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Thread started 12/22/05 12:12pm

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Bob Herbert: Enough is enough.

As a hip-hop head for nearly 2 decades, I must say he makes a lot of valid points, except for calling Snoop a "clown."

Blowing the Whistle on Gangsta Culture

Bob Herbert
12.22.05

Edwin "E. J." Duncan was a young man from a decent family who spent a great deal of time with his friends in an amateur recording studio his parents had set up for him in the basement of their home in the Dorchester neighborhood.

It was in that studio that Duncan, along with three of his closest friends, was murdered last week, shot to death by a killer or killers who have yet to be found. Whoever carried out the executions, it seems clear enough to me that young Duncan and his friends were among the latest victims of the profoundly self-destructive cultural influences that have spread like a cancer through much of the black community and beyond.

I keep wondering when leaders of eminence will step forward and declare, unambiguously, that enough is enough, as they did in the heyday of the civil rights movement, when the enemy was white racism.

It is time to blow the whistle on the nitwits who have so successfully promoted a values system that embraces murder, drug-dealing, gang membership, misogyny, child abandonment and a sense of self so diseased that it teaches children to view the men in their orbit as niggaz and the women as hoes.
However this madness developed, it's time to bring it to an end.


I noticed that Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, Snoop Dogg and other "leaders" and celebrities turned out in South Central Los Angeles on Tuesday for the funeral of Stanley "Tookie" Williams, the convicted killer and co-founder of the Crips street gang who was executed in California last week.

I remember talking over the years to parents in Los Angeles and elsewhere who were petrified that their children would be killed in cold blood - summarily executed, without any possibility of a defense or an appeal - by the Crips or some other gang because they just happened to be wearing the wrong color cap or jacket or whatever.

The enthusiastic turnout at Tookie Williams's funeral tells you much of what you need to know about the current state of black leadership in the U.S.

The slaughter of E. J. Duncan, who was 21, and his friends - Jason Bachiller, 21; Jihad Chankhour, 22; and Christopher Vieira, 19 - was all but literally accompanied by a hip-hop soundtrack. Duncan, Bachiller and Vieira were members of a rap group called Graveside, which favored the rough language and violent imagery that has enthralled so many youngsters and bolstered the bottom lines of major entertainment companies.

This mindless celebration of violence, the essence of gangsta rap, is a reflection of the nihilism that has taken root in one neighborhood after another over the past few decades, destroying many, many lives. The authorities here have not suggested that Duncan or his friends were involved in any criminal behavior. But the appeal of the hip-hop environment is strong, and a lot of good kids are striving to conform to images established by clowns like 50 Cent and Snoop Dogg.

The members of Graveside wanted badly to make it as rappers. Said one police officer, "They probably didn't even know they were playing with fire." The Rev. Eugene Rivers, who has been fighting for years to reduce youth violence in Boston and elsewhere, was a neighbor of E. J. Duncan's. "My son Malcolm knew E. J. well," he told me.

He described the murders as a massacre and said he has long been worried about the glorification of violence and antisocial behavior. "Thug life," he said, "is now being globalized," thanks to the powerful marketing influence of international corporations.

This problem is not limited to the black community. E. J. Duncan and his friends came from a variety of ethnic backgrounds. But it is primarily a black problem, and it is impossible to overstate its dimensions.

I understand that jobs are hard to come by for many people, and that many schools are substandard, and that racial discrimination is still widespread. But those are not good reasons for committing cultural suicide.

I'll paraphrase Sam Cooke: A change has got to come. Reasonable standards of behavior that include real respect for life, learning and the law have to be re-established in those segments of the black community where chaos now reigns.

This has to start with a commitment to protect and nurture all of the community's children. That may seem at the moment like a task worthy of Sisyphus because it will require overcoming what the Rev. Rivers has described as "the sins of the fathers who have cursed their sons by their abandonment and neglect."

Sisyphean or not, it's a job that has to be done.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com


My thoughts:

1. The underground gangsta rap era was supposed to be a subgenre. It wasn't supposed to be the primary vehicle for making money. It has inspired tons of wack MCs to pick up a mic. Your level of intelligence and lyrical skill is inversely proportional to your success as an MC these days.

2. It has held hip-hop hostage for way too long. Now gangsta rap is the aesthetic equivalent of watching a late 70's spaghetti western not directed by Leone and not starring Eastwood. It's spawned a host of terrible clones and wannabes that miss the skill and context of the cats who made it famous.
[Edited 12/22/05 12:19pm]
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Reply #1 posted 12/22/05 12:19pm

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wow.
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We all should know that diversity makes for a rich tapestry, and we must understand that all the threads of the tapestry are equal in value no matter what their color.
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Reply #2 posted 12/22/05 12:39pm

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I've always enjoyed Mr. Herbert's columns, going back to the NY Daily News. Great stuff...he's just telling it like it is.
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Reply #3 posted 12/22/05 5:15pm

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Bob Herbert, along with the brilliant Stanley Crouch, are among the few out there "telling it like it is ".

Let's be honest : this "gangsta" nonsense (which is making millions for people like Russell Simmons, Damon Dash, Irv Gotti, and jay-Z) has done more harm to the image of Black people than even minstrel shows did
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Reply #4 posted 12/22/05 6:29pm

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jjhunsecker said:

Bob Herbert, along with the brilliant Stanley Crouch, are among the few out there "telling it like it is ".

Let's be honest : this "gangsta" nonsense (which is making millions for people like Russell Simmons, Damon Dash, Irv Gotti, and jay-Z) has done more harm to the image of Black people than even minstrel shows did



The folks raking in the loot are these record executives who live far away from where the violence is taking place. I don't always agree with Mr. Crouch's conservative politics, but he's right when he called today's rappers "the new minstrels".

I saw rap from its beginning in the South Bronx, and it's a shame seeing how far the genre has fallen.
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Reply #5 posted 12/22/05 6:58pm

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I have to take somewhat of an issue with this article claiming that this is a Black problem. This is a problem for all of us; not just the African-American community. First of all, the major music labels (Universal, Sony/BMG, Warners, EMI) all are profiting immensely by continuing to propogate this culture to the mainstream, Viacom (UPN, MTV, VH1, BET) is making massive amounts of ad money pushing videos. movies and TV shows that objectify women as cheap throwaway sexual commodities, Clear Channel and Infinity Broadcasting (part of Viacom) sell hundreds of millions of dollars or radio ad revenue by pushing regimented playlists of the worst hip hop, Apple and Microsoft sell a lot of electronic hardware and software by promising people the ability to listen and watch "gangsta" rap music and videos at their convenience, and the apparel industry and major retailers (Walmart, Target, Sears) make billions of dollars by selling hip hop merchandise. So if anyone is "going to blow the whistle on the nitwits who have so successfully promoted a values system that embraces murder, drug-dealing, gang membership, misogyny, child abandonment and a sense of self so diseased that it teaches children to view the men in their orbit as niggaz and the women as hoes", then they need to march right into the boardrooms of many of our Fortune 500 companies.

As it is, our children are being sold down the river by the very people who are supposed to protect them, all in the name of commerce and the free market. Instead of dealing with the real issues of poverty, crime, violence, unemployment, and substandard education head on, our leaders have created red herring issues like violent video games, Janet Jackson flashing her boob on TV, and "the war on Christmas" to make it look as though they are outraged at all of the depravity while trying to profit from it at the same time. Most of our major corporate leaders will tell us that this is what the free market wants, but does everyone in the free market want rappers yapping about their penises, telegenic teen starlets who can't sing, and crappy reality shows featuring shameless wannbe movie stars?

I know that the African-American community is most affected by this senseless violence, but when they see little or no community development or jobs in their neighborhoods, good-paying jobs being outsourced to China and India, and college financial aid being cut to pay for further tax breaks for millionaires, what else do they have? All these young people want is what we want, which is to live a better life. And without the resources that more affluent families have, they only have limited choices on how to make it big.

BTW, I saw a promo for one of MTV's shows (I don't know what show) which featured a pretty young blonde girl asking some guy if he has a big penis, whether he masturbates, and telling him that she can put her fist into her mouth. So then is having clueless horny blonde teenagers talking about their oral skills a white problem? Or is it symptomatic of where this country is going as a whole?

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