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Reply #30 posted 12/09/05 7:24am

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Anxiety said:

OdysseyMiles said:



Really? I simply assumed he wasn't able to make it.
You mean they didn't allow him to do it with her?


it would have been far more dynamic...even if her co-star who sang it in the movie appeared with her. i enjoyed her performance, but it was a little static with her there alone in her little swan dress.



they actually had rehearsed it and at the last moment the producer cut his part to shorten the number.

they could have gone all out and added dancers and a train and simply repeated the choreography from the film. stupid stupid oscar producers.....
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Reply #31 posted 12/09/05 7:46am

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Have you guys heard Bjork's Drawing Restraint #9 CD? It's her latest and it's a soundtrack to some movie. It has other vocalists besides Bjork. It's very different but I like it. It's got elements of Bjork's last three CDs Selma Songs, Vespertine, and Medulla. It's also very sparse with almost no beats. I like it better than Medulla.
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Reply #32 posted 12/09/05 8:34am

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sosgemini said:

Anxiety said:



it would have been far more dynamic...even if her co-star who sang it in the movie appeared with her. i enjoyed her performance, but it was a little static with her there alone in her little swan dress.



they actually had rehearsed it and at the last moment the producer cut his part to shorten the number.

they could have gone all out and added dancers and a train and simply repeated the choreography from the film. stupid stupid oscar producers.....


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Reply #33 posted 12/09/05 12:56pm

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Oh god, I wish I hadn't just read that. She's offensive. Obviously she doesn't know anything about meditation or spiritual practices. Meditation is WAY different than playing golf, getting drunk, or even singing. I've meditated for years and practiced many techniques and nobody ever TOLD me how to meditate, though I have consulted with teachers. One of the purposes is to rely less on and detach from the ego, which she seems to have trouble with.



interesting...meditation means many thing to many people....personally, for me, yes....yes you can meditate while golfing..riding your bike or walking. and i have never heard of meditation having anything to do with ego. so i guess we all have our own takes on what meditation actually is.


i will say this, one of my yoga classmates attended a meditation convention in SF a few weeks back. he said that the two instructors were fighting over the direction of one of the sessions. one ladies concept was more psyhcology based. she kept trying to get the class to reach into childhood pains and the reasons for negative thoughts...the other instructor simply wanted to class to free its mind of lenghty thought...the guy said it was soo funny to hear them calmy (with quiet voices) fight.


I follow practices of Vedanta, an ancient tradition that has been thoroughly tested over the centuries, whose scriptures are the oldest in the world. So for me, meditation is a fundamental practice contained within a whole package of guidelines and teachings. While there are definitely psychological and health benefits, it's mainly used as a path toward reaching the Self, the Ultimate, Brahman, "Thou art That"...not merely the little ego self involved in psychological dramas. That's why the ego has to be shed in the process.
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Reply #34 posted 12/09/05 1:05pm

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heartbeatocean said:

Oh god, I wish I hadn't just read that. She's offensive. Obviously she doesn't know anything about meditation or spiritual practices. Meditation is WAY different than playing golf, getting drunk, or even singing. I've meditated for years and practiced many techniques and nobody ever TOLD me how to meditate, though I have consulted with teachers. One of the purposes is to rely less on and detach from the ego, which she seems to have trouble with.


i'm not sure you read it exactly right.

i don't think bjork was saying that she thinks conventional methods of meditation are wrong or bad or distasteful. i think she was just saying that for HER, being instructed on how to meditate didn't work. i totally agree with what she's saying. meditation is different for different people. some people benefit from someone instructing them and saying "if you do THIS and THIS and THIS, then you are officially meditating." others kinda grow up finding their own little internal happy place where they can breathe and be still. i think her comment just acknowledges something simple about human nature.


Perhaps, but the phrase: Well, I'd always resisted meditation with a full-on defense mechanism, but I'd never understood why. I wouldn't meditate — no way, ever — makes me think it's an ego issue for her. Such resistance seems to contain a judgment in it, for why resist so ferociously and not remain open? It's a harmless enough act to sit down and look inside yourself, unless you're afraid of what you'll see.

And while I can accept the idea of Zen golfing or Zen singing, it's seems to be ignorant to say that getting drunk is equal to meditation for some people, when it's the opposite. Alcohol consumption clouds Consciousness, whereas meditation illumines It -- which is why I don't think she really understands what she's talking about.
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Reply #35 posted 12/09/05 1:41pm

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Anxiety said:



i'm not sure you read it exactly right.

i don't think bjork was saying that she thinks conventional methods of meditation are wrong or bad or distasteful. i think she was just saying that for HER, being instructed on how to meditate didn't work. i totally agree with what she's saying. meditation is different for different people. some people benefit from someone instructing them and saying "if you do THIS and THIS and THIS, then you are officially meditating." others kinda grow up finding their own little internal happy place where they can breathe and be still. i think her comment just acknowledges something simple about human nature.


Perhaps, but the phrase: Well, I'd always resisted meditation with a full-on defense mechanism, but I'd never understood why. I wouldn't meditate — no way, ever — makes me think it's an ego issue for her. Such resistance seems to contain a judgment in it, for why resist so ferociously and not remain open? It's a harmless enough act to sit down and look inside yourself, unless you're afraid of what you'll see.

And while I can accept the idea of Zen golfing or Zen singing, it's seems to be ignorant to say that getting drunk is equal to meditation for some people, when it's the opposite. Alcohol consumption clouds Consciousness, whereas meditation illumines It -- which is why I don't think she really understands what she's talking about.


yeah, but you're thinking within the rules and borders of your spirituality and your worldview, and denying her the right to express what works for her. i don't think she's making an empirical statement about the uselessness of meditation in the world. i think she's just saying it's not for HER.
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Reply #36 posted 12/09/05 2:02pm

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heartbeatocean said:



Perhaps, but the phrase: Well, I'd always resisted meditation with a full-on defense mechanism, but I'd never understood why. I wouldn't meditate — no way, ever — makes me think it's an ego issue for her. Such resistance seems to contain a judgment in it, for why resist so ferociously and not remain open? It's a harmless enough act to sit down and look inside yourself, unless you're afraid of what you'll see.

And while I can accept the idea of Zen golfing or Zen singing, it's seems to be ignorant to say that getting drunk is equal to meditation for some people, when it's the opposite. Alcohol consumption clouds Consciousness, whereas meditation illumines It -- which is why I don't think she really understands what she's talking about.


yeah, but you're thinking within the rules and borders of your spirituality and your worldview, and denying her the right to express what works for her. i don't think she's making an empirical statement about the uselessness of meditation in the world. i think she's just saying it's not for HER.


I'm not denying anyone's right to express themselves, but I do find her attitude toward meditation a bit limiting. There are a lot of misconceptions flying around due to poor teachers, popularized New Age trends, and pop stars getting their opinions published because they're pop stars.
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Reply #37 posted 12/09/05 2:10pm

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i can totally see how she draws comparisons between getting splattered
and meditating. i've done both. numerous times. and the outcome is the
same. the only difference is that with meditation the pay off is right
then and there and with binge drinking it comes spread out over a few,
or a few more lol, days of recouperation.

both allow you to get stress and bad energy out of your system and to
disconnect from the source of negativity for a while.

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Reply #38 posted 12/09/05 8:38pm

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"I've Seen It All" is the shit.
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Reply #39 posted 12/09/05 11:04pm

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"I've Seen It All" is the shit.


Yessuh!
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Reply #40 posted 12/10/05 12:11am

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not at all , Radiohead are cool , Bjork ..., well , isn't smile
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Reply #41 posted 12/10/05 1:43am

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not at all , Radiohead are cool , Bjork ..., well , isn't smile

Bjork doesn't need to be cool. That's how good she is.
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Reply #42 posted 12/10/05 8:26am

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Can someone clarify this for me? Was thom yorke the actor in Dancer in the Dark or just the voice on the song? I'm really confused.
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Reply #43 posted 12/10/05 8:31am

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Can someone clarify this for me? Was thom yorke the actor in Dancer in the Dark or just the voice on the song? I'm really confused.

He's just on the album version.

There are also versions from the movie with the male part sung by her co-star, and a solo version for the Webeo (online music video).
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Reply #44 posted 12/10/05 8:34am

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GangstaFam said:

heartbeatocean said:

Can someone clarify this for me? Was thom yorke the actor in Dancer in the Dark or just the voice on the song? I'm really confused.

He's just on the album version.

There are also versions from the movie with the male part sung by her co-star, and a solo version for the Webeo (online music video).


Oh, thanks. Gosh that just threw me. I love that guy in the movie, the character, her sort of dim-witted yet devoted suitor. I thought he was a really beautiful character for the story and unusual.
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Reply #45 posted 12/10/05 5:39pm

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heartbeatocean said:

GangstaFam said:


He's just on the album version.

There are also versions from the movie with the male part sung by her co-star, and a solo version for the Webeo (online music video).


Oh, thanks. Gosh that just threw me. I love that guy in the movie, the character, her sort of dim-witted yet devoted suitor. I thought he was a really beautiful character for the story and unusual.


Peter Stormare




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Reply #46 posted 12/10/05 5:42pm

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sosgemini said:

heartbeatocean said:



Oh, thanks. Gosh that just threw me. I love that guy in the movie, the character, her sort of dim-witted yet devoted suitor. I thought he was a really beautiful character for the story and unusual.


Peter Stormare






yeah, he was good.
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Reply #47 posted 12/10/05 5:49pm

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remember him in fargo?
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Reply #48 posted 12/10/05 5:55pm

GangstaFam

I like the Brodsky Strings version from Family Tree too. nod
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Reply #49 posted 12/10/05 5:56pm

CinisterCee

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remember him in fargo?


aw jeez.
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Reply #50 posted 12/10/05 5:57pm

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I like the Brodsky Strings version from Family Tree too. nod


me too! I loved that box set.
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Reply #51 posted 12/10/05 5:57pm

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me too! I loved that box set.

It could've been better, but I love the Strings discs.
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Reply #52 posted 12/10/05 5:59pm

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CinisterCee said:


me too! I loved that box set.

It could've been better, but I love the Strings discs.


I have a whole concert of Bjork with Brodsky Quartet from `99. It's alot of Bjorky hits, plus covers like "Anyone Who Had A Heart" and "Downtown".
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Reply #53 posted 12/10/05 6:00pm

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I have a whole concert of Bjork with Brodsky Quartet from `99. It's alot of Bjorky hits, plus covers like "Anyone Who Had A Heart" and "Downtown".

I LOVE that concert!
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Reply #54 posted 12/10/05 11:21pm

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IstenSzek said:

i would simply pee my pants for a week if Björk popped up on the new Radiohead album!

What if she only showed up to bark like a dog?
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Reply #55 posted 12/11/05 9:27am

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I like the Brodsky Strings version from Family Tree too. nod


i never got that...is it worth the money?
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Reply #56 posted 12/11/05 9:41pm

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remember him in fargo?


no, but then I hated that movie
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Reply #57 posted 12/12/05 5:37am

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eek
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Reply #58 posted 12/12/05 6:07am

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i never got that...is it worth the money?

Hard to say. The Strings discs are lovely. But the rest is kind of a waste.

The little 3" CD"s are difficult to get out of their cases. And the little 3" cases plus the book, plus the full sized 5" CD with no case at all are next to impossible to get back into that flimsy, ridiculous pink plastic outer shell. And they really scimp on the extras. It was a perfect opportunity to include rare collaborations, demos, more b-sides, unreleased mixes, etc. Basically all we got (other than the strings discs), is a demo version of "The Modern Things", Icelandic versions of "Birthday" and "Mama" I believe, a Kukl track, and a few other tidbits. Of course, the artwork and the concept are pretty cool, but that goes without saying. It's just impractical and a wasted opportunity to really wow people with her, at that time, 25 years in the music business. If she'd consulted me, I would've done it much differently. wink
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Reply #59 posted 12/12/05 8:55pm

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eek


eek yourself wink
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