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Thread started 11/27/05 1:34pm

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Tori was inspired by what Kate songs?

Jig of Life has to be one.
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Reply #1 posted 11/27/05 2:27pm

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You've opened up a can of worms.....Kate vs Tori rd. 4,000,000,000,000 tease "Jig of Life" hmmm that one never comes to mind.....maybe a little on Cornflake Girl. It's more of Kate's vocal stylings.....especially on "China". The whole essence of that one reminds me of Kate. I read where Tori loved Hounds of Love and The Sensual World, so I guess songs from those two albums.
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Reply #2 posted 11/27/05 2:29pm

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Mother Stands for Comfort.....definitely.
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Reply #3 posted 11/27/05 5:12pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

You've opened up a can of worms.....Kate vs Tori rd. 4,000,000,000,000 tease "Jig of Life" hmmm that one never comes to mind.....maybe a little on Cornflake Girl. It's more of Kate's vocal stylings.....especially on "China". The whole essence of that one reminds me of Kate. I read where Tori loved Hounds of Love and The Sensual World, so I guess songs from those two albums.

i'll find the interview if i can...tori had never heard kate bush until after several people, including friends, insisted they share similar elements. tori then bought all the kate bush records that had been released up to that time. i still don't hear all of these supposed similarities but, regardless, if this story is true, the so called similarities are purely coincidental.
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SassierBritches said:

AnckSuNamun said:

You've opened up a can of worms.....Kate vs Tori rd. 4,000,000,000,000 tease "Jig of Life" hmmm that one never comes to mind.....maybe a little on Cornflake Girl. It's more of Kate's vocal stylings.....especially on "China". The whole essence of that one reminds me of Kate. I read where Tori loved Hounds of Love and The Sensual World, so I guess songs from those two albums.

i'll find the interview if i can...tori had never heard kate bush until after several people, including friends, insisted they share similar elements. tori then bought all the kate bush records that had been released up to that time. i still don't hear all of these supposed similarities but, regardless, if this story is true, the so called similarities are purely coincidental.


hmmm so she says evillol tease
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Reply #5 posted 11/27/05 10:39pm

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some various quotes pertaining to the debate, one of which clarifies what i was vaguely referring to in the previous post.

"I got her work, and was really moved. And, more than anything, I was moved by her as a producer."
-- Tori; VH1's 100 Greatest Women Of Rock And Roll, July 26 - August 1, 1999

"The comparisons between me and her doesn't trouble me at all. She's a great artist, and this is just a game. Maybe, one day someone will say that that new singer looks and sounds like me".
-- Tori; Musica Magazine, 1996

T: I'll never forget the first time I heard about Kate. I was playing in a club, I was 18 or 19 and somebody came up to me, pointed their finger and said, Kate Bush. I went, 'Who's that?'. I wasn't really familiar because Kate didn't really happen in the States until Hounds Of Love. I was shocked because the last thing you want to hear is that you sound like someone else. Then people kept mentioning her name when they heard me sing, to the point where I finally went and got her records. When I first heard her, I went, Wow, she does things that I've never heard anybody do, much less me. But I could hear a resonance in the voice where you'd think we were distantly related or something.
I: So you were never influenced by her directly?
T: Well, I must tell you that when I heard her I was blown away by her. There's no question.
I: Did you sing along to the records.
T: Absolutely. But I knew that I had to be careful, so I didn't voraciously learn her catalogue. I left the records with my boyfriend at the time, because I didn't want to copy her.
-- Tori; Q Magazine, May 1998

"Those comparisons have come up since before I was 18. She's always been there. She came before me. You respect those who've come before you and she was great at what she did. I feel I took control of my record this time like she did too. When I walked into the studio the first day, I asked the engineers about all the buttons they had on their machines. 'Do they do stuff?' So 'stuff' was something I was ready to do. After Boys for Pele, when I took the piano and harpsichord to the church to record, I knew I was ready for this bigger experience."
-- Tori; BMG Interview, Mar 1999

"Well, I owned two [Kate Bush albums], which are of course "Hounds of Love" and the one after, "The Sensual World". I really love those two. Someone gave me "The Red Shoes", but then someone else stole it. People come to my beach house in Miami and some things go and some things arrive. Where did that ceramic squirrel come from?"
-- Tori; Attitude Magazine, Sept 2001

"Well, when I was about seventeen, I was playing clubs and people would come up to me and say, 'You sound like Kate Bush.' And at the time: seventeen, that was ... thirteen years ago, and I would say, 'I don't, I don't know that, but I've heard of her.' So eventually, of course, I got her record, and I didn't really think I sounded like her. But maybe there're moments--there're moments -- who knows what my great-great-great-great-grandfather was doing back there, you don't know where the genes go. I, I do admit that there are moments of 'God, that's uncanny.' I mean, I guess if somebody was going to do, like, you know, 'Is it live or is it Memorex?', we could probably do each other and nobody would know, unless you really have a good ear. But, um, she smokes a little more weed than I do, so I'd have to catch up. Just a little more.
-- Tori; CFNY Radio Toronto, Oct 12, 1995

I: Many critics have compared you to Kate Bush.
T: Yes, but I think that has nothing to do with my songs, just my voice. They hear these high sounds (sings) and immediately think of Kate Bush.
I: But your song concepts are completely different.
T: Yes, she works with other structures. But her songs are very original, and that's what matters.
-- Tori; Keyboards Magazine (German), Jun 1992

"Well.. if you're going to be compared to somebody, you know.. she's wonderful. She does what she does incredibly well and I've always admired her."
-- Tori; University Radio Warwick, 1994


pretty interesting stuff there, i think!
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Reply #6 posted 11/27/05 11:20pm

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SassierBritches said:


I: Many critics have compared you to Kate Bush.
T: Yes, but I think that has nothing to do with my songs, just my voice.


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T: Yes, she works with other structures.


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"Those comparisons have come up since before I was 18. She's always been there. She came before me. You respect those who've come before you and she was great at what she did. I feel I took control of my record this time like she did too. When I walked into the studio the first day, I asked the engineers about all the buttons they had on their machines. 'Do they do stuff?' So 'stuff' was something I was ready to do. After Boys for Pele, when I took the piano and harpsichord to the church to record, I knew I was ready for this bigger experience."
-- Tori; BMG Interview, Mar 1999

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Glad Tori took control when BFP came out....that's honestly where I stopped comparing her to Kate. smile Her vocal stylings had changed slightly too around that time. I had actually read these interviews a while back.....I was just being difficult tease
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AnckSuNamun said:

SassierBritches said:



"Those comparisons have come up since before I was 18. She's always been there. She came before me. You respect those who've come before you and she was great at what she did. I feel I took control of my record this time like she did too. When I walked into the studio the first day, I asked the engineers about all the buttons they had on their machines. 'Do they do stuff?' So 'stuff' was something I was ready to do. After Boys for Pele, when I took the piano and harpsichord to the church to record, I knew I was ready for this bigger experience."
-- Tori; BMG Interview, Mar 1999

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Glad Tori took control when BFP came out....that's honestly where I stopped comparing her to Kate. smile Her vocal stylings had changed slightly too around that time. I had actually read these interviews a while back.....I was just being difficult tease

i'm on to you! lol nah, i like the back and forth. its always fun for me! and any kind of talk about tori gets me all wet!
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Reply #9 posted 11/28/05 7:18pm

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SassierBritches said:

AnckSuNamun said:



Glad Tori took control when BFP came out....that's honestly where I stopped comparing her to Kate. smile Her vocal stylings had changed slightly too around that time. I had actually read these interviews a while back.....I was just being difficult tease

i'm on to you! lol nah, i like the back and forth. its always fun for me! and any kind of talk about tori gets me all wet!


demon lol
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Reply #10 posted 11/28/05 7:22pm

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i think a sorta fairy tell is somewhat a rip off of hounds of love..
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Reply #11 posted 11/28/05 7:24pm

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weepingwall said:

i think a sorta fairy tell is somewhat a rip off of hounds of love..


I LOVE that song, but I can't hear the HOL link. hmmm that's just me though.
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Reply #12 posted 11/28/05 7:27pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

weepingwall said:

i think a sorta fairy tell is somewhat a rip off of hounds of love..


I LOVE that song, but I can't hear the HOL link. hmmm that's just me though.




that part..where both of thier voices deepend..in the chorus line..
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Reply #13 posted 11/28/05 7:34pm

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weepingwall said:

AnckSuNamun said:



I LOVE that song, but I can't hear the HOL link. hmmm that's just me though.




that part..where both of thier voices deepend..in the chorus line..
[Edited 11/28/05 19:27pm]


ok....I had to play back those parts in my mind. I still can't hear it....I think that one's just a coincidence. lol I don't really hear much of Kate after Boys for Pele.
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Reply #14 posted 11/28/05 7:38pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

weepingwall said:





that part..where both of thier voices deepend..in the chorus line..
[Edited 11/28/05 19:27pm]


ok....I had to play back those parts in my mind. I still can't hear it....I think that one's just a coincidence. lol I don't really hear much of Kate after Boys for Pele.



on the other hand boys for pele happends to be my favorite tori album..i specially like that song BLOOD ROSES..that line.."when chickens get a taste of your meat"..its both chilly and funny..
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weepingwall said:

AnckSuNamun said:



ok....I had to play back those parts in my mind. I still can't hear it....I think that one's just a coincidence. lol I don't really hear much of Kate after Boys for Pele.



on the other hand boys for pele happends to be my favorite tori album..i specially like that song BLOOD ROSES..that line.."when chickens get a taste of your meat"..its both chilly and funny..


Yeah Blood Roses is my favorite song by Tori....I swear I can listen to it everyday. That's what got me hooked on the Harpsichord. For some odd reason I always think of Interview With The Vampire when I hear Blood Roses.....like I could it being played in the background of a scene in the movie. wacky lol
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Reply #16 posted 11/28/05 7:57pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

weepingwall said:




on the other hand boys for pele happends to be my favorite tori album..i specially like that song BLOOD ROSES..that line.."when chickens get a taste of your meat"..its both chilly and funny..


Yeah Blood Roses is my favorite song by Tori....I swear I can listen to it everyday. That's what got me hooked on the Harpsichord. For some odd reason I always think of Interview With The Vampire when I hear Blood Roses.....like I could it being played in the background of a scene in the movie. wacky lol



well if you like that song becuase of the harpsichord..then you should listen to malice mizer's beast of blood(instrumental) thought if you mine the japanese lyrics go ahead..point being..they go crazy on it on that song..its like new orleans vampirism clicheness lol.
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weepingwall said:

AnckSuNamun said:



Yeah Blood Roses is my favorite song by Tori....I swear I can listen to it everyday. That's what got me hooked on the Harpsichord. For some odd reason I always think of Interview With The Vampire when I hear Blood Roses.....like I could it being played in the background of a scene in the movie. wacky lol



well if you like that song becuase of the harpsichord..then you should listen to malice mizer's beast of blood(instrumental) thought if you mine the japanese lyrics go ahead..point being..they go crazy on it on that song..its like new orleans vampirism clicheness lol.


Cool....thanks biggrin I'm sure I can find it at Emule
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Reply #18 posted 11/28/05 8:19pm

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Am I the only one who hears a lot of similarities between Kate's voice and Cyndi Lauper's?

I think you can hear some likeness between Kate and Tori, but by no means is is a dead-ringer.
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GangstaFam said:

Am I the only one who hears a lot of similarities between Kate's voice and Cyndi Lauper's?

I think you can hear some likeness between Kate and Tori, but by no means is is a dead-ringer.


yeah slightly, but I guess their musical styles are way off from each other that people don't think too much about it
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Reply #20 posted 11/28/05 8:24pm

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yeah slightly, but I guess their musical styles are way off from each other that people don't think too much about it

Kate gets that out of control, warbley thing going on that Cyndi does. Tori's voice is so sexy and emotional.
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GangstaFam said:

AnckSuNamun said:

yeah slightly, but I guess their musical styles are way off from each other that people don't think too much about it

Kate gets that out of control, warbley thing going on that Cyndi does. Tori's voice is so sexy and emotional.


That's what I love about their vocals. smile
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Reply #22 posted 11/28/05 8:35pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

GangstaFam said:


Kate gets that out of control, warbley thing going on that Cyndi does. Tori's voice is so sexy and emotional.


That's what I love about their vocals. smile

Me too.
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