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Thread started 12/29/05 11:38am

GangstaFam

Joy Division to record new material? :confuse:

This oughta be interesting. From New Order Online:


New Order are working on new material for the long-awaited biopic of former Joy Division singer Ian Curtis.

Director and celebrated rock photographer Anton Corbijn - most renowned for his work with U2 - has asked the legendary Manchester four-piece to contribute songs to the film 'Control'.

The biopic, which is based on a book by Ian's widow Deborah, had been planned for a number of years, but the late singer's family were never happy with the proposals until earlier this year.

Bassist Peter Hook told NME: "We were asked to do the soundtrack to the film which I thought was a fucking great idea, for Joy Division to do the music for a Joy Division film because we've never really done a soundtrack before. The soundtrack could include new stuff. Basically Anton wants to use certain songs by Joy Division so that each song becomes a video. Like the way the 'Atmosphere' video was filmed, he wants to write videos that appear in the film.

"Every time we get accolades for Joy Division it makes [Ian's suicide] sadder, especially with the film. Working on the film has made the whole thing seem more poignant."

It is 25 years since Curtis was found hanging in his home. As a mark of respect to their former singer, New Order have been throwing in Joy Division songs during most of their sets throughout 2005. This culminated in the band playing a set almost entirely made up of Joy Division songs last month, as a tribute to the former Radio 1 DJ John Peel.

Hooky said the band are considering playing all-Joy Division sets at some stage in the future. He added: "We have actually talked about doing Joy Division sets and gigs but we haven't actually found our footing yet. We did the festivals and had a bit of time off but because we've played two gigs recently and had the whole UK Hall Of Fame thing we haven't really decided what we're gonna do next. If we deem it to be enjoyable then we'll do it."

Casting for 'Control' is set to begin next spring and the production team are looking for a big screen actor to play the part of Curtis.
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Reply #1 posted 12/29/05 11:53am

Anxiety

well, it's virtually joy division. either that's what he meant, or it was a typo. though it would be a little like love & rockets calling themselves bauhaus. confused
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Reply #2 posted 12/29/05 11:55am

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Anxiety said:

well, it's virtually joy division. either that's what he meant, or it was a typo. though it would be a little like love & rockets calling themselves bauhaus. confused


Yeah, seems a bit odd. I have no problem with NO doing new stuff for the film, but can they really call it JD without Ian? I think not.
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Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #3 posted 12/29/05 11:57am

Anxiety

JediMaster said:

Anxiety said:

well, it's virtually joy division. either that's what he meant, or it was a typo. though it would be a little like love & rockets calling themselves bauhaus. confused


Yeah, seems a bit odd. I have no problem with NO doing new stuff for the film, but can they really call it JD without Ian? I think not.


well, if the who can keep calling themselves the who even if it's just pete and roger, then i think JD is well within their rights to use that name without ian...though i think in both cases, it's kinda cheesy.
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Reply #4 posted 12/29/05 12:06pm

CinisterCee

That's like Apollonia 6 calling themselves Vanity 6. disbelief
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Reply #5 posted 12/29/05 12:07pm

GangstaFam

CinisterCee said:

That's like Apollonia 6 calling themselves Vanity 6. disbelief

not quite! lol
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Reply #6 posted 12/29/05 12:08pm

GangstaFam

hey, at least they're not pulling an INXS.
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Reply #7 posted 12/29/05 12:09pm

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Anxiety said:

JediMaster said:



Yeah, seems a bit odd. I have no problem with NO doing new stuff for the film, but can they really call it JD without Ian? I think not.


well, if the who can keep calling themselves the who even if it's just pete and roger, then i think JD is well within their rights to use that name without ian...though i think in both cases, it's kinda cheesy.


I guess I don't have a problem with it if they call themselves JD IF they do instrumentals. To me, JD without Ian is New Order, plain and simple.
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Reply #8 posted 12/29/05 12:10pm

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GangstaFam said:

hey, at least they're not pulling an INXS.


hmm Was I supposed to make a parallel in very low taste there?
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Reply #9 posted 12/29/05 12:10pm

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GangstaFam said:

hey, at least they're not pulling an INXS.


ill Oh my, I think I'm gonna have nightmares about that!
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Reply #10 posted 12/29/05 12:11pm

Anxiety

JediMaster said:

Anxiety said:



well, if the who can keep calling themselves the who even if it's just pete and roger, then i think JD is well within their rights to use that name without ian...though i think in both cases, it's kinda cheesy.


I guess I don't have a problem with it if they call themselves JD IF they do instrumentals. To me, JD without Ian is New Order, plain and simple.


But if anyone has the right to call themselves "Joy Division", it would be the surviving members, no? I'm not saying I think it's a classy idea or even necessarily an appropriate one, but I can "get" the logic on some level...I s'pose...
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Reply #11 posted 12/29/05 12:16pm

GangstaFam

Anxiety said:

But if anyone has the right to call themselves "Joy Division", it would be the surviving members, no? I'm not saying I think it's a classy idea or even necessarily an appropriate one, but I can "get" the logic on some level...I s'pose...

Well, they have been performing Joy Division songs live and recently did an entirely Joy Division 6 song set. And I think they have every right to - they wrote those songs. And I find it touching when I've seen or heard them do stuff like "Love Will Tear Us Apart" or "Atmosphere". They've been discussing doing more gigs like that in the future and I say more power to 'em. As long as Bernard is singing and the 3 of them are playing, I got no beef.
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Reply #12 posted 12/29/05 12:16pm

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CinisterCee said:

hmm Was I supposed to make a parallel in very low taste there?

Sure! mr.green
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Reply #13 posted 12/29/05 12:22pm

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GangstaFam said:

Anxiety said:

But if anyone has the right to call themselves "Joy Division", it would be the surviving members, no? I'm not saying I think it's a classy idea or even necessarily an appropriate one, but I can "get" the logic on some level...I s'pose...

Well, they have been performing Joy Division songs live and recently did an entirely Joy Division 6 song set. And I think they have every right to - they wrote those songs. And I find it touching when I've seen or heard them do stuff like "Love Will Tear Us Apart" or "Atmosphere". They've been discussing doing more gigs like that in the future and I say more power to 'em. As long as Bernard is singing and the 3 of them are playing, I got no beef.


They certainly have the right, I just feel it's a little weird. Don't get me wrong, I love it when NO does JD songs, and I'm really happy they are including more and more of that stuff in their sets. I just think that the difference between the two bands is Ian. It doesn't piss me off or anything, as long as they aren't bringing in anyone else to the mix. They can call themselves whatever they want and I'll be cool. I just think using the JD name should be done carefully.
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Reply #14 posted 12/29/05 12:22pm

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GangstaFam said:

CinisterCee said:

hmm Was I supposed to make a parallel in very low taste there?

Sure! mr.green


no no no! evillol
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Reply #15 posted 12/29/05 12:27pm

GangstaFam

JediMaster said:

They certainly have the right, I just feel it's a little weird. Don't get me wrong, I love it when NO does JD songs, and I'm really happy they are including more and more of that stuff in their sets. I just think that the difference between the two bands is Ian. It doesn't piss me off or anything, as long as they aren't bringing in anyone else to the mix. They can call themselves whatever they want and I'll be cool. I just think using the JD name should be done carefully.

I'm sure it will be. They've always been extremely strict with themselves regarding their ethics. They're even more hardcore about it than most punk bands. A band that's achieved as much success as they have as indie artists, rarely including their image on album artwork or videos, never lipsyncing, etc. I admire them hugely for their stance on promotion and artistic integrity.
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Reply #16 posted 12/29/05 2:20pm

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JediMaster said:

Anxiety said:

well, it's virtually joy division. either that's what he meant, or it was a typo. though it would be a little like love & rockets calling themselves bauhaus. confused


Yeah, seems a bit odd. I have no problem with NO doing new stuff for the film, but can they really call it JD without Ian? I think not.


PLEASE! It's only that they decided a long time ago to change thier name in the first place that we have this issue. I think that the music would have emerged almost the same though not sure how the vocals would have been. But there are plenty of bands that actually keep thier name even though the line up has changed or a member passed on.

I have to add I say this with Deep respect for JD/NO and the fans of either or both.
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