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Thread started 12/28/05 4:13am

CalhounSq

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great ROCK voices???

Who do you guys think have great rock voices? smile

I'm not really up on the genre, I just have a few folks who's voices I like pretty consistenly - not the greatest singers, but they all have great qualities to their voices IMO. I'm curious to hear other opinions.

Voices I like:

Chris Cornell exclaim
Steven Tyler
Scott Weiland
Billy Joe Armstrong


Beth Hart exclaim
Nikka Costa exclaim


DAMN, mostly men eek



Y'all enlighten me: what are your picks for GREAT rock voices?
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #1 posted 12/28/05 4:17am

Anxiety

Great Rock Voices (Female)

Joan Jett
Courtney Love
Brody Dalle (from The Distillers)
Pat Benatar
Ann Wilson (from Heart)
Patti Smith
Janis Joplin
Tina Turner
Skin (from Skunk Anasie)
Kim Gordon
Kim Deal
Ronnie Spector (without her, there would have been no Joey Ramone)
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Reply #2 posted 12/28/05 4:28am

CalhounSq

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Anxiety said:

Great Rock Voices (Female)

Joan Jett
Courtney Love
Brody Dalle (from The Distillers)
Pat Benatar
Ann Wilson (from Heart)
Patti Smith
Janis Joplin
Tina Turner
Skin (from Skunk Anasie)
Kim Gordon
Kim Deal
Ronnie Spector (without her, there would have been no Joey Ramone)


Thanks Anx! smile I love me some Courtney Love, don't know why I left her off the list confused Tina Turner too, damn! err

I need to get up on some of these folks, never heard of some of them (Brody, Skin, the Kim's) lol
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Reply #3 posted 12/28/05 5:25am

Anxiety

great rock voices (male)

La Bowie (of course)
Iggy Pop
Joey Ramone
Lemmy Kilmeister
David Byrne
Paul McCartney ("Helter Skelter"? "Why Don't We Do It In The Road"? c'mon)
John Lennon
Ozzy
Lux Interior
Kurt Cobain
Trent Reznor
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Reply #4 posted 12/28/05 5:41am

Cheek

Anxiety said:

great rock voices (male)

La Bowie (of course)
Iggy Pop
Joey Ramone
Lemmy Kilmeister
David Byrne
Paul McCartney ("Helter Skelter"? "Why Don't We Do It In The Road"? c'mon)
John Lennon
Ozzy
Lux Interior
Kurt Cobain
Trent Reznor


worship

I'd like to add Freddy Mercury and Meat Loaf!!! mr.green
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Reply #5 posted 12/28/05 5:45am

LightOfArt

David Coverdale
Ian Gillan
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Reply #6 posted 12/28/05 5:51am

Anxiety

Cheek said:

Anxiety said:

great rock voices (male)

La Bowie (of course)
Iggy Pop
Joey Ramone
Lemmy Kilmeister
David Byrne
Paul McCartney ("Helter Skelter"? "Why Don't We Do It In The Road"? c'mon)
John Lennon
Ozzy
Lux Interior
Kurt Cobain
Trent Reznor


worship

I'd like to add Freddy Mercury and Meat Loaf!!! mr.green


freddie, of course! how could i forget him?
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Reply #7 posted 12/28/05 9:20am

theVelvetRoper

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Eddie Vedder
Scott Weiland
Jim Morrison
Tina Turner
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #8 posted 12/28/05 10:18am

chuckaducci

My voice teacher had nothing but denigration for Janis Joplin's voice; I must agree with her. There was nothing musical about her gravelly screaming and shouting.

There is a difference between singing and emoting.
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Reply #9 posted 12/28/05 10:21am

Axchi696

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Axl
I'm the first mammal to wear pants.
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Reply #10 posted 12/28/05 10:37am

dancerella

Axchi696 said:

Axl



I second that emotion! I would also like to add...

Courtney Love
Andrew Wood (mother love bone)
I know this will sound bizzare but Mary J. Blige! She sang love is a battle field on the VH1 Divas show a few years ago and tore it up. I think she has a great voice for rock and would love to see her do a rock album.
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Reply #11 posted 12/28/05 10:39am

andyman91

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chuckaducci said:

My voice teacher had nothing but denigration for Janis Joplin's voice; I must agree with her. There was nothing musical about her gravelly screaming and shouting.

There is a difference between singing and emoting.


Voice teachers tend to not know the first thing about ROCK singing. They teach you how to sing with a pure voice, and remove any edge--edge which is crucial to rock singing.

My list:
Kurt Cobain
John Lennon
young Elvis
Janis Joplin
Tina Turner

Damn, mostly dead!
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Reply #12 posted 12/28/05 11:05am

Anxiety

chuckaducci said:

My voice teacher had nothing but denigration for Janis Joplin's voice; I must agree with her. There was nothing musical about her gravelly screaming and shouting.

There is a difference between singing and emoting.


i find that people who study singing hate rock vocalists because it's just, to them, "someone tearing up their voice" and it's "a bunch of yelling".

sorry, but i could get more emotion from a janis joplin album than i ever could from a choral performance...and i've heard some really beautiful choral performances in my life.

sometimes i think education can make us blind to experiencing things with instinct. i'm not saying this is how you or your teacher are not able to appreciate janis...i'm just saying that's been my experience. shrug
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Reply #13 posted 12/28/05 11:13am

OdysseyMiles

I don't think this one's been mentioned:


Richard Patrick




And we can't forget my man:


Layne Staley
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Reply #14 posted 12/28/05 11:37am

Militant

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Kurt Cobain
Courtney Love
Axl Rose
And how can we be forgetting Jonathan Davis (KoRn) up in here? He's got an amazing voice.
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Reply #15 posted 12/28/05 11:38am

Natisse

Jim Morrison
Freddie Mercury
David Bowie
Jeff Martin

the list could go on forever...
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Reply #16 posted 12/28/05 11:43am

jjhunsecker

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Nobody has mentioned Mick Jagger or Robert Plant ??? For shame ....
#SOCIETYDEFINESU
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Reply #17 posted 12/28/05 12:20pm

dancerella

Marilyn Manson!
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Reply #18 posted 12/28/05 1:38pm

lilgish

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Dio.....
[Edited 12/28/05 13:39pm]
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Reply #19 posted 12/28/05 2:23pm

theAudience

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If I remember correctly, the last time this came up there was a difference of opinion as to what was considered "ROCK".

Anyway, my definition would be closest to Classic Rock and that being the case...

Little Richard
Doug Pinnick
Paul Rodgers
Tina Turner
Joyce Kennedy
Betty Davis
Nona Hendryx
Ronnie James Dio
Steve Marriott
Steve Winwood
Rod Stewart
(early era)
...these are some of the vocalists that come to mind. headbang


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Reply #20 posted 12/28/05 5:23pm

chuckaducci

Anxiety said:

i find that people who study singing hate rock vocalists because it's just, to them, "someone tearing up their voice" and it's "a bunch of yelling".


That may be true, but not in this case. I learned how to "sing" because of rock singers.

sorry, but i could get more emotion from a janis joplin album than i ever could from a choral performance...and i've heard some really beautiful choral performances in my life.


As a musician, I've learned that emotion is not always the object of desire when it comes to music. That being said, Janis Joplin was not a singer, she emoted.

sometimes i think education can make us blind to experiencing things with instinct. i'm not saying this is how you or your teacher are not able to appreciate janis...i'm just saying that's been my experience. shrug


Only someone who's not a musician would say that. I've seen some of your posts and I think you're a writer/journalist; would you mind if a writer said "You don't need to learn how to write sometimes cos a writing education may blind you to experiencing things with instinct." Nope. You cannot break the rules until you learn them.

The reason why I don't enjoy Janis is because she's no control of her voice, she struggles with her pitch and her raspy wailings were horribly unpleasant to my ears.

I'll take Aretha, Bessie Smith and Odetta every day of the week and twice on Sunday before I listen to Janis.


Andyman said:

Voice teachers tend to not know the first thing about ROCK singing. They teach you how to sing with a pure voice, and remove any edge--edge which is crucial to rock singing.


I don't know about most or all voice teachers. I know about one. And he taught me skills that only enhanced my singing, even in a rock context.
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Reply #21 posted 12/28/05 6:35pm

weepingwall

Male singers:
David Bowie
Morrissey
Rozz Williams
Peter Murphy
Rufus Wainwright(i dont think you could classify him as rock..but then the term rock is so banal anyways)
Gavin Friday
Brian Molko(the sheepness of his voice sounds innocent sometimes,the worst has to be on thier first album thought)
Marc Bolan
Billy Corgan(his angry voice of course)..
Nick Cave

Female Singers:
Billie Holiday(Not really rock..but who cares)
Liz Fraser
Tori Amos
Kate Bush
Joni Mitchell
Bjork
Siouxsie Sioux
Tina Turner
Sandie Shaw
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Reply #22 posted 12/28/05 6:39pm

weepingwall

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Marilyn Manson!



the worst singer ever,but he sures now how to cause drama!..
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Reply #23 posted 12/28/05 6:43pm

weepingwall

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And how can we be forgetting Jonathan Davis (KoRn) up in here? He's got an amazing voice.



i agree on the others a tad..but jonathan davis..please..grunting and yelling and the ocassional high pitch "Fuck You" does not move me at all..hence the reason why i think the nu-metal and death metal scene are garbage,i mean anger is good..but soon the topic of anger gets boring..dont get me wrong..i have listen to davis work..it didnt move me..it was "ok"..but i think he had potential only if he caught of that self-loathing wagon that the kind of musicans in his genre typically fall into..of course..shit will always stay shit no matter how much you try to change it...its my opinion only.
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Reply #24 posted 12/28/05 6:44pm

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chuckaducci said:



Only someone who's not a musician would say that. I've seen some of your posts and I think you're a writer/journalist; would you mind if a writer said "You don't need to learn how to write sometimes cos a writing education may blind you to experiencing things with instinct." Nope. You cannot break the rules until you learn them.



actually, i'm something of a writer. okay, well, not really. i can write very well, but i don't make money at it. in any case, i WOULD agree with what you say there. no new form of literature, poetry, playwrighting, etc. was ever created by following the rules.
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Reply #25 posted 12/28/05 7:27pm

Stax

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I'll throw in...


Brian Johnson


Bon Scott
a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on
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Reply #26 posted 12/28/05 8:03pm

Militant

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weepingwall said:[quote]

Militant said:



i agree on the others a tad..but jonathan davis..please..grunting and yelling and the ocassional high pitch "Fuck You" does not move me at all..hence the reason why i think the nu-metal and death metal scene are garbage,i mean anger is good..but soon the topic of anger gets boring..dont get me wrong..i have listen to davis work..it didnt move me..it was "ok"..but i think he had potential only if he caught of that self-loathing wagon that the kind of musicans in his genre typically fall into..of course..shit will always stay shit no matter how much you try to change it...its my opinion only.



You don't sound like you've really explored the nu-metal genre very much...I'd advise you to check out the new KoRn album, Jonathan has moved on very much from the "self-loathing" wagon... Check out "Love Song", it really reminds me of Bowie. And "Tearjerker" and a couple of others sound like something Trent Reznor might have done circa The Downward Spiral era.

I'd also advise you to check out the new Slipknot album "Vol.3", produced by Rick Rubin. Particularly "Vermilion Part 2". Corey Taylor from Slipknot is another singer with an amazing voice.

Death-Metal gets a bit samey to me, but I'm really into bands who push the barriers of it and aren't afraid to try new ideas - Slipknot, Sepultura (up till Max left), Soulfly, Korn.
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Reply #27 posted 12/28/05 8:05pm

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Reply #28 posted 12/28/05 8:10pm

lilgish

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Stax said:

I'll throw in...


Brian Johnson


Bon Scott


that's a good versus thread if I ever seen one

I like Bon's voice better, though I like Johnson AC/DC
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Reply #29 posted 12/28/05 8:29pm

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I'd add Annie Lennox to the female category.

Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours)
If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years)
Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night
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