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Thread started 12/10/05 12:16pm

Trickology

Duncan Sheik new lp January 06 w/ a unique concept

I've been recently getting into this guy. I see why alot cats love his records and why people went Ga Ga for his debut, "Phantom Moon," "Humming", and even enjoyed "Daylight" I will be back with select comments what I like about his work. Obviously Lyricism and Melodies but I have more I'd like to comment on Duncan. So here's the news of the new album "White Limosine" and what Duncan has done for a challenge for the fans. It's really interesting that he is going in this direction of deconstruction/reconstruction/translations. I think alot D.s. fans and even ones who aren't will be interested in this record

Read this it should interest alot of remixers:



Well, I guess I should just go ahead and let you know about what we’re planning for the DVD that will accompany the White Limousine CD. Here is my explanation that was sent out to the press …

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A word about the White Limousine companion DVD.

While I was on tour promoting my last album, the very nice people at M-Audio gave me a copy of a piece of software called Reason. Though I had played around with it’s predecessor, Rebirth, Reason is a far more versatile tool (kind of a virtual rack of synths and samplers on your laptop) and I started to think about how it might inform the songwriting process for my next record. Once I had come up with a couple of dozen musical ideas using Reason, I thought I might make a record where the entire arrangement for the songs (except for a vocal and an acoustic guitar) would be generated in Reason. This was going to be my version of the “minimalist, electronica, singer-songwriter record”. My next thought was that I could release the Reason files along with the CD so that anyone could “remix” the songs however they wanted to.

I started to make my record this way but to make a long and winding creative process short, I ended up re-doing the record with my band as “four human musicians playing in a room together with a great engineer”. I think that as much as I love electronic music, I was kind of afraid of committing to a record that’s mainly “programming”. But I still very much liked the idea of releasing the record in such a way that anyone could remix the songs or create new music from the constituent parts of those songs. Luckily, the folks at M-Audio had also given me a copy of software called Live which, because it deals with pre-recorded audio as well as midi, would be an ideal way to release the record in a format such that it can be remixed and messed with in any imaginable way. When you open up a given song in Live, all the individual parts will be separated out so that they can be muted, soloed or altered. This is not a new idea. Peter Gabriel did a “4-track” version of it for his record “Us”, Brian Eno talks about it in his book/diary “A Year With Swollen Appendices”, I hear Todd Rundgren did something conceptually similar a while back, and, very recently, Nine Inch Nails have released some of their songs in Garage Band format.

So, all that being said, White Limousine will be released with two discs. A normal CD labeled “mine” with the twelve songs, and a DVD labeled “yours” with an installable version of Live software and all twelve songs set up in Live so that they can be remixed.

In this way, maybe someone will actually make the minimalist electronica version of White Limousine that I was afraid to realize - personally, that is what I hope. But, of course, there are countless other types of versions of these songs that one might attempt and I’m genuinely interested in what other people do with this material. Also, I plan to set up a web site where people can post their remixes and listen to what others have done. I’m not really sure how these songs might evolve - and I think it is that uncertainty that I like most about this process.
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Reply #1 posted 12/10/05 3:21pm

pkidwell

he sings like a fag
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Reply #2 posted 12/10/05 5:17pm

HamsterHuey

pkidwell said:

he sings like a fag


You whine like one.
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Reply #3 posted 12/10/05 5:23pm

HamsterHuey

ON topic; I am curious!

For sure going to check this out!
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Reply #4 posted 12/11/05 9:37pm

Trickology

ON topic; I am curious!

For sure going to check this out!



I think Duncan is on to something and I think he might be surprised how many people start remixing his project just as a challenge. I wonder why NIN didn't do their whole album as a remix. It would be interesting to see what translations people create.

I know this: His catalog is impressive for a decade in. Atlantic is lucky to have him. I think it's funny that someone comes in a thread and says someone sings "Gay" when they have a prince avy and on a prince discussion website. Just an observation.
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Reply #5 posted 12/12/05 1:55am

HamsterHuey

Trickology said:


I think Duncan is on to something and I think he might be surprised how many people start remixing his project just as a challenge. I wonder why NIN didn't do their whole album as a remix. It would be interesting to see what translations people create.


Björk did something recently with covers of Army Of Me, a release of which the benefits went to charity.
Prince once did a contest too; giving peeps a beat through the radio and picking some winners. I wonder who won that, in the end.

On the 'gay' subject, I am still surprised people use derogatory slang to express something.
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Reply #6 posted 12/12/05 6:12pm

Trickology

{quote}Björk did something recently with covers of Army Of Me, a release of which the benefits went to charity.
Prince once did a contest too; giving peeps a beat through the radio and picking some winners. I wonder who won that, in the end.

On the 'gay' subject, I am still surprised people use derogatory slang to express something.[/quote]

I think the first person to do this is Todd Rundgren with "New World Order" but that was some expensive shit to buy that version. And it was early in the game and not many people had the technology to contribute.

THIS in my opinion, is like on the scale what Jay Z did with the Black album and his acapellas. Only this time Duncan is giving you all the musical parts filtered instead of just acapellas and you make a remix album from scratch.

I will be interested to see if any electronic name brand producer releases it like Danger Mouse did with "The Grey album"

Prince's "musicology" was a boring mix to begin with. White Limo appears to be a few levels up then what people usually get. Which is "Remix my song" Here Mr Sheik is giving the fans an opportunity to be a star remixer from nothing if they mix it right. Anyways, it's a good way to get kids to buy the album vs download it just off the net.

About the comment of the gay thing, I just take it as slang. It's slang in limbo currently that someone still lives like the word "cool"
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Reply #7 posted 02/01/06 9:04am

Trickology

Here's the Verdict on the record: A Great sounding disc and Duncan's Strings once again is beautiful work
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Reply #8 posted 02/01/06 12:03pm

laurarichardso
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Trickology said:

ON topic; I am curious!

For sure going to check this out!



I think Duncan is on to something and I think he might be surprised how many people start remixing his project just as a challenge. I wonder why NIN didn't do their whole album as a remix. It would be interesting to see what translations people create.

I know this: His catalog is impressive for a decade in. Atlantic is lucky to have him. I think it's funny that someone comes in a thread and says someone sings "Gay" when they have a prince avy and on a prince discussion website. Just an observation.

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I think it's funny that every other artist but, P get props from you for doing something different. P does something different and it is tricks. This is just as strange as someone saying Duncan sings like a fag but is on P org.
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Reply #9 posted 02/01/06 12:21pm

Tom

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Junior Vasquez remixed one of his songs, though I can't remember the name of it. It was on one of his compilation mix CD's
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Reply #10 posted 02/01/06 2:54pm

Trickology

laurarichardson said:

Trickology said:




I think Duncan is on to something and I think he might be surprised how many people start remixing his project just as a challenge. I wonder why NIN didn't do their whole album as a remix. It would be interesting to see what translations people create.

I know this: His catalog is impressive for a decade in. Atlantic is lucky to have him. I think it's funny that someone comes in a thread and says someone sings "Gay" when they have a prince avy and on a prince discussion website. Just an observation.

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I think it's funny that every other artist but, P get props from you for doing something different. P does something different and it is tricks. This is just as strange as someone saying Duncan sings like a fag but is on P org.


DO you stalk regularly or something? You are like a Prince fascist I swear. I think you have Mistaken me for someone else just because I don't mention Prince doesn't mean I didn't mention him in the past. I thought Rainbow Children was a really different project. And the gay comment has to do with stereotypes and observations that is a perception of a artist who is different. Same with David Bowie or Gary Numan or who have you.

The Truth
Symbol Album
Gold Experience
Rainbowchildren
Crystal Ball
Emancipation

And if 3121 is of this caliber I will be the first to say this. I've already said everything there is to say about Prince in the past which I have enjoyed.
Just because I have different opinions regarding something doesn't mean I don't think Prince is a innovator or icon or Legend. I state what I think just like everyone else. Seriously, this Prince fascism needs to stop. It's rather silly.
And it's so predictable this behaviour.
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