dreamfactory313 said: JesseDezz said: Not all exposure is good exposure. I just feel that the Jon Bs and Robin Thickes of the world are talented enough without having to partner up with the popular producers of the moment. What ever happened to having a distinct sound... The Neptunes are not only "popular producers of the moment". They've been at this for almost 15 years! Where have you been? And this song is far from wack! Where have I been? I've been busy switching stations whenever that wack-ass Robin Thicke song comes on the radio My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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If you can take a moment and loosen your grip on Pharrell's nutsack, you'll realize that the "popular producers of the moment" statement was a broad one - I wasn't just talking about your precious Neptunes. It's standard music industry practice that's been going on for awhile. At its best, it can draw attention to an artist. At its worst, it can dilute any originality that artist may have bought to the table. In a way, it's like selling one's artistic soul. Of course, there are always exceptions. It doesn't sound like one in this case. Robin Thicke can do a whole lot better than this track, imho. My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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JesseDezz said: dreamfactory313 said: The Neptunes are not only "popular producers of the moment". They've been at this for almost 15 years! Where have you been? And this song is far from wack! Where have I been? I've been busy switching stations whenever that wack-ass Robin Thicke song comes on the radio That's so cool, I didn't realise he was getting played on the radio! I'm still waiting for that remix of "Stupid things" feat Mariah to leak! they recorded it in 2003 according to Thicke. So does this mean he is no longer part of a band? | |
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twink69 said: JesseDezz said: Where have I been? I've been busy switching stations whenever that wack-ass Robin Thicke song comes on the radio That's so cool, I didn't realise he was getting played on the radio! I'm still waiting for that remix of "Stupid things" feat Mariah to leak! they recorded it in 2003 according to Thicke. So does this mean he is no longer part of a band? He was never part of a band. Those were his friends who agreed to be his band. He saw it as a communal effort, but he was the only one with the actual record deal | |
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purpleunderground said: Now why in the hell can't Jon B. work with Pharrell and get this kind of exposure?
Jon B produces his own stuff. He doesn't need Pharrell. Thank You San Alejo for getting rid of my enemies. :-0
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lyecry said: Jon B produces his own stuff. He doesn't need Pharrell.
Sure looks like he could use some help. | |
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lyecry said: purpleunderground said: Now why in the hell can't Jon B. work with Pharrell and get this kind of exposure?
Jon B produces his own stuff. He doesn't need Pharrell. So does Robin | |
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Janfriend said: lyecry said: Jon B produces his own stuff. He doesn't need Pharrell. So does Robin It mentioned MJ. What did Thicke and MJ do together? | |
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TheSmyrk said: Janfriend said: "Wanna Love You Girl" Doesn't sound like Robin to me and I'm not sure how I feel about that track. I hope the rest of the album showcases his vocal talents more. A Beautiful World is a classic album for so many reasons
He has snippets of three other tracks on the Robinthicke.com site. They sound kinda Marvin Gaye-ish to me, though. I heard those too. Doesn't do his voice justice | |
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jasonstar said: Janfriend said: So does Robin It mentioned MJ. What did Thicke and MJ do together? I'll find out | |
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I tried to watch it again, since there are so many of you who seem to like this guy. He may have written some hit songs, but his voice is sooooo generic on this track and the song itself is AWFUL.
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he's cute. i hate his voice tho, its very plain and boring. the song its self is cool, REALLY like the beat. needs a better singer tho imo and that spoken part is whack Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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I love Robin's voice. I love the song. I love the drop dead gorgeous Brazilian ladies in the video! Theres nothing here to hate for me. | |
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JesseDezz said: If you can take a moment and loosen your grip on Pharrell's nutsack, you'll realize that the "popular producers of the moment" statement was a broad one - I wasn't just talking about your precious Neptunes. It's standard music industry practice that's been going on for awhile. At its best, it can draw attention to an artist. At its worst, it can dilute any originality that artist may have bought to the table. In a way, it's like selling one's artistic soul. Of course, there are always exceptions. It doesn't sound like one in this case. Robin Thicke can do a whole lot better than this track, imho.
I agree one thousand percent. From what I've heard of Robin he has potential if he can find his distinct voice and avoid being diluted. I also dislike the "flavor of the month" producer trend. Btw, he looks like George Michael to me too. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Janfriend said: jasonstar said: It mentioned MJ. What did Thicke and MJ do together? I'll find out He wrote a song call "Fall Again" for Invicible, but of course it didn't make it on the album. The demo is on The MJ Ultimate Collection. Robin has also written songs for Brandy, Whitney and Usher and many others. He wrote songs on Confessions. | |
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If you want to hear his real potential, let me know | |
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I wish I didn't know his dad was the dad on Growing Pains. I just can't get past that. | |
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Cinnie said: I wish I didn't know his dad was the dad on Growing Pains. I just can't get past that.
Once you hear his music, you will. He introduced me to his dad. Both of them are real cool people | |
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The single is garbage. A variation of the Housequake drumtrack with old Yahmaha drum machine-sounding drumsounds over the most minimalist synth lines possible with Robin sounding like he just drank a 5th of Vodka before he stepped to the mike. There's enough crappy pseudo R&B done by black males without "funky white boy" types riding in on the white pass doing the same thing. (Yes I said it.) Thiis cat has yet to show potential in my opinion. He can sing when he wants to but he's as far from Jon B. as Pharrell is from Quincy Jones. Jon is legit and has substance and a mass of talent. Thicke is another pretty boy rich kid trying to ride the "funky white boy" wave ala Timberlake and Fedderline. At least when he was singing over Beethoven he showed some vocal ability. Any drunk frat boy could sing this new single. Unimpressive. Sorry.
And Pharrell seems like he does more partying than work these days. His number of sh*t singles is increasing consistantly. Him & Gwen and now this? [Edited 1/3/06 12:51pm] | |
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TheSmyrk said: lyecry said: Jon B produces his own stuff. He doesn't need Pharrell.
Sure looks like he could use some help. umm...didnt jon b need to be produced by la and babyface? Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: TheSmyrk said: Sure looks like he could use some help. umm...didnt jon b need to be produced by la and babyface? Jon B. needed to be VALIDATED by L.A. & Face to sell with the R&B crowd. Jon was an in-house producer at LaFace before he went solo. Like Remy Shand, he worked his way up until he got his op to shine. The respectable thing about Jon is that he has always made R&B music and has never tried to use his race to morph his R&B success into a pop opportunity. He remains R&B because he loves it and not because its "in" or whatever. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: sosgemini said: umm...didnt jon b need to be produced by la and babyface? Jon B. needed to be VALIDATED by L.A. & Face to sell with the R&B crowd. Jon was an in-house producer at LaFace before he went solo. Like Remy Shand, he worked his way up until he got his op to shine. The respectable thing about Jon is that he has always made R&B music and has never tried to use his race to morph his R&B success into a pop opportunity. He remains R&B because he loves it and not because its "in" or whatever. so to you, whats the diff between what jon b did and thicke is doing? Space for sale... | |
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BlaqueKnight said: sosgemini said: umm...didnt jon b need to be produced by la and babyface? Jon B. needed to be VALIDATED by L.A. & Face to sell with the R&B crowd. Jon was an in-house producer at LaFace before he went solo. Like Remy Shand, he worked his way up until he got his op to shine. The respectable thing about Jon is that he has always made R&B music and has never tried to use his race to morph his R&B success into a pop opportunity. He remains R&B because he loves it and not because its "in" or whatever. and you think Robin is??? | |
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sosgemini said: BlaqueKnight said: Jon B. needed to be VALIDATED by L.A. & Face to sell with the R&B crowd. Jon was an in-house producer at LaFace before he went solo. Like Remy Shand, he worked his way up until he got his op to shine. The respectable thing about Jon is that he has always made R&B music and has never tried to use his race to morph his R&B success into a pop opportunity. He remains R&B because he loves it and not because its "in" or whatever. so to you, whats the diff between what jon b did and thicke is doing? Thicke's label is marketing him towards the pop audience. He's just trying to use R&B as a jump off. His first single was certainly not geared towards the real R&B audience. That was pop R&B, if you even want to call it that. This new song is just garbage and no real R&B head would buy this sh*t. An indication that he's not seeking long-term R&B fans. Dude's a poser. He may be the nicest guy in the world; I'm not knocking Thicke the person. Thicke the artist is just coming off as a poser to me, though. It wouldn't even be so bad if he were a poser with good material but this single is junk. It sounds like no work went into it at all and they tried to fix everything in post. (post-production for those that don't know) Don't throw a rock at me and call it a gold brick. | |
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judging by his first album and the many musical influcences that went into this, I never even considered labeling Thicke as an plain & straightforward R&B artist
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BlaqueKnight said: sosgemini said: so to you, whats the diff between what jon b did and thicke is doing? Thicke's label is marketing him towards the pop audience. He's just trying to use R&B as a jump off. His first single was certainly not geared towards the real R&B audience. That was pop R&B, if you even want to call it that. This new song is just garbage and no real R&B head would buy this sh*t. An indication that he's not seeking long-term R&B fans. Dude's a poser. He may be the nicest guy in the world; I'm not knocking Thicke the person. Thicke the artist is just coming off as a poser to me, though. It wouldn't even be so bad if he were a poser with good material but this single is junk. It sounds like no work went into it at all and they tried to fix everything in post. (post-production for those that don't know) Don't throw a rock at me and call it a gold brick. thanks for your input. however: Space for sale... | |
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Dancelot said: judging by his first album and the many musical influcences that went into this, I never even considered labeling Thicke as an plain & straightforward R&B artist
. this is how i see things. Space for sale... | |
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BlaqueKnight said: sosgemini said: so to you, whats the diff between what jon b did and thicke is doing? Thicke's label is marketing him towards the pop audience. He's just trying to use R&B as a jump off. His first single was certainly not geared towards the real R&B audience. That was pop R&B, if you even want to call it that. This new song is just garbage and no real R&B head would buy this sh*t. An indication that he's not seeking long-term R&B fans. Dude's a poser. He may be the nicest guy in the world; I'm not knocking Thicke the person. Thicke the artist is just coming off as a poser to me, though. It wouldn't even be so bad if he were a poser with good material but this single is junk. It sounds like no work went into it at all and they tried to fix everything in post. (post-production for those that don't know) Don't throw a rock at me and call it a gold brick. Maybe you should listen to hs album or even the other music he has composed for other artists | |
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