lilgish said: I like Bon's voice better, though I like Johnson AC/DC Hard call for me. Highway to Hell is my favorite so I guess I like Bon AC/DC the most. a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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CinisterCee said: AMEN! | |
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UndercovaBrotha said: I'd add Annie Lennox to the female category.
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Anxiety said: great rock voices (male)
La Bowie (of course) Iggy Pop Joey Ramone Lemmy Kilmeister David Byrne Paul McCartney ("Helter Skelter"? "Why Don't We Do It In The Road"? c'mon) John Lennon Ozzy Lux Interior Kurt Cobain Trent Reznor Okay, I'll probably get the brick for this but I don't really dig Bowie's & McCartney's voices I know they're legends & all just going on the quality of the voice?? Granted I haven't been exposed enough to either BUT when I hear them on a song I don't TRULY dig, I'd rather leave it than take it. Alright, hit me | |
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Cheek said: UndercovaBrotha said: I'd add Annie Lennox to the female category.
I love her voice But she doesn't strike me as simply rock - she can sing anything, very soulful sounding voice. I'm sure someone will school me on the whole genre/origin thing... I guess I'm just thinking of folks who's voices are suitable primarily for rock... | |
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weepingwall said: CinisterCee said: AMEN! Who dat? | |
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jjhunsecker said: Nobody has mentioned Mick Jagger or Robert Plant ??? For shame ....
I think I like Jagger's style more than I like his voice... | |
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Natisse said: Jim Morrison
Freddie Mercury David Bowie Jeff Martin the list could go on forever... Never found Freddie Mercury's voice appealing Perhaps I don't like rock as much as I think I should | |
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OdysseyMiles said: I don't think this one's been mentioned:
Richard Patrick And we can't forget my man: Layne Staley I'll have to look them up. Are they in groups or solo artists? :::looks it up::: | |
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theAudience said: If I remember correctly, the last time this came up there was a difference of opinion as to what was considered "ROCK".
Anyway, my definition would be closest to Classic Rock and that being the case... Little Richard Doug Pinnick Paul Rodgers Tina Turner Joyce Kennedy Betty Davis Nona Hendryx Ronnie James Dio Steve Marriott Steve Winwood Rod Stewart (early era) ...these are some of the vocalists that come to mind. tA Tribal Disorder http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I remember Nona's voice being the shit But I still don't know enough about her. And I REALLY need to dig into Little Richard's old stuff & see what's doing. He probably has some amazing shit! | |
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Anxiety said: chuckaducci said: My voice teacher had nothing but denigration for Janis Joplin's voice; I must agree with her. There was nothing musical about her gravelly screaming and shouting.
There is a difference between singing and emoting. i find that people who study singing hate rock vocalists because it's just, to them, "someone tearing up their voice" and it's "a bunch of yelling". sorry, but i could get more emotion from a janis joplin album than i ever could from a choral performance...and i've heard some really beautiful choral performances in my life. sometimes i think education can make us blind to experiencing things with instinct. i'm not saying this is how you or your teacher are not able to appreciate janis...i'm just saying that's been my experience. I thought Janice's voice was cool. | |
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Now I'm listening to my Blondie CDs!!!
Don't forget about Debbie Harry!!! | |
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CalhounSq said: weepingwall said: AMEN! Who dat? Morrissey or should i say Morrissey [Edited 12/29/05 4:26am] | |
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Corey Glover! How do you forget one of THE greatest voices in the history of music... period? | |
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CalhounSq said: OdysseyMiles said: Richard Patrick
And we can't forget my man: Layne Staley I'll have to look them up. Are they in groups or solo artists? :::looks it up::: They're (were) in groups. Richard Patrick was in Filter (now in the supergroup Army of Anyone) and the late Layne Staley (1967-2002) was a part of the great Alice In Chains. Please do look them up. Lots of great tunes between the two of them. | |
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chuckaducci said: Only someone who's not a musician would say that. I've seen some of your posts and I think you're a writer/journalist; would you mind if a writer said "You don't need to learn how to write sometimes cos a writing education may blind you to experiencing things with instinct." Nope. You cannot break the rules until you learn them. actually, i played drums from the time i was a little boy through my college years, i was in orchestra band through most of my junior high and high school years, i was in a rock band for a couple of years in college, where i also studied pop vocals for a couple of years and did some musical theater, my mother was a singer and a rock drummer in the '60s and her band opened for acts like reo speedwagon (yes, they were around back then) and kenny rogers (back when he was psychadelic, not when he was country); my grandparents were musicians as well - my grandmother played steel guitar and my grandfather played acoustic guitar, banjo and harmonica, and my grandparents would often perform together at local bars. so i like to think it's safe to say i come from a musical background. though let's say i *AM* just a writer and not a musician (which you could get me on as a technicality since i haven't sat behind a set in years). i think your comment is interesting on its own, without even having to point out the presumption that i have no musical training or experience: i actually DO believe that too much education can blind good writing sometimes. the keyword here is SOMETIMES. i think some people have such a strong instinctual voice that to throw a bunch of literature at them and say "you should be writing like THIS and THIS and THIS" could seriously damage the voice that they already have, creating a pressure to produce work that resembles what already exists in the world. this isn't to say that people shouldn't be sheltered from knowledge - of course not. but there is a lot to be said for art created from instinct, and unfortunately that's a point of view that goes largely unrespected in today's society because it is not considered "proficient". i disagree. | |
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CalhounSq said: Anxiety said: great rock voices (male)
La Bowie (of course) Iggy Pop Joey Ramone Lemmy Kilmeister David Byrne Paul McCartney ("Helter Skelter"? "Why Don't We Do It In The Road"? c'mon) John Lennon Ozzy Lux Interior Kurt Cobain Trent Reznor Okay, I'll probably get the brick for this but I don't really dig Bowie's & McCartney's voices I know they're legends & all just going on the quality of the voice?? Granted I haven't been exposed enough to either BUT when I hear them on a song I don't TRULY dig, I'd rather leave it than take it. Alright, hit me i won't hit you until you tell me you've heard bowie's recording of 'wild is the wind' and you STILL don't think his voice is all that. after that, sure, you get the brick. | |
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Anxiety said: actually, i played drums from the time i was a little boy through my college years, i was in orchestra band through most of my junior high and high school years, i was in a rock band for a couple of years in college, where i also studied pop vocals for a couple of years and did some musical theater, my mother was a singer and a rock drummer in the '60s and her band opened for acts like reo speedwagon (yes, they were around back then) and kenny rogers (back when he was psychadelic, not when he was country); my grandparents were musicians as well - my grandmother played steel guitar and my grandfather played acoustic guitar, banjo and harmonica, and my grandparents would often perform together at local bars. so i like to think it's safe to say i come from a musical background. though let's say i *AM* just a writer and not a musician (which you could get me on as a technicality since i haven't sat behind a set in years). i think your comment is interesting on its own, without even having to point out the presumption that i have no musical training or experience: Presumptions are either wrong or right. Either you've studied music or you haven't. It doesn't matter if you come from a musical background; your grandmother's theory lessons weren't automatically bestowed upon you on birth so coming from a musical background is only a part of the quest for a musician. i actually DO believe that too much education can blind good writing sometimes. the keyword here is SOMETIMES. i think some people have such a strong instinctual voice that to throw a bunch of literature at them and say "you should be writing like THIS and THIS and THIS" could seriously damage the voice that they already have, creating a pressure to produce work that resembles what already exists in the world.
As far as music is concerned, I've never come across an instructor who told me to "play like this or write like this"; rather, they only tried to instill in me the fundaments of music and to harness and channel my own talents. If anyone ever had an instructor who told them what you just described, that's not a teacher, that's a robot. So of course, a situation such as the one you described (which is an extreme) is a detriment. this isn't to say that people shouldn't be sheltered from knowledge - of course not. but there is a lot to be said for art created from instinct, and unfortunately that's a point of view that goes largely unrespected in today's society because it is not considered "proficient". i disagree.
Hmm, Beethoven's instincts were non pareil; he could improvise with the best of them. Yet, he STILL fell under the hand of Haydn and Mozart. I don't see why any artist wouldn't want to learn the fundaments of their art form if only to enhance their art and perhaps, lead them to shattering conventions, if they be rebellious by nature, like Beethoven. | |
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chuckaducci said: Anxiety said: actually, i played drums from the time i was a little boy through my college years, i was in orchestra band through most of my junior high and high school years, i was in a rock band for a couple of years in college, where i also studied pop vocals for a couple of years and did some musical theater, my mother was a singer and a rock drummer in the '60s and her band opened for acts like reo speedwagon (yes, they were around back then) and kenny rogers (back when he was psychadelic, not when he was country); my grandparents were musicians as well - my grandmother played steel guitar and my grandfather played acoustic guitar, banjo and harmonica, and my grandparents would often perform together at local bars. so i like to think it's safe to say i come from a musical background. though let's say i *AM* just a writer and not a musician (which you could get me on as a technicality since i haven't sat behind a set in years). i think your comment is interesting on its own, without even having to point out the presumption that i have no musical training or experience: Presumptions are either wrong or right. Either you've studied music or you haven't. It doesn't matter if you come from a musical background; your grandmother's theory lessons weren't automatically bestowed upon you on birth so coming from a musical background is only a part of the quest for a musician. As far as music is concerned, I've never come across an instructor who told me to "play like this or write like this"; rather, they only tried to instill in me the fundaments of music and to harness and channel my own talents. If anyone ever had an instructor who told them what you just described, that's not a teacher, that's a robot. So of course, a situation such as the one you described (which is an extreme) is a detriment. this isn't to say that people shouldn't be sheltered from knowledge - of course not. but there is a lot to be said for art created from instinct, and unfortunately that's a point of view that goes largely unrespected in today's society because it is not considered "proficient". i disagree.
Hmm, Beethoven's instincts were non pareil; he could improvise with the best of them. Yet, he STILL fell under the hand of Haydn and Mozart. I don't see why any artist wouldn't want to learn the fundaments of their art form if only to enhance their art and perhaps, lead them to shattering conventions, if they be rebellious by nature, like Beethoven. i know this one dude who taught himself how to play a bunch of instruments when he was a kid...he had musician parents, though i'm sure that had little to do with the development of his talent, like you said. he only had a high school education, and he wasn't even out of his teens before he got a record contract with warner bros. ya probably haven't heard of the guy, though... | |
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Anxiety said: chuckaducci said: Hmm, Beethoven's instincts were non pareil; he could improvise with the best of them. Yet, he STILL fell under the hand of Haydn and Mozart. I don't see why any artist wouldn't want to learn the fundaments of their art form if only to enhance their art and perhaps, lead them to shattering conventions, if they be rebellious by nature, like Beethoven. i know this one dude who taught himself how to play a bunch of instruments when he was a kid...he had musician parents, though i'm sure that had little to do with the development of his talent, like you said. he only had a high school education, and he wasn't even out of his teens before he got a record contract with warner bros. ya probably haven't heard of the guy, though... is it pronce? princesse's cousin? | |
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tina turner. I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Rod Stewart
Little Richard Freddie Mercury Robert Plant Mick Jagger Paul McCartney Steven Tyler Tina Turner David Bowie Janis Joplin Steve Winwood Sting Peter Gabriel Joyce Kennedy ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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Anxiety said: CalhounSq said: Okay, I'll probably get the brick for this but I don't really dig Bowie's & McCartney's voices I know they're legends & all just going on the quality of the voice?? Granted I haven't been exposed enough to either BUT when I hear them on a song I don't TRULY dig, I'd rather leave it than take it. Alright, hit me i won't hit you until you tell me you've heard bowie's recording of 'wild is the wind' and you STILL don't think his voice is all that. after that, sure, you get the brick. NEVER heard it I'll have to seek that out | |
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