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Thread started 12/20/05 11:08am

newskin69

Madonna's Confessions...

I think sales will get bigger once "Sorry" rolls around. My reason? When Gwen released L.A.M.B., it wasn't selling too spectacularly until she released Rich Girl, and with Hollaback Girl, sales exploded

Same with Britney's last album. Sales started to slow down until the release of Toxic, which pushed the album.

My point? So far Confessions is selling alright, and with Sorry, it could sale even more
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Reply #1 posted 12/20/05 11:34am

VinnyM27

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newskin69 said:

I think sales will get bigger once "Sorry" rolls around. My reason? When Gwen released L.A.M.B., it wasn't selling too spectacularly until she released Rich Girl, and with Hollaback Girl, sales exploded

Same with Britney's last album. Sales started to slow down until the release of Toxic, which pushed the album.

My point? So far Confessions is selling alright, and with Sorry, it could sale even more


NOt sure that there was a sales push after "Toxic", was there?
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Reply #2 posted 12/20/05 11:52am

thedoorkeeper

newskin69 said:

I think sales will get bigger once "Sorry" rolls around. My reason? When Gwen released L.A.M.B., it wasn't selling too spectacularly until she released Rich Girl, and with Hollaback Girl, sales exploded.


So you think Sorry will be as big a hit as Hollaback Girl?
I wouldn't count on that.
Its nowhere near as catchy.
Its good but its no earworm.
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Reply #3 posted 12/20/05 11:54am

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Still think Sorry will TANK on the U.S. charts, the hook is too subtle.

Jump or Push would do better here, though I'm pretty sure "Hung Up" was her best single shot on the U.S. charts.
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Reply #4 posted 12/20/05 1:03pm

jayaredee

The US charts count mostly on airplay anyways and radio isn't interested in playing Madonna period. So it really doesn't make any relevant statement whether she succeeds on the Hot 100 or not, just look at the world chart and all the other country charts.
HU is a big success everywhere besides the US. Just makes them stick out like a sore thumb and the fact Hollaback Girl was the huge success it was is laughable and adds more irrelevance points to the US charts.
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Reply #5 posted 12/20/05 1:06pm

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VinnyM27 said:

newskin69 said:

I think sales will get bigger once "Sorry" rolls around. My reason? When Gwen released L.A.M.B., it wasn't selling too spectacularly until she released Rich Girl, and with Hollaback Girl, sales exploded

Same with Britney's last album. Sales started to slow down until the release of Toxic, which pushed the album.

My point? So far Confessions is selling alright, and with Sorry, it could sale even more


NOt sure that there was a sales push after "Toxic", was there?



Yeah it was because nobody really wanted In The Zone when it first came out
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Reply #6 posted 12/20/05 1:07pm

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

The US charts count mostly on airplay anyways and radio isn't interested in playing Madonna period. So it really doesn't make any relevant statement whether she succeeds on the Hot 100 or not, just look at the world chart and all the other country charts.
HU is a big success everywhere besides the US. Just makes them stick out like a sore thumb and the fact Hollaback Girl was the huge success it was is laughable and adds more irrelevance points to the US charts.


nod

"Sorry" will not be a hit in the US (unless all the fams buy lots of digital copies like they did for HU), but that's probably a good thing. I don't think the album will suddenly start selling millions of copies in the US because of a runaway hit single. It has sold millions upon millions internationally, and that's all she cares about.
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Reply #7 posted 12/20/05 1:38pm

CinisterCee

I lent a copy of COAD to a guy at work and his picks were "Get Together" and "Push".
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Reply #8 posted 12/20/05 2:17pm

superspaceboy

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newskin69 said:

I think sales will get bigger once "Sorry" rolls around. My reason? When Gwen released L.A.M.B., it wasn't selling too spectacularly until she released Rich Girl, and with Hollaback Girl, sales exploded

Same with Britney's last album. Sales started to slow down until the release of Toxic, which pushed the album.

My point? So far Confessions is selling alright, and with Sorry, it could sale even more


Hollaback Girl...3rd release and pushed Gwens album back up (though I hate that song)

Sorry will do ok...Jump (this albums hollaback girl) will give it the push it needs back up. Still everyone is talking about and loving this album.

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Reply #9 posted 12/20/05 2:18pm

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ABeautifulOne said:

VinnyM27 said:



NOt sure that there was a sales push after "Toxic", was there?



Yeah it was because nobody really wanted In The Zone when it first came out



i did
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #10 posted 12/20/05 2:19pm

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MendesCity said:

Still think Sorry will TANK on the U.S. charts, the hook is too subtle.

Jump or Push would do better here, though I'm pretty sure "Hung Up" was her best single shot on the U.S. charts.


Not one person has even mentioned it as thier favorite off the album. I have a small feeling the other songs will fare even better. Hung up is not the best song on it by far. I've heard others say...

Sorry
Jump
Get Together
and Forbidden love as thier favorites

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Reply #11 posted 12/20/05 2:22pm

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i saw madonna say she really cared aobut the no 1 in a million countries thing with her latest. I guess i shoulda expected that. shame she relies so much on numbers and whatever after she has been in the business for how long? Pretty shallow.
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Reply #12 posted 12/20/05 2:22pm

VoicesCarry

thesexofit said:

i saw madonna say she really cared aobut the no 1 in a million countries thing with her latest. I guess i shoulda expected that. shame she relies so much on numbers and whatever after she has been in the business for how long? Pretty shallow.


I think you are confusing Madonna with Mariah.
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Reply #13 posted 12/20/05 2:24pm

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VoicesCarry said:

thesexofit said:

i saw madonna say she really cared aobut the no 1 in a million countries thing with her latest. I guess i shoulda expected that. shame she relies so much on numbers and whatever after she has been in the business for how long? Pretty shallow.


I think you are confusing Madonna with Mariah.



i saw her say it. No big deal, but just shows she may have grown out of the shock thing she use to do, but not out of always having to be no 1. For her age, she must have some serious insecurities going on. Same with jacko.
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Reply #14 posted 12/20/05 2:26pm

VoicesCarry

thesexofit said:

VoicesCarry said:



I think you are confusing Madonna with Mariah.



i saw her say it. No big deal, but just shows she may have grown out of the shock thing she use to do, but not out of always having to be no 1. For her age, she must have some serious insecurities going on. Same with jacko.


Madonna is a businesswoman so she cares about her sales, as any true businesswoman should. But Mariah and her fans are absolutely nuts when it comes to sales and chart figures etc.
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Reply #15 posted 12/20/05 2:27pm

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thesexofit said:

i saw madonna say she really cared aobut the no 1 in a million countries thing with her latest. I guess i shoulda expected that. shame she relies so much on numbers and whatever after she has been in the business for how long? Pretty shallow.


She doesn't. She was actually humbled by it...cried even. At least that's how I took it.

My take is actually, she doesn't read the press...but she does care about what her fans think. It's important to her. I don't think it to be shallow...I just think it's part of her.If it wasn't, she would not be who she is. I think the backlash she got over the last 2 albums really threw her. SHe never thought any "statement" she made or anything would cause her hardcore to not care anymore. I think that humbled her a bit. And then Hung Up and Confessions comes out and all at once her fans are coming out of the woodwork and embracing her again...not only that but the world at one time said to her "we love you". I am sure that meant a lot to her.

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Reply #16 posted 12/20/05 2:30pm

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thesexofit said:

VoicesCarry said:



I think you are confusing Madonna with Mariah.



i saw her say it. No big deal, but just shows she may have grown out of the shock thing she use to do, but not out of always having to be no 1. For her age, she must have some serious insecurities going on. Same with jacko.


You know for being 47 and 10 studio album...a lot of pressure is put on her (still) by her record company and even herself to sell millions. That's pretty harsh...even by todays standards. By this time most would hope to crack the top ten...let alone have a number one hit around the world.

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Reply #17 posted 12/20/05 2:30pm

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VoicesCarry said:

thesexofit said:




i saw her say it. No big deal, but just shows she may have grown out of the shock thing she use to do, but not out of always having to be no 1. For her age, she must have some serious insecurities going on. Same with jacko.


Madonna is a businesswoman so she cares about her sales, as any true businesswoman should. But Mariah and her fans are absolutely nuts when it comes to sales and chart figures etc.


They use it justify how great Mariah is.

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Reply #18 posted 12/20/05 4:17pm

thedoorkeeper

Rather than start a new thread I'll just ask a question here:
I bought Confessions when it came out at Wal-Mart. I see people posting about the continous mix of Confessions as if it is different. Is it? Is it just one big cut? If I play my version it plays thru like one big song with no breaks. So what is the advantage to the continous mix?
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Reply #19 posted 12/20/05 4:24pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

Rather than start a new thread I'll just ask a question here:
I bought Confessions when it came out at Wal-Mart. I see people posting about the continous mix of Confessions as if it is different. Is it? Is it just one big cut? If I play my version it plays thru like one big song with no breaks. So what is the advantage to the continous mix?



From what I can tell...

CD bought in store of the regular Confessions...All tracked and all "mixed"
CD bought in store of the Limited ed of Confessions...all tracked and unmixed. Includes the bonus track Fighting Spirit

2 versions from iTunes...
One long ass track of Confessions...Mixed and untracked
One Tracked and Unmixed and you get a bonus track Superpop...I think this version exists for 2 reasons...iTunes doesn't handle mixed tracked versions of anything. And if you just wanted a song, you could get it without any leftovers of the song prior or next.

Someone correct me if I am incorrect.

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Reply #20 posted 12/20/05 4:32pm

thedoorkeeper

So the only difference between the store version & the downloadable long ass version is one is tracked & the other isn't?
Then why are some people so excited by the untracked version when there is no differnce in the music between the tracked version & the untracked version?
I thought I was missing out on something when I'm not.
Cool.
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Reply #21 posted 12/20/05 4:47pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

So the only difference between the store version & the downloadable long ass version is one is tracked & the other isn't?
Then why are some people so excited by the untracked version when there is no differnce in the music between the tracked version & the untracked version?
I thought I was missing out on something when I'm not.
Cool.


Not sure...the UN MIXED version has slight differences like in ILNY there are sirens in the beginning. I don't really know the different experiences with hearing it unmixed vs mixed.

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Reply #22 posted 12/20/05 4:49pm

VoicesCarry

The non-continuous (iTunes) version is way better than the version on CD.
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Reply #23 posted 12/20/05 5:05pm

thedoorkeeper

VoicesCarry said:

The non-continuous (iTunes) version is way better than the version on CD.


Are they different mixes?
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Reply #24 posted 12/20/05 5:07pm

VoicesCarry

thedoorkeeper said:

VoicesCarry said:

The non-continuous (iTunes) version is way better than the version on CD.


Are they different mixes?


Not huge differences.

But for example Get Together is 15 seconds shorter and cuts the outro and the annoying ass alarm bell intro.

And Push is much better with a direct intro.
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Reply #25 posted 12/20/05 5:17pm

thedoorkeeper

VoicesCarry said:

thedoorkeeper said:



Are they different mixes?


Not huge differences.

But for example Get Together is 15 seconds shorter and cuts the outro and the annoying ass alarm bell intro.

And Push is much better with a direct intro.



I see - in a sense its a little tighter
since the tracks don't have to stand alone.

Thanks - thats the answer I was looking for.
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Reply #26 posted 12/20/05 8:20pm

VinnyM27

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ABeautifulOne said:

VinnyM27 said:



NOt sure that there was a sales push after "Toxic", was there?



Yeah it was because nobody really wanted In The Zone when it first came out


I just remember it debuting high and sinking like "Britney" did..
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Reply #27 posted 12/20/05 8:24pm

VinnyM27

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superspaceboy said:

MendesCity said:

Still think Sorry will TANK on the U.S. charts, the hook is too subtle.

Jump or Push would do better here, though I'm pretty sure "Hung Up" was her best single shot on the U.S. charts.


Not one person has even mentioned it as thier favorite off the album. I have a small feeling the other songs will fare even better. Hung up is not the best song on it by far. I've heard others say...

Sorry
Jump
Get Together
and Forbidden love as thier favorites


"Hung Up" is my third favorite song on the album (behind "Sorry" and "Jump") but I think it was the best choice for the lead single. "Sorry" is too intense.
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Reply #28 posted 12/20/05 8:27pm

VinnyM27

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superspaceboy said:

thedoorkeeper said:

Rather than start a new thread I'll just ask a question here:
I bought Confessions when it came out at Wal-Mart. I see people posting about the continous mix of Confessions as if it is different. Is it? Is it just one big cut? If I play my version it plays thru like one big song with no breaks. So what is the advantage to the continous mix?



From what I can tell...

CD bought in store of the regular Confessions...All tracked and all "mixed"
CD bought in store of the Limited ed of Confessions...all tracked and unmixed. Includes the bonus track Fighting Spirit

2 versions from iTunes...
One long ass track of Confessions...Mixed and untracked
One Tracked and Unmixed and you get a bonus track Superpop...I think this version exists for 2 reasons...iTunes doesn't handle mixed tracked versions of anything. And if you just wanted a song, you could get it without any leftovers of the song prior or next.

Someone correct me if I am incorrect.


As far as I know. the only way to get "Superpop" is by joining the fan club for a year (no, you can't get it with free one month club membership).
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Reply #29 posted 12/20/05 10:07pm

Tom

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VoicesCarry said:

thedoorkeeper said:



Are they different mixes?


Not huge differences.

But for example Get Together is 15 seconds shorter and cuts the outro and the annoying ass alarm bell intro.

And Push is much better with a direct intro.


...that sounds alot like Pink Floyd's Time
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