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which song is musically more important--nirvana's "smells like teen spirit" or Grandmaster Flash/FF "the Message"? 2 revolutionary songs that changed the landscape of music in the last 30 years. which one wil be remembered as more groundbreaking? you look better on your facebook page than you do in person  | |
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hahaha GrandMaster before Teen Spirit | |
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"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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which one is kurt cobain? you look better on your facebook page than you do in person | |
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Thankfully, none of them. 
theAudience said: Grandmaster by a landslide..... | |
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If they were both groundbreaking then how can one be more important than the other? Repo Man's got all night, every night. | |
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meltwithu said: 2 revolutionary songs that changed the landscape of music in the last 30 years. which one wil be remembered as more groundbreaking?
Depends if ur into hip hop or rock, both | |
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Hard to say. I know which one I like better, but that's not what this is about. | |
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RepoMan said: If they were both groundbreaking then how can one be more important than the other?
"Teen Spirit" was a great song that energized rock; "The Message" was a groundbreaking song that transformed a genre and made it legitimate to the world....I'd say the latter is more important than the other (which I dig...) | |
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twink69 said: meltwithu said: 2 revolutionary songs that changed the landscape of music in the last 30 years. which one wil be remembered as more groundbreaking?
Depends if ur into hip hop or rock, both Not really...there's a way to acknowledge the importance of a song without digging an actual genre...I'm not the biggest country music fan in the world but I know "Stand By Your Man" is more important than an influential song like the Sex Pistol's "God Save The Queen." | |
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meltwithu said: 2 revolutionary songs that changed the landscape of music in the last 30 years. which one wil be remembered as more groundbreaking?
in 30 years we'll recall "the message" in the same way we do "marvin gayes "what's goin on" and curtis mayfields work fom 1968'-74'.... | |
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Both are great songs and near impossible to compare, IMHO. I'm sure The Message would get more love here. | |
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We all should know that diversity makes for a rich tapestry, and we must understand that all the threads of the tapestry are equal in value no matter what their color. Maya Angelou | |
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meltwithu said: 2 revolutionary songs that changed the landscape of music in the last 30 years. which one wil be remembered as more groundbreaking?
in terms of lyrics? then the messege would win.smells like teen spirit's lyrics arent upfront to the ear. where the messege was strong in the story/lyrics teen spirit was strong in other ways. . . [Edited 12/3/05 0:00am] | |
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Well, where is Grunge today and where is Rap today. Rap is on top. Grunge is almost non-existent. Not to downplay the role of Nirvana, etc. but it was just rock music that was given a new name. | |
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never cared for Nirvana, so my obvious choice gotta be Grandmaster Flash Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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I think "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is more akin to "Rapper's Delight" as far as launching a genre into commercial popularity/awareness.
They both pushed boundaries in their own different ways... | |
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The Message
I don't understand what is so special about "Teen Spirit"... Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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I would say The Message . I listened to some rock but Im more into rap. The Message was one of the rap songs that set the big trend to hip hop and really told a story as far as Im concerned. Teen Sprit was deep too but like what was said earlier Grunge rock is hardly known now. | |
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Nirvana's Teen Spirit IMO is pointless and ANYONE who kills themselves should not be glorified, period. Its a good song butthats it.
The Message is my pick unless 'What's Going On' is in the running. ---------------------------------
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jthad1129 said: Nirvana's Teen Spirit IMO is pointless and ANYONE who kills themselves should not be glorified, period. Its a good song butthats it.
The Message is my pick unless 'What's Going On' is in the running. Why shouldn't he be idolized? They don't love him because he killed himself. He already was a huge star when he was alive. The fact that he felt that desperate that he killed himself is sad for the people close to him who loved him and doesn't mean that people should just forget about him or the impact that his music had. Repo Man's got all night, every night. | |
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pkidwell said: Well, where is Grunge today and where is Rap today. Rap is on top. Grunge is almost non-existent. Not to downplay the role of Nirvana, etc. but it was just rock music that was given a new name.
Indeed, where is rap nowadays? I'll tell you where it is. It's all about talking about how much money they're making and how many bitches they got. That's where rap is. Creatively rap is dead as a muthafuka. Repo Man's got all night, every night. | |
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RepoMan said: pkidwell said: Well, where is Grunge today and where is Rap today. Rap is on top. Grunge is almost non-existent. Not to downplay the role of Nirvana, etc. but it was just rock music that was given a new name.
Indeed, where is rap nowadays? I'll tell you where it is. It's all about talking about how much money they're making and how many bitches they got. That's where rap is. Creatively rap is dead as a muthafuka. Can't really argue with that. | |
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Thats true too. It is far in between that there are decent have fun type of rap.Positive or Negative Rap is in the mainstream . | |
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RepoMan said: pkidwell said: Well, where is Grunge today and where is Rap today. Rap is on top. Grunge is almost non-existent. Not to downplay the role of Nirvana, etc. but it was just rock music that was given a new name.
Indeed, where is rap nowadays? I'll tell you where it is. It's all about talking about how much money they're making and how many bitches they got. That's where rap is. Creatively rap is dead as a muthafuka. Nirvana is/was just a fad (a very short one at that). Fads also live forever like nostalgia, like bell bottoms, the afro and the magic 8 ball. ---------------------------------
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The Message a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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jthad1129 said: RepoMan said: Indeed, where is rap nowadays? I'll tell you where it is. It's all about talking about how much money they're making and how many bitches they got. That's where rap is. Creatively rap is dead as a muthafuka. Nirvana is/was just a fad (a very short one at that). Fads also live forever like nostalgia, like bell bottoms, the afro and the magic 8 ball. Nirvana a fad? Think again. They were quite popular, even at the time of Cobain's death. "Grunge" may have been a fad, but the reality is that it was plain old rock n roll. The music media just slapped a label on it to sell it to the public. | |
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"Smells Like Teen Spirit" is an incredibly overrated track. I mean, what new ground was broken there? Most mumbling in a rock vocal?
"The Message". By a landslide. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: jthad1129 said: Nirvana is/was just a fad (a very short one at that). Fads also live forever like nostalgia, like bell bottoms, the afro and the magic 8 ball. Nirvana a fad? Think again. They were quite popular, even at the time of Cobain's death. "Grunge" may have been a fad, but the reality is that it was plain old rock n roll. The music media just slapped a label on it to sell it to the public. Quite popular - exactly, just like white rappers ---------------------------------
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