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Trickology

FOLEY fans the 12/31 Message " BIG TRUTH"

Today FOLEY put up his message for everybody to read who wants to know what he believes BIG TRUTH is. I find it to be profound and articulate on the present day world in which we are throttled into.

Parental Advisory and not Worksafe in one picture)
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Reply #1 posted 12/20/05 8:00am

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Kool! Thanks for the headzup, Trick!



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" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #2 posted 12/20/05 8:25am

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paligap said:

Kool! Thanks for the headzup, Trick!



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Have you got Hellborg's new album? Kali Son? Have you ventured into Hellborg library? His new album has a sitarist (Actually a 5 string sitar called a Zitar) who uses stomp boxes and plays it like a freakin electric guitar! It's the first effort without his musical collaborator Shawn Lane who passed away sometime ago. It sounds insane..
I am going to order it this month. It's also recorded in 3 different places simultaneously using modern technology. I thought you would be intrigued by this album

http://www.bardorecords.com/Bf044.htm
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Reply #3 posted 12/20/05 8:32am

psykosoul

Fill me in... how many albums (bootleg/official) has Foley released since "7 Years Ago..."?

I know yall were passing some stuff around on Okayplayer that I missed out on... and what happened to those cover versions of the Beatles and Staples Singers stuff? :
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Reply #4 posted 12/20/05 9:05am

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psykosoul said:

Fill me in... how many albums (bootleg/official) has Foley released since "7 Years Ago..."?

I know yall were passing some stuff around on Okayplayer that I missed out on... and what happened to those cover versions of the Beatles and Staples Singers stuff? :
[Edited 12/20/05 8:32am]


hey, yeah, I missed out on that stuff, too!
" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #5 posted 12/20/05 9:07am

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Trickology said:



Have you got Hellborg's new album? Kali Son? Have you ventured into Hellborg library? His new album has a sitarist (Actually a 5 string sitar called a Zitar) who uses stomp boxes and plays it like a freakin electric guitar! It's the first effort without his musical collaborator Shawn Lane who passed away sometime ago. It sounds insane..
I am going to order it this month. It's also recorded in 3 different places simultaneously using modern technology. I thought you would be intrigued by this album


I have Jonas's first few records, but I haven't listened in lately...I'll have to check that out!


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Reply #6 posted 12/20/05 9:18am

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Well, that's the thing, psykosoul. There isn't a big discography. Although the stuff with Miles Live in Motreaux shows from the box set helped a little bit. Many people have tried to get him in ventures whether it was being a bandmate (Ahem...Prince) or a record deal. But the thing that makes FOLEY so gangsta is he continues to decline and refuse to record for alot of places. He exists without any new music and people still call him for work.

How many people do you know who have played in Arrested Development/George Clinton and P-Funk Allstars/ AND Miles?

I know 1....

But here's the thing kids should keep in mind. He never stopped recording. He walked away from his record deal. I don't think he liked the fact that he would owe people projects. Although that's just a theory.


The covers of the Beatles and Staples singers. I got the Beatles cover on this sampler and I also got a Slamming cover of "Children of Production" and Jackson 5 "ABC".

Alot of the stuff we do get is circulated by FOLEY. It's usually live reworks of 7 years ago material or renditions of past classic songs from Rock/Pop/R&B/Soul/Jazz . He has mailed out 2 volumes of this. The second sampler being a composite of the first one as well with unheard live material. He has circulated two distinct different demo tracks. "EZ Thangs" and "If it's Love"
But there's so much we haven't heard and i guess this is because he has a epidemic with musicians biting his shit when he does reveal something.

So the only thing I can say is for the most part you are good on the discography. When you download the sampler I think you will be caught up for the most part.

Oh you gotta hear this alternate mix of R U Gonna b with Live horns and Foley vamping on elec. bass. It sounds completely different. I also got from the Smart Alec Labz a slamming fuzzed wah wah guitar studio rendition of Wonder's "Luv Having you around" which is just in a word "ill"


Yo whoever has EZ thangs upload that to me. Im having trouble finding the
first cdr in my collection. It's somewhere. I will dig it up if someone doesnt have it.

The thing that's cool is you never know what FOLEY will cover. Could be Led Zeppelin could be Miles.....

Serious ear and serious talent...
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Reply #7 posted 12/20/05 9:23am

psykosoul

Trickology said:

The thing that's cool is you never know what FOLEY will cover. Could be Led Zeppelin could be Miles.....


You got that right there!! Because those covers I heard last year blew me the fuck away... Seriously. Thanks for the heads up on the sampler.
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Reply #8 posted 12/20/05 9:48am

Trickology

psykosoul said:

Trickology said:

The thing that's cool is you never know what FOLEY will cover. Could be Led Zeppelin could be Miles.....


You got that right there!! Because those covers I heard last year blew me the fuck away... Seriously. Thanks for the heads up on the sampler.


no problemo i don't usually post here alot but there was only a few forums in which i posted on this.
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Reply #9 posted 12/21/05 9:09am

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Trickology said:[quote]

psykosoul said:



You got that right there!! Because those covers I heard last year blew me the fuck away... Seriously. Thanks for the heads up on the sampler.




Yeah,good lookin out. I like what he said about Richard Pryor.
Foley seems to be doing things at HIS pace , in HIS time ,that takes alot of balls
"Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence
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Reply #10 posted 12/21/05 9:26am

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Trickology said:

Although the stuff with Miles Live in Motreaux shows from the box set helped a little bit.

Recently acquired the section of those Montreux performances that Foley was a part of from a collector.

Great set.

The Chaka Khan appearance was a bit disappointing but other than that, it kills.


tA

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Reply #11 posted 12/21/05 9:37am

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theAudience said:

Trickology said:

Although the stuff with Miles Live in Motreaux shows from the box set helped a little bit.

Recently acquired the section of those Montreux performances that Foley was a part of from a collector.

Great set.

The Chaka Khan appearance was a bit disappointing but other than that, it kills.



Yeah, man I saw that vid.. she was a mess & looked cracked-out
or something? Miles definitely went easy on her.
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"Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence
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Reply #12 posted 12/21/05 1:42pm

Trickology

theAudience said:

Trickology said:

Although the stuff with Miles Live in Motreaux shows from the box set helped a little bit.

Recently acquired the section of those Montreux performances that Foley was a part of from a collector.

Great set.

The Chaka Khan appearance was a bit disappointing but other than that, it kills.


tA



FOLEY really surprised the hell out of me when he did that rendition of Toto's "Don't Stop now" I had no idea they did that cover in concert and the way he improvised it with Miles was just some special shit. And then you listen to another version and he isnt even playing lead on it. IT was like a one time event. I think he shocked the hell out of guitar cats when he was killin em on 4 strings and NO ONE could read a detailed bio on his background and it killed them that he was the only one who didn't have any jazz training and here he was right next to Miles decked out in whatever clothes he felt like. I think it shocked cats when he did shit like "All Blues" And "Heavy Metal intro" His rhythm shit on Human Nature/Carnival Time/Time after Time/Prince's Movie Star
That dude had to follow Mclaughlin/Cosey/Scofield/Robben Ford


He has such a unreal ear. I knew on the studio version of "The Senate" on 7 years ago but what sets him apart from alot fusion cats is his feel/rhythm ability and his emotional response to music. Wait til you hear this version of Wonder's Luv Having You around the shit is RAW...

Have you tried out Pandora? That's my favorite new music selection device as of recent? Really impressive site

http://www.pandora.com


P.S. I wonder who always lurks on these types of threads.
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Reply #13 posted 12/31/05 4:06pm

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Reply #14 posted 12/31/05 4:06pm

Trickology

Oh shit

read this

http://www.smartalecmusic...GTRUTH.htm


FOLEY dropping science before 06

johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo
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Reply #15 posted 12/31/05 4:37pm

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Trickology said:

Oh shit

read this

http://www.smartalecmusic...GTRUTH.htm


FOLEY dropping science before 06

johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo



A lot of on point facts that folks have been ignoring and still won't get.
Todd Rundgren was also hip to the power of the internet long ago.

If you can't do it live, chances are you won't survive.
If you can't sell a ticket, don't even f*ck with it
.



tA

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Reply #16 posted 12/31/05 4:55pm

Trickology

theAudience said:

Trickology said:

Oh shit

read this

http://www.smartalecmusic...GTRUTH.htm


FOLEY dropping science before 06

johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo



A lot of on point facts that folks have been ignoring and still won't get.
Todd Rundgren was also hip to the power of the internet long ago.

If you can't do it live, chances are you won't survive.
If you can't sell a ticket, don't even f*ck with it
.



tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431



Maybe ..if they price Musical ART in the next 50 years like they do in Art Painting Galleries will have a new revolution in Income for artists.

Sound Galleries....
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Reply #17 posted 12/31/05 5:00pm

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Trickology said:

Maybe ..if they price Musical ART in the next 50 years like they do in Art Painting Galleries will have a new revolution in Income for artists.

Sound Galleries....

That's only if the public can't somehow get it for free, like they do now. wink


tA

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Reply #18 posted 12/31/05 5:15pm

Trickology

theAudience said:

Trickology said:

Maybe ..if they price Musical ART in the next 50 years like they do in Art Painting Galleries will have a new revolution in Income for artists.

Sound Galleries....

That's only if the public can't somehow get it for free, like they do now. wink


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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I think it all has to do with marketing. On CBS 60 minutes, a guy sold a pile of candy in the corner for thousands of dollars. And all it was was a pile of candy dumped in a corner.

I think Music is going to move to that realm of absurd pricing as well. Especially the esoteric/eccentric ones like Prince and Bjork. The Norman Rockwell's are going to get priced with a wholesale price. It's all in the packaging. I wonder what the new frame will be made of.
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Reply #19 posted 12/31/05 5:34pm

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Trickology said:


I think it all has to do with marketing. On CBS 60 minutes, a guy sold a pile of candy in the corner for thousands of dollars. And all it was was a pile of candy dumped in a corner.

I think Music is going to move to that realm of absurd pricing as well. Especially the esoteric/eccentric ones like Prince and Bjork. The Norman Rockwell's are going to get priced with a wholesale price. It's all in the packaging. I wonder what the new frame will be made of.

Speaking of Art and 60 Minutes.
They did a feature a year or so ago on this guy that was the best selling artist in America. Can't remember his name.
All he did was really pedestrian work. The kind of stuff you could do if you had a paint by numbers kit.

See any musical parallels? lol


tA

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Reply #20 posted 12/31/05 6:02pm

Trickology

theAudience said:

Trickology said:


I think it all has to do with marketing. On CBS 60 minutes, a guy sold a pile of candy in the corner for thousands of dollars. And all it was was a pile of candy dumped in a corner.

I think Music is going to move to that realm of absurd pricing as well. Especially the esoteric/eccentric ones like Prince and Bjork. The Norman Rockwell's are going to get priced with a wholesale price. It's all in the packaging. I wonder what the new frame will be made of.

Speaking of Art and 60 Minutes.
They did a feature a year or so ago on this guy that was the best selling artist in America. Can't remember his name.
All he did was really pedestrian work. The kind of stuff you could do if you had a paint by numbers kit.

See any musical parallels? lol




tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431


I remember that special I forgot his name.
Hold on. I think you just came with a great post/thread title by accident. "The great musical pedestrians"

I think Phil Collins would be one even though he says he isn't a musician. Even though he's a great drummer as evident with Genesis and Brand X even. Get to work on the post ::Does Sussudio dance::


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Reply #21 posted 12/31/05 6:15pm

Ikaros

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P.S. I wonder who always lurks on these types of threads.


lol

Me does.

See Foley's name pop up every now and then, wonder what he is up to, as I only saw him with Miles.

Big truth indeed.
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Reply #22 posted 12/31/05 6:38pm

jubilee

Thomas Kinkade is the artist you mentioned covered by 60 minutes. I believe now he has a candle line with "Glade" ... oh boy

http://www.cbsnews.com/st...8790.shtml
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Reply #23 posted 12/31/05 7:36pm

Trickology

Ikaros said:

Trickology said:



P.S. I wonder who always lurks on these types of threads.


lol

Me does.

See Foley's name pop up every now and then, wonder what he is up to, as I only saw him with Miles.

Big truth indeed.


Wow you saw FOLEY with Miles? You were blessed.
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Reply #24 posted 12/31/05 10:08pm

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Trickology said:



Wow you saw FOLEY with Miles? You were blessed.

I did also. Went on a hunch. nod

Tell ya 'bout it later. cool


tA

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Reply #25 posted 01/01/06 2:09pm

Ikaros

Trickology said:

Ikaros said:



lol

Me does.

See Foley's name pop up every now and then, wonder what he is up to, as I only saw him with Miles.

Big truth indeed.


Wow you saw FOLEY with Miles? You were blessed.


On DVD that is... boxed I am not that old... razz
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Reply #26 posted 01/01/06 2:27pm

Trickology

Ikaros said:

Trickology said:



Wow you saw FOLEY with Miles? You were blessed.


On DVD that is... boxed I am not that old... razz


Yea, I saw him on DVD too. lol lol
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Reply #27 posted 01/02/06 6:34am

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Trickology said:

Oh shit

read this

http://www.smartalecmusic...GTRUTH.htm


FOLEY dropping science before 06

johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo johnwoo
[Edited 12/31/05 16:34pm]



DAYUM !!
GAME,SET,MATCH
"Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence
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Reply #28 posted 01/02/06 10:44am

Trickology

Are we allowed to put download links here?

If not check ya inbox.

lol lol lol
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Reply #29 posted 01/03/06 8:23am

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Trickology said:

Are we allowed to put download links here?

If not check ya inbox.

lol lol lol



Thanks, that's a cool version
but, when is HIS stuff coming out ?!?
"Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence
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