talented....too bad he has not spent more time cultivating that instead of wasting time on other stuff.
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Reply #99 posted 01/01/06 1:41pm

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MJ is music, he cant lose it ever! Thats like saying someone who makes coffee for Starbucks will wake up one morning and forget was a latte is. In my opinion, people just didnt give Invincible proper attention and all the crap surrounding the Sony thing just ruined it. Same with Damita Jo, that album is better than All for You yet sold like 20% of its numbers and on and on. Prince apparently lost it in 1994 and people dismissed his music as "crap" yet he pulls out TGE and Emancipation in less than two years.
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Reply #100 posted 01/01/06 1:50pm

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kdj997 said:

Mikeypoo started losing his talent when he made off the wall. It's still great and have some of the funky vibe the last real Jacksons album had but it was definitely downhill after that to me. Thriller is okay, Bad is a little less okay but still marginal, Dangerous was somewhat Bombastic but hollow. History was over the top. (Greatest Hits and new cd all in one, insane) and seemed to be released by an egomaniac who figured if he made twenty million bowel movements and packaged them in a cd case they'd all sell movements. I won't even go in to invincible because I'm not gonna lie, I haven't heard it except for the singles.

As far as his voice goes, he started losing that after the nose jobs, a redundant thing to say but his voice is more shrill and lost a little fullness that it had on his earlier adult vocals. It's not a drastic difference but it's there and the loss seemed to increase with every album.



I totally disagree with you. I mean I look at Michael's music like a fine wine, not counting "Invincible." I mean I think HIStory (Disc 2) and BOTDF (The new tracks) were AMAZING. If Michael's music would have continued on that path..wowza! drool Sure, Privacy (from Invincible) kind of had the HIStory (Disc 2) vibe, but not for me. I hope Michael's next album is really personal. I know everyone is hoping for a nice "jamming" album. But, I'd rather hear Michael's feelings and views on things. If you want "jamming" stuff..go dig up any of the albums by The Jacksons. (Destiny and Triumph are thumbs up!) "Victory" had its moments but overall..meh (IMO.)

I think Michael really lost it music wise with "Invincible" but I think he can get it back. The song "We've Had Enough" shows just how amazing Michael's voice still is.
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Reply #101 posted 01/01/06 2:00pm

VoicesCarry

jasonstar said:

kdj997 said:

Mikeypoo started losing his talent when he made off the wall. It's still great and have some of the funky vibe the last real Jacksons album had but it was definitely downhill after that to me. Thriller is okay, Bad is a little less okay but still marginal, Dangerous was somewhat Bombastic but hollow. History was over the top. (Greatest Hits and new cd all in one, insane) and seemed to be released by an egomaniac who figured if he made twenty million bowel movements and packaged them in a cd case they'd all sell movements. I won't even go in to invincible because I'm not gonna lie, I haven't heard it except for the singles.

As far as his voice goes, he started losing that after the nose jobs, a redundant thing to say but his voice is more shrill and lost a little fullness that it had on his earlier adult vocals. It's not a drastic difference but it's there and the loss seemed to increase with every album.



I totally disagree with you. I mean I look at Michael's music like a fine wine, not counting "Invincible." I mean I think HIStory (Disc 2) and BOTDF (The new tracks) were AMAZING. If Michael's music would have continued on that path..wowza! drool Sure, Privacy (from Invincible) kind of had the HIStory (Disc 2) vibe, but not for me. I hope Michael's next album is really personal. I know everyone is hoping for a nice "jamming" album. But, I'd rather hear Michael's feelings and views on things. If you want "jamming" stuff..go dig up any of the albums by The Jacksons. (Destiny and Triumph are thumbs up!) "Victory" had its moments but overall..meh (IMO.)

I think Michael really lost it music wise with "Invincible" but I think he can get it back. The song "We've Had Enough" shows just how amazing Michael's voice still is.


He is too much of a perfectionist. I did not like Invincible, either, except for Butterflies.
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Reply #102 posted 01/01/06 5:52pm

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VoicesCarry said:

jasonstar said:




I totally disagree with you. I mean I look at Michael's music like a fine wine, not counting "Invincible." I mean I think HIStory (Disc 2) and BOTDF (The new tracks) were AMAZING. If Michael's music would have continued on that path..wowza! drool Sure, Privacy (from Invincible) kind of had the HIStory (Disc 2) vibe, but not for me. I hope Michael's next album is really personal. I know everyone is hoping for a nice "jamming" album. But, I'd rather hear Michael's feelings and views on things. If you want "jamming" stuff..go dig up any of the albums by The Jacksons. (Destiny and Triumph are thumbs up!) "Victory" had its moments but overall..meh (IMO.)

I think Michael really lost it music wise with "Invincible" but I think he can get it back. The song "We've Had Enough" shows just how amazing Michael's voice still is.


He is too much of a perfectionist. I did not like Invincible, either, except for Butterflies.


the only reason butterflies was good is because it was a rip from i cant help it from off the wall wink
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Reply #103 posted 01/01/06 6:09pm

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prettymansson said:

VoicesCarry said:



He is too much of a perfectionist. I did not like Invincible, either, except for Butterflies.


the only reason butterflies was good is because it was a rip from i cant help it from off the wall wink


I thought the "Break Of Dawn" hook was weird in that it was like De La Soul's "Breakadawn"... which sampled Smokey Robinson's "Quiet Storm" vocals on top of MJ's own "I Can't Help It".

music De La Soul "Breakadawn"
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Reply #104 posted 01/01/06 6:15pm

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CinisterCee said:

prettymansson said:



the only reason butterflies was good is because it was a rip from i cant help it from off the wall wink


I thought the "Break Of Dawn" hook was weird in that it was like De La Soul's "Breakadawn"... which sampled Smokey Robinson's "Quiet Storm" vocals on top of MJ's own "I Can't Help It".

music De La Soul "Breakadawn"



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