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Thread started 12/08/05 10:06am

saintsation

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Keith Sweat vs Prince back in the 80'and early 90's

I say keith was highly very underrated back in the days. I mean this man hardly had a video and all his songs went #1 back then. thats outstanding.

Prince on the othe hand is Prince.

This is a more Keith Sweat appreciation thread. I just wanted attention so you all can show respect to this man by reading this!!!!
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Reply #1 posted 12/08/05 10:14am

angela74

I didnt like Keith Sweat at first. After a while listneing to some of his music grew on me. After his debut c.d I did not care for his Ill give all my love to you and his 3rd c.d .I think his 3rd one came out in 91 or 92. When he released Nobody and Got me Twisted I liked his music. Then after that I was not feelin him.
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Reply #2 posted 12/08/05 12:18pm

namepeace

Keith Sweat's debut joint was the jam. His follow up albums got progressively whiny.
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Reply #3 posted 12/08/05 1:53pm

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namepeace said:

Keith Sweat's debut joint was the jam .



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Reply #4 posted 12/09/05 7:15am

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Make It Last Forever Lp was off the hook and on "Right and a Wrong Way" if the back ground vocals sound familiar it's Emmanuel Rahiem LeBlanc of G.Q.
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Reply #5 posted 12/09/05 7:40am

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I have never liked Keith Sweat from day one. He was mainly a balladeer and the few uptempo songs he had were weak, light, and poppish. That you Shitney Houston for opening the doors for artists like this. Someone like Keith Sweat would never have survived in the early 1980s.

Prince, on the other hand, had plenty of hardcore funk and his funk was strong. His ballads were also extremely sensual.

I like my artists to be mosty uptempo with a few ballads. Not the other way around....mostly ballads and an uptempo song every blue moon.
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Reply #6 posted 12/09/05 4:24pm

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vainandy said:

I have never liked Keith Sweat from day one. He was mainly a balladeer and the few uptempo songs he had were weak, light, and poppish. That you Shitney Houston for opening the doors for artists like this. Someone like Keith Sweat would never have survived in the early 1980s.

Prince, on the other hand, had plenty of hardcore funk and his funk was strong. His ballads were also extremely sensual.

I like my artists to be mosty uptempo with a few ballads. Not the other way around....mostly ballads and an uptempo song every blue moon.
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keith was great. He and teddy practically saved rnb. I read "i want her" was basically the official birth of newjack. Thank god for that.

Though keith is only good in small doses i give u that. "why me" with ll cool j is a firm fav, and part 2 remix of that song is dope too.

gotta love "merry go round" aswell. His 3rd album had its moments. He never really did uptempo's. He did a few on his 3rd album. "i really love u" i think is one of them. "make u sweat" was midtempo, but it sure was funky.

"u say no, i say yes, gi, girl i bet i can make u sweat". Innocent stuff, but sexy.
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Reply #7 posted 12/09/05 6:09pm

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thesexofit said:

keith was great. He and teddy practically saved rnb.


eek
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Reply #8 posted 12/09/05 8:06pm

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Keith always seemed to be doing undercover country music to me. He was a country artist, with every listen, masquerading as an R&B singer.

Couldn't dig it. Still can't.
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Reply #9 posted 12/10/05 5:01am

Veego

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LoL Prince was at his most creative in the 80,s and early 90,s bad eara to put someone like Keith up against him in .
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Reply #10 posted 12/11/05 1:29am

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I remember my mom coming back with the 12" of "I Want Her" and playing it to death on our record player!!!!

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I was hooked ever since...
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Reply #11 posted 12/11/05 12:07pm

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thesexofit said:

vainandy said:

I have never liked Keith Sweat from day one. He was mainly a balladeer and the few uptempo songs he had were weak, light, and poppish. That you Shitney Houston for opening the doors for artists like this. Someone like Keith Sweat would never have survived in the early 1980s.

Prince, on the other hand, had plenty of hardcore funk and his funk was strong. His ballads were also extremely sensual.

I like my artists to be mosty uptempo with a few ballads. Not the other way around....mostly ballads and an uptempo song every blue moon.
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keith was great. He and teddy practically saved rnb. I read "i want her" was basically the official birth of newjack. Thank god for that.

Though keith is only good in small doses i give u that. "why me" with ll cool j is a firm fav, and part 2 remix of that song is dope too.

gotta love "merry go round" aswell. His 3rd album had its moments. He never really did uptempo's. He did a few on his 3rd album. "i really love u" i think is one of them. "make u sweat" was midtempo, but it sure was funky.

"u say no, i say yes, gi, girl i bet i can make u sweat". Innocent stuff, but sexy.

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How can you save RnB we you can't sing. I still believe to this day that it was Payola that got this guy on the radio.
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Reply #12 posted 12/11/05 12:10pm

RipHer2Shreds

laurarichardson said:

thesexofit said:




keith was great. He and teddy practically saved rnb. I read "i want her" was basically the official birth of newjack. Thank god for that.

Though keith is only good in small doses i give u that. "why me" with ll cool j is a firm fav, and part 2 remix of that song is dope too.

gotta love "merry go round" aswell. His 3rd album had its moments. He never really did uptempo's. He did a few on his 3rd album. "i really love u" i think is one of them. "make u sweat" was midtempo, but it sure was funky.

"u say no, i say yes, gi, girl i bet i can make u sweat". Innocent stuff, but sexy.

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How can you save RnB we you can't sing. I still believe to this day that it was Payola that got this guy on the radio.


Keith can't sing, but he wrote and produced some good songs. I think that's what got him on the radio. I just kinda accepted that his voice was always gonna sound like he just gargled with tacks and enjoyed the songs themselves.
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Reply #13 posted 12/11/05 12:13pm

RipHer2Shreds

vainandy said:

thesexofit said:

keith was great. He and teddy practically saved rnb.


eek

falloff A bit of an overstatement, ain't it?
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Reply #14 posted 12/11/05 12:19pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

laurarichardson said:


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How can you save RnB we you can't sing. I still believe to this day that it was Payola that got this guy on the radio.


Keith can't sing, but he wrote and produced some good songs. I think that's what got him on the radio. I just kinda accepted that his voice was always gonna sound like he just gargled with tacks and enjoyed the songs themselves.

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The songs were not the great with the exception of "There you go telling me no again" on the New Jack City soundtrack and that would have been better if found someone else to sing it.

I am sorry gargled tack singing does not make you the savior of RnB.
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Reply #15 posted 12/11/05 12:27pm

RipHer2Shreds

laurarichardson said:

RipHer2Shreds said:



Keith can't sing, but he wrote and produced some good songs. I think that's what got him on the radio. I just kinda accepted that his voice was always gonna sound like he just gargled with tacks and enjoyed the songs themselves.

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The songs were not the great with the exception of "There you go telling me no again" on the New Jack City soundtrack and that would have been better if found someone else to sing it.

I am sorry gargled tack singing does not make you the savior of RnB.

I'm not the one saying he saved R&B. Save it for thesexofit.
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Reply #16 posted 12/11/05 12:28pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

vainandy said:



eek

falloff A bit of an overstatement, ain't it?


For real. lol
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Reply #17 posted 12/11/05 3:51pm

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I always thought Keith Sweat was alright. In NYC, they played his stuff to death in 88. You could not escape I Want Her, Something Just Ain't Right, and Make It Last Forever. Those songs were everywhere but I liked them and still do. He did whine a whole lot but those 3 songs were off the chain. Nobody and Twisted weren't bad either.
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Reply #18 posted 12/12/05 4:40am

DavidEye

namepeace said:

Keith Sweat's debut joint was the jam. His follow up albums got progressively whiny.


Exactly.His debut album is superb,with one fine song after another.I never bought anything else by him,but I do like his 1996 slow jam "Nobody".
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Reply #19 posted 12/13/05 2:53pm

thesexofit

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vainandy said:



For real. lol



ok, so teddy didn't save it, but hey, he moved rnb forward. As u have said a million times, adult contemporary was taking over rnb by the mid 80's. Luther, peobo, freddie jackson, and it was obviously excluding the younger crowd (u had new edition but that was more bubblegum pop). Newjack opened doors for new, younger acts and artists with a style of music not seen in rnb before.
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Reply #20 posted 12/13/05 6:48pm

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thesexofit said:

vainandy said:



For real. lol



ok, so teddy didn't save it, but hey, he moved rnb forward. As u have said a million times, adult contemporary was taking over rnb by the mid 80's. Luther, peobo, freddie jackson, and it was obviously excluding the younger crowd (u had new edition but that was more bubblegum pop). Newjack opened doors for new, younger acts and artists with a style of music not seen in rnb before.


That's true but Keith Sweat's uptempo songs were not the strong types like Cameo's "Word Up", Jesse Johnson, Ready For The World, Madame X, Chaka Khan's "Earth To Mickey", Egyptian Lover, Trinere, Janet Jackson, or Pretty Tony and Freestyle....groups that were kicking the hard funk in the late 1980s. Keith's uptempo were more weak and poppish kind of like Johnny Kemp's "Just Got Paid" or Calloway's "I Wanna Be Rich".
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Reply #21 posted 12/14/05 12:13am

chunky

Keith Sweat yea, i remember ... where did he go?

cheque baby cheque baby one to three check baby cheque baby one.... was he with blackstreet? did he do "no diggidy"
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Reply #22 posted 12/14/05 6:01am

angela74

chunky said:

Keith Sweat yea, i remember ... where did he go?

cheque baby cheque baby one to three check baby cheque baby one.... was he with blackstreet? did he do "no diggidy"
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No, that was Teddy Riley. Yes he did no diggity with his group Blackstreet.
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Reply #23 posted 12/14/05 6:04am

RipHer2Shreds

angela74 said:

chunky said:

Keith Sweat yea, i remember ... where did he go?

cheque baby cheque baby one to three check baby cheque baby one.... was he with blackstreet? did he do "no diggidy"
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No, that was Teddy Riley. Yes he did no diggity with his group Blackstreet.

Just to clarify - Teddy was with Blackstreet, not Keith Sweat. And the "check baby" (I like the variant of "cheque" that you threw in there, too lol) was Rump Shaker by Wreckx-N-Effect, another Teddy Riley project.
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Reply #24 posted 12/14/05 4:39pm

chunky

RipHer2Shreds said:

angela74 said:


No, that was Teddy Riley. Yes he did no diggity with his group Blackstreet.

Just to clarify - Teddy was with Blackstreet, not Keith Sweat. And the "check baby" (I like the variant of "cheque" that you threw in there, too lol) was Rump Shaker by Wreckx-N-Effect, another Teddy Riley project.



thanks for the info and clarifying
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Reply #25 posted 12/14/05 5:56pm

jayvolz

chunky said:[quote]Keith Sweat yea, i remember ... where did he go?

He was just in concert at the local casino in Tacoma last month. Doing the small club circuit I guess.
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