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PrintableEMattP said: There is this one band, that kinda starte out gothic but had more pop edge...I think they're called Everpresent...
ah... there it is... http://www.everpresent.org Thank you, EMattP. How did you come across this band? | |
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CarrieLee said: Skinny Puppy
Coil Current 93 My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult KMFDM What's your favorite KMFDM album? Yesterday, I bought their new album, "Hau Ruck" and I am so into into it. When I listen to it while I am driving, I feel that I am in my own action sci-fi movie.  | |
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re: Everpresent
Just searched for them on Itunes and downloaded a couple tracks.. KMFDM rocks...my favorite album would have to be the one wit Juke Joint Jezebel on it... | |
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sextonseven what did you mean when you said sex gang children were spotty? | |
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for something a little more recent check out Covenant. Northern Light is a pretty good album. | |
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Tom said: for something a little more recent check out Covenant. Northern Light is a pretty good album.
Definitely. There was one summer a few years back when all I listened to was Covenant, couldn't get enough it. It's also pretty damn good music for the winter time, as is most cold Scandinavian industrial stuff from Dark Ambient to Covenant's current Futurepop stuff. [Edited 12/9/05 4:29am] | |
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Novabreaker said: Tom said: for something a little more recent check out Covenant. Northern Light is a pretty good album.
Definitely. There was one summer a few years back when all I listened to was Covenant, couldn't get enough it. It's also pretty damn good music for the winter time, as is most cold Scandinavian industrial stuff from Dark Ambient to Covenant's current Futurepop stuff. [Edited 12/9/05 4:29am] How does Futurepop sound like? | |
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weepingwall said: sextonseven what did you mean when you said sex gang children were spotty?
I think their output is inconsistent. Lots of great tracks like "Mauritia Mayer" and "Dieche", but lots of bad tracks also. | |
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gyro34 said: Actually, what turned me off about Rasputina was the song "Rats" from the album Cabin Fever. I found it to be racist and condescending towards Bolivians. My distaste with Melora's voice came after this. I think you're taking the lyrics way too seriously. | |
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sextonseven said: gyro34 said: Actually, what turned me off about Rasputina was the song "Rats" from the album Cabin Fever. I found it to be racist and condescending towards Bolivians. My distaste with Melora's voice came after this. I think you're taking the lyrics way too seriously. It is somewhat easy for me not to take some things too seriously but not in this case. Bolivians are neighbors of Peruvians. I am Peruvian. I don't see how Melora's lyrics wouldn't offend me. [Edited 12/13/05 18:39pm] | |
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gyro34 said: Novabreaker said: Definitely. There was one summer a few years back when all I listened to was Covenant, couldn't get enough it. It's also pretty damn good music for the winter time, as is most cold Scandinavian industrial stuff from Dark Ambient to Covenant's current Futurepop stuff. [Edited 12/9/05 4:29am] How does Futurepop sound like? its a really banal style of music..such picture gary numan lyrics and sounds overly hyped..very boring..example of futurepop bands are VNV Nation and another cyber punk band. | |
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weepingwall said: gyro34 said: How does Futurepop sound like? its a really banal style of music..such picture gary numan lyrics and sounds overly hyped..very boring..example of futurepop bands are VNV Nation and another cyber punk band.  It can also be very beautiful music if you are willing to listen to it and are willing to dig deeper into its aesthetic. As for the claim of "banality", futurepop is from the outset one of the most subversive music styles ever invented. The juxtaposition of the goth vocals and the "trendy" bright synths is certainly quite unorthodox. Some people just don't get it at all - their loss.
Futurepop is basically "industrial trance". The natural progression of the EBM sound. | |
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Novabreaker said: weepingwall said: its a really banal style of music..such picture gary numan lyrics and sounds overly hyped..very boring..example of futurepop bands are VNV Nation and another cyber punk band. It can also be very beautiful music if you are willing to listen to it and are willing to dig deeper into its aesthetic. As for the claim of "banality", futurepop is from the outset one of the most subversive music styles ever invented. The juxtaposition of the goth vocals and the "trendy" bright synths is certainly quite unorthodox. Some people just don't get it at all - their loss.
Futurepop is basically "industrial trance". The natural progression of the EBM sound. Two different viewpoints. Uhm, I'll check futurepop out and see if I like it. Novabreaker, Have you listened to Mindless Self Indulgence? Do you think that they have some elements of futurepop? | |
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gyro34 said: Novabreaker said: It can also be very beautiful music if you are willing to listen to it and are willing to dig deeper into its aesthetic. As for the claim of "banality", futurepop is from the outset one of the most subversive music styles ever invented. The juxtaposition of the goth vocals and the "trendy" bright synths is certainly quite unorthodox. Some people just don't get it at all - their loss.
Futurepop is basically "industrial trance". The natural progression of the EBM sound. Two different viewpoints. Uhm, I'll check futurepop out and see if I like it. Novabreaker, Have you listened to Mindless Self Indulgence? Do you think that they have some elements of futurepop? Mindless Self Indulgence are definitely not futurepop. I find them really difficult to describe which I'm sure is how they like it. Perhaps 'punk-industrial-hip hop' would be most accurate. | |
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gyro34 said: sextonseven said: I think you're taking the lyrics way too seriously. It is somewhat easy for me not to take some things too seriously but not in this case. Bolivians are neighbors of Peruvians. I am Peruvian. I don't see how Melora's lyrics wouldn't offend me. [Edited 12/13/05 18:39pm] I believe she just chose a country out of thin air for this song and didn't mean for it to slight Bolivians specifically. And it sounds like a centuries old tale, not something that happened recently. | |
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gyro34 said: Novabreaker, Have you listened to Mindless Self Indulgence? Do you think that they have some elements of futurepop?
I think that's one of those bands that the industrial folks in general tend to eschew, alongside with Babyland, Pigface, Pitchshifter and such. Just remember kids: "if it's got guitars - it ain't industrial!"  | |
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sextonseven said: gyro34 said: It is somewhat easy for me not to take some things too seriously but not in this case. Bolivians are neighbors of Peruvians. I am Peruvian. I don't see how Melora's lyrics wouldn't offend me. [Edited 12/13/05 18:39pm] I believe she just chose a country out of thin air for this song and didn't mean for it to slight Bolivians specifically. And it sounds like a centuries old tale, not something that happened recently. Don't most of her albums have a nostalgia for the past? I took "Rats" out of context.  | |
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sextonseven said: Seriously, I can give you a long list of pure goth bands I like and a list of pure industrial artists also, but as for bands that straddle the line between the two, I can't think of that many that I like.
The first one that comes to mind is Collide. I have a few of their CDs and they're pretty good. Project Pitchfork might be considered industrial-goth, but I only have one best-of comp by them from like ten years ago. I don't even know if they are still around anymore. Snake River Conspiracy was a band from a few years ago that to me was in the same vein as the Kidneythieves so try looking them up. If you're willing to stretch the boundaries a little then the very first band I would recommend is Deadsy. Elijah Blue christened his group's sound as 'undercore', but my own description of them would be 'new-wave-doom-metal'. Novabreaker might be a better person to comment on this. I just checked out Snake River Conspiracy and I am loving what I call the James Bond 007 vibe. | |
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CarrieLee said: Skinny Puppy
Coil Current 93 My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult KMFDM Skinny Puppy is awesome. I have bought three of their albums: Too Dark Park, Bites and The Greater Wrong of the Right. KMFDM, they are German, aren't they? I am loving these guys too. | |
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gyro34 said: I just checked out Snake River Conspiracy and I am loving what I call the James Bond 007 vibe. 007 vibe? I didn't get that impression from their music, but I haven't listened to the album in a long time. I'll have to keep that in mind next time. | |
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sextonseven said: gyro34 said: I just checked out Snake River Conspiracy and I am loving what I call the James Bond 007 vibe. 007 vibe? I didn't get that impression from their music, but I haven't listened to the album in a long time. I'll have to keep that in mind next time. Oh, I mean 007 vibe in a good way. I am big fan of action-sci-fi. | |
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Novabreaker said: Tom said: for something a little more recent check out Covenant. Northern Light is a pretty good album.
Definitely. There was one summer a few years back when all I listened to was Covenant, couldn't get enough it. It's also pretty damn good music for the winter time, as is most cold Scandinavian industrial stuff from Dark Ambient to Covenant's current Futurepop stuff. [Edited 12/9/05 4:29am] I just bought Covenant's Northern Light album. It has a seated man that has snow all over him. I am very impressed with the delivery style from the main vocalist. [Edited 12/30/05 17:02pm] | |
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Neuroactive Spawn Ranch VNV Nation Manufacture Funker Vogt Fictional Lords of Acid Danielle Dax Decoded Feedback Covenant A Split Second Royksopp (remixed versions) Plus all of the others mentioned in the threads here have been excellent examples as well! | |
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Hm, can Joy Division be seen as a gothic band in way? There are forerunners, thats for sure. If so, i heavenly recommed them, although i still only know Substance (a kind of collection). I had to give them some tries, but now the music is tearing me up. Ian Curtis is definitly VERY intense. Fantastic stuff.
But I have troubles with Bauhaus. Though I have to admit that I am not that much into Gothic. After I had read some interessting comments and articles about them, i bought Crackle (okay, it is a Best of, bwtf). That was in early 2002 - and their music did not work for me. Though they have their moments. My favourite one is by far "Passion of Lovers", followed by "Kick In The Eye" and the Ziggy-cover (that I actually like (slightly) better than the original!). Many of their songs on Crackle seem faint to me. But again, do not mind to try them out - just my feeling. PS.: are there JD remasters of their albums (including Still and Substance) out there? I do not want to buy this Box. | |
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SenseOfDoubt said: Hm, can Joy Division be seen as a gothic band in way? There are forerunners, thats for sure. If so, i heavenly recommed them, although i still only know Substance (a kind of collection). I had to give them some tries, but now the music is tearing me up. Ian Curtis is definitly VERY intense. Fantastic stuff.
But I have troubles with Bauhaus. Though I have to admit that I am not that much into Gothic. After I had read some interessting comments and articles about them, i bought Crackle (okay, it is a Best of, bwtf). That was in early 2002 - and their music did not work for me. Though they have their moments. My favourite one is by far "Passion of Lovers", followed by "Kick In The Eye" and the Ziggy-cover (that I actually like (slightly) better than the original!). Many of their songs on Crackle seem faint to me. But again, do not mind to try them out - just my feeling. PS.: are there JD remasters of their albums (including Still and Substance) out there? I do not want to buy this Box. Though I have never listened to Joy Division, the site www.allmusic.com considers them to be post-punk. I myself usually give bands a chance and like to experiment with different music styles. But if an album doesn't work for me I sell it. | |
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gyro34 said: Though I have never listened to Joy Division, Hm, you should give them a try, really! Try, if you want, one of these songs - "Radio Transmission" - "These Days" - "Atmosphere" - "Love Will Tear us Apart" (i think their most famous song) All of those songs are on "Substance", a kind of compilation that features singles that were never on one of the 2 regular albums, and some very old recordings. You might give them some time, but they grew enormously on me within a short time. | |
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gyro34 said: SenseOfDoubt said: Hm, can Joy Division be seen as a gothic band in way? There are forerunners, thats for sure. If so, i heavenly recommed them, although i still only know Substance (a kind of collection). I had to give them some tries, but now the music is tearing me up. Ian Curtis is definitly VERY intense. Fantastic stuff.
But I have troubles with Bauhaus. Though I have to admit that I am not that much into Gothic. After I had read some interessting comments and articles about them, i bought Crackle (okay, it is a Best of, bwtf). That was in early 2002 - and their music did not work for me. Though they have their moments. My favourite one is by far "Passion of Lovers", followed by "Kick In The Eye" and the Ziggy-cover (that I actually like (slightly) better than the original!). Many of their songs on Crackle seem faint to me. But again, do not mind to try them out - just my feeling. PS.: are there JD remasters of their albums (including Still and Substance) out there? I do not want to buy this Box. Though I have never listened to Joy Division, the site www.allmusic.com considers them to be post-punk. I myself usually give bands a chance and like to experiment with different music styles. But if an album doesn't work for me I sell it. | |
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gyro34 said: Though I have never listened to Joy Division, Hm, you should give them a try, really! Try, if you want, one of these songs - "Transmission" - "These Days" - "Atmosphere" - "Love Will Tear us Apart" (i think their most famous song) All of those songs are on "Substance", a kind of compilation that features singles that were never on one of the 2 regular albums, as well as many other gems. You might give them some time, but they grew enormously on me within a short time. [Edited 1/3/06 11:52am] | |
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