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Reply #120 posted 12/21/05 4:38pm

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Thank you for setting the story straight @
http://www.dallasobserver...tters.html


pc zipped
i love you for who you are, not the one u feel u need to be.
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Reply #121 posted 12/21/05 5:14pm

psykosoul

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Some people believe everything they hear even if common sense suggests otherwise


Thank you so much... I've tried to stay out of this thread and it seems to me that anyone who would call themselves badujunkie would know better... but sigh

This thread has truly shown some of you folks' true colors... not Badu's
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Reply #122 posted 12/21/05 6:57pm

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Erykah has been indirectly saying "fuck white people" since day one. American society has become a bunch of overly sensitive, whiny bitches. The smallest thing sets people off into a frenzy these days. Before some of you "of the fuck you persuasion" have the audacity to use the word "racist", understand that EVERY BLACK PERSON IN AMERICA FEELS LIKE SAYING THAT AT SOME POINT. Even that "black friend" that you think "oh no, not her/him" YES, them, too. Don't even bother asking. They won't share that with you if you're not a person of color. America has countless exampes of the CONSISTANT wronging of people of color and guess what? WE DON'T LIKE IT. Sometimes we don't like you all, either. Does it mean we want to kill all white people? No. We don't. Sometimes we just get pissed just like when y'all see 50 Cent on t.v. Sometimes you "hate n*gg**s". (Bad example - we hate his ass, too) Was Erykah blaming all white people? No. Of course not. People refuse to read between the lines these days. Everything needs to be spelled out and layed out with every little if and or but highlighted. If you can't think individually enough to get it, you never will. We have come to a point in society that people seem to be so STUPID that they need everything spelled out to them or clarified. Political correctness is rampantly overrated these days. Erykah was probably trying to make a point to put a little fear into those who think that we are unaware or incapable of rising up. Erykah is and always was PRO BLACK. GO back and actually READ the lyrics to "On and On". Pro black does not mean "hate white". I don't believe for one minute that she does. She's a sista in the struggle trying to express herself. Its not always hold hands and sing kum-by-ya with her. Anyone who doesn't know that by now is either fooling themselves or simply doesn't know her music.

ON POINT, & I say this as someone who can't STAND that wanna-be-dizty Erykah Yahoo..
I'm inclinded to think that Paul Mooney would agree with this too.
I'll see you tonight..
in ALL MY DREAMS..
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Reply #123 posted 12/21/05 7:22pm

Janfriend

meow85 said:

Janfriend said:



When you become a black person, let me know

rolleyes



When black people become the only hated minority, let me know. You've got no more claim to pain or anger than the rest of us.


I never said I did
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Reply #124 posted 12/21/05 7:35pm

Janfriend

Shapeshifter said:

Janfriend said:



I didn't say all artists. I said most, if not all soul artists. Listen to the lyrics. Why are you attracted to it? soul and r&b music is music that originated in black American gospel singing, is closely related to rhythm and blues, and is characterized by intensity of feeling and earthiness and popular music typically including elements of blues and black folk music and marked by a strong beat and simple chord structure

It was originally created by blacks for blacks about the black experience. That's really a no brainer
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What you actually mean is that it was created for black American folks about the black American experience. Black folks in Europe love soul music same as you, but our parents and grandparents - while not immune to prejudice and racism themselves - did not go through the same horrific levels of oppression black Americans did. And you're forgetting early Motown, which Berry Gordy - initially at least - deliberately packaged to crossover to a white audience, which it did.

There's also another point you're completely missing - no one can control who listens to their music or how they react to it, no matter who they initially make it "for". Marvin Gaye did not make "What's Going on" (arguably the greatest soul album ever made) just for black people - he referenced hippies in the title song ("Who are they to judge us because our hair is long"). Stevie Wonder didn't make his music solely for black folks either. Neither did Ray Charles or Al Green or Sly Stone (who had a multi-racial band). But why stop at soul? Bob Marley made his music for a global audience. As did all the jazz greats (and, by the way dear, a few of them were and are white). Ledbelly wrote his most famous song - "Goodnight Irene" - for the daughter of his white prison warden. Chuck Berry, Fats Domino and Little Richard didn't deliberately make their music for black people either.

Sorry, Friend of Janet Jackson, but you're completely and utterly misinformed and I'm afraid, very ignorant about this very music you claim as your "own". Read more, hate less.
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You're stupid. I never said anything about controlling who listens to what music. Every artist has a target audience whether it be by age, culture, or race. That's a fact. You can listen to whatever music you want. I like Gretchen Wilson. Her song "Redneck Woman" is for surely made for white women. Is it ok for non-whites to listen to it and like it? Yes, more money for her. If you think most soul artists don't write their music with their people in mind, you're the one that's ignorant

1. Berry Gordy wanted to make money, period
2. Marvin Gaye, I'm sure, didn't have a problem with all races liking his music, but on that same not I don't think he would have cared if only his people liked it...you think black people don't have long hair or something? You really don't know who he was talking about
3 All those other artists you mentioned wereoriginally only being heard by a black audience and wrote their music to refelct the black American experience. They were only played on black radio. It wasn't until white people got interested that they crossed over. They weren't interested from day one. Please know the history before talking shit.
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Reply #125 posted 12/21/05 7:38pm

Janfriend

badujunkie said:

Janfriend said:



I didn't say all artists. I said most, if not all soul artists. Listen to the lyrics. Why are you attracted to it? soul and r&b music is music that originated in black American gospel singing, is closely related to rhythm and blues, and is characterized by intensity of feeling and earthiness and popular music typically including elements of blues and black folk music and marked by a strong beat and simple chord structure

It was originally created by blacks for blacks about the black experience. That's really a no brainer
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im not backing down to you racist piece.
eat shit.


Hold up muthafucka, don't come on here being disrespectful to me simply because you can't have an adult conversation about race. What I posted above came from the dictionary. Don't get mad because you don't have an intelligent comeback. You sure like to throw around the word racist alot especially since I haven't said anythig racist. Does it make you feel good?
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Reply #126 posted 12/21/05 7:59pm

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laurarichardson said:


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You supported Alan Keys. I don't need to say anything else. Now go finish your ham sandwich.

exactly. you've got nothing.

and it's keyes.

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I would not care if you spelled his name with 3 KKK's he is still an ass and you could not stop blowing his horn on this board.
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Reply #127 posted 12/21/05 11:05pm

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Janfriend said:

badujunkie said:



im not backing down to you racist piece.
eat shit.


Hold up muthafucka, don't come on here being disrespectful to me simply because you can't have an adult conversation about race. What I posted above came from the dictionary. Don't get mad because you don't have an intelligent comeback. You sure like to throw around the word racist alot especially since I haven't said anythig racist. Does it make you feel good?
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anyone who thinks that artists make art ONLY for people JUST LIKE THEMSELVES and tries to defend that way of thinking is to me encouraging the division of people by color/class/race/gender/sexual preference/religion. it's a way to DIVIDE PEOPLE by superficial categories and is therefore RACIST since the issue here is race. you're dividing people into groups saying "artists make music for this group and NOT this group and vice versa." that's RACIST!
and i dont care if you think im not an adult i don't think adults are that much cooler than kids anyway.
and i havent called anyone racist but yourself.
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #128 posted 12/21/05 11:18pm

Janfriend

badujunkie said:

Janfriend said:



Hold up muthafucka, don't come on here being disrespectful to me simply because you can't have an adult conversation about race. What I posted above came from the dictionary. Don't get mad because you don't have an intelligent comeback. You sure like to throw around the word racist alot especially since I haven't said anythig racist. Does it make you feel good?
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anyone who thinks that artists make art ONLY for people JUST LIKE THEMSELVES and tries to defend that way of thinking is to me encouraging the division of people by color/class/race/gender/sexual preference/religion. it's a way to DIVIDE PEOPLE by superficial categories and is therefore RACIST since the issue here is race. you're dividing people into groups saying "artists make music for this group and NOT this group and vice versa." that's RACIST!
and i dont care if you think im not an adult i don't think adults are that much cooler than kids anyway.
and i havent called anyone racist but yourself.


Read your dictionary, that's not what a racist is and furthermore I didn't say ONLY for peoaple like themselves. I said geared and targeted to. Answer this question: Is Salsa y Merengue, Flamenco, Boleros, Rock en Espanol geared towards a hispanic audience? Yes or No?
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Reply #129 posted 12/22/05 1:14am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Sly said:

I see it more as a 'fuck u' to the white establishment.


This is what I think too nod
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Reply #130 posted 12/22/05 1:16am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Sdldawn said:

badujunkie said:

Wigged Out
Mean sister: I don't know why Erykah Badu receives all the positive publicity from the Dallas Observer ("Waiting for Erykah," by Robert Wilonsky, March 24). Perhaps you missed the show at the Forest Theatre when Ms. Badu and her sister, Nayrok, sang anti-war songs, calling out President Bush directly in their lyrics. Nayrok opened the show, lasting way too long, and was booed off the stage by the predominantly black crowd. Her '80s metal rock is amateurish and completely clashes with Badu's alleged theme of peace, love and enlightenment. Badu finally took the stage and preached for at least 10 minutes in between one of her songs, rambling and riding her weed high. A black woman in the audience, near the front of the stage, shouted: "Get on with the music!" And Badu immediately lashed back: "If you don't like it, sister, you can get the fuck on!!"

Somewhere in her anti-war rant, she actually said, "Fuck war! Fuck Bush!" and at the end of the crescendo: "Fuck white people! Lock the doors. We're going to have a revolution!" Wow. As one of the minorities there, I looked at my two other Caucasian friends, slunk against the wall, eyed the nearest exit and prepared for a lynching. The audience started filing out down the aisles while she tried to resurrect the positive energy of her set, but I'd guess that about 25 percent of the audience left the theater.

Anyway, do some more follow-ups to this story if you don't believe it. Badu is not all about the love. She's a panther in disguise. Check under her fake 'fro wig.

Dustin Nulf

Via e-mail

Editor's note: This is one man's version of what happened at this show. Were you there? If so, we'd like to hear from you. Write us at letters@dallasobserver.com.

anyone heard about this?


do any white people listen to her anyway? lol


... lol
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This half honkey does wave
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Reply #131 posted 12/22/05 1:17am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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SassierBritches said:

laurarichardson said:


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Then don't comment. Nothing BlaqueKnight said was wrong.

you bothered your fingers to type that? why don't you go busy yourself with a ham sandwich and shut the f**k up for a second.


spit

Make sure to put mustard on it biggrin
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Reply #132 posted 12/22/05 1:20am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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SassierBritches said:

laurarichardson said:


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You have not taken the time to read some of SassierBritches post have you.

why don't you go and show us some of sassierbritches' comments so we can see what you're talking about. and start with this one...

you've got a big mouth and a little brain; the two together never make a good match.


Maybe you shouldn't challenge her. Remember the last time you challenged me to come up with some Sassy quotes? whistling

lol

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Reply #133 posted 12/22/05 1:22am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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CalhounSq said:

You muthafuckas kill me hammer

This is like people trippin' off the lyrics in the Rainbow Children, saying "Prince hates White people!!" omfg

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I wasn't there. I didn't hear the shit. I'd like to know what was said in context. I will be buying E's next album horns


Me too Sista! headbang Is it OK for me to call you sister even though you're black and I'm not boxed

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Reply #134 posted 12/23/05 2:06pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

CalhounSq said:

You muthafuckas kill me hammer

This is like people trippin' off the lyrics in the Rainbow Children, saying "Prince hates White people!!" omfg

neutral

I wasn't there. I didn't hear the shit. I'd like to know what was said in context. I will be buying E's next album horns


Me too Sista! headbang Is it OK for me to call you sister even though you're black and I'm not boxed

biggrin


falloff Quit trippin' my sistah! cool
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #135 posted 12/27/05 6:23pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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CalhounSq said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Me too Sista! headbang Is it OK for me to call you sister even though you're black and I'm not boxed

biggrin


falloff Quit trippin' my sistah! cool

razz rock on! headbang
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Reply #136 posted 12/28/05 4:21pm

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Folks, this incident DID NOT HAPPEN!!!! Chalk this one up to yet another BS story that the media ran with and (because it was so prominently reported) made everyone believe was true.

This falls into a category with:

Tommy Hilfiger's racist comments on Oprah

Ray A Croc (founder of MacDonalds) claiming on Donahue that he's a Satanist

Rod Stewart having 20 gallons of semen pumped from his stomach

Marilyn Manson being the kid from The Wonder Years

Marilyn Manson having a rib removed so he can suck his own dick

Billy Corgan being the kid from Small Wonder

Richard Gere having gerbils removed from his rectum

Mamma Cass choking on a ham sandwich being the cause of her death


None of these things were even remotely true, yet they were reported as such. Erykah never made these racist comments, yet people are still debating what she supposedly meant. Well, she didn't mean a damn thing, since she didn't ever say "fuck white people".
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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