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Printableno, but u did say that yes, you are blowing it out of proportioun, because you simply cannot except that only simple make-up, new hairstyle (not talking about plastic surgery and becoming all white) - can change you more than dramatically as shown in that Tootsie picture for example
my statement wasn´t intented to deny he has ever had plastic surgery, but to show how simple make-up can change you. Are you mental? I mean really
How can you compare Prince changing his clothes & hair (which all of us do) to this muthafucka having so many surgeries he's now MUTILATED??? I swear, some of you rabit fans will support ANYTHING an artist does to a fault. It's really scary how many excuses people make for someone who obviously has a warped mind, an addiction to surgery & a desire to be other DAMN I think Prince has "changed" quite a lot. 
Again I am NOT saying Prince has had plastic surgery, cause through all that I still see the same face, but his changes are extreme enough also to make people wonder, and they´don´t - that´s all I was saying. Many celebrities have undergone major changes, but somehow the public is obsessed only with MJ´s. I think the public´s amoung of obsession about MJ´s appearance is adequete to the amount of people exegarating it. The fact that I am not supporting this exegarion is making me look in most peoples eyes blind, fanatical, whatever as if I was denying him having plastic surgery completely. No I am not, I am just saying he hasn´t had as many as some of you point out and am trying to "prove" my points instead of insulting people. It is interesting how you can call all my arguments stupid while not presenting any arguments of your own. So im sick of shit like he was all freaky when white but when he was black he was all "cool". Gross & creepy while pale lookin but hot and fuckable while he was dark skinned. A genius when he was a black kid but went all crazy while he turned into a white woman.
Poor dude couldnt stop what was happening and was always covered in socks, gloves, hats, umbrellas & a ton of cake makeup !thank you for pointing that out! "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: no, but u did say that yes, you are blowing it out of proportioun, because you simply cannot except that only simple make-up, new hairstyle (not talking about plastic surgery and becoming all white) - can change you more than dramatically as shown in that Tootsie picture for example
my statement wasn´t intented to deny he has ever had plastic surgery, but to show how simple make-up can change you. ! thank you for pointing that out![/quote] Hmmm.... [Edited 12/1/05 10:55am] | |
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no, but u did say that yes, you are blowing it out of proportioun, because you simply cannot except that only simple make-up, new hairstyle (not talking about plastic surgery and becoming all white) - can change you more than dramatically as shown in that Tootsie picture for example my statement wasn´t intented to deny he has ever had plastic surgery, but to show how simple make-up can change you. ! thank you for pointing that out! Hmmm....[/quote] ??? your answer and the way you are quoting me doesn´t make sence to me. Can you clarify it? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: I think Prince has "changed" quite a lot.
Again I am NOT saying Prince has had plastic surgery, cause through all that I still see the same face, but his changes are extreme enough also to make people wonder, and they´don´t - that´s all I was saying. Many celebrities have undergone major changes, but somehow the public is obsessed only with MJ´s. I think the public´s amoung of obsession about MJ´s appearance is adequete to the amount of people exegarating it. The fact that I am not supporting this exegarion is making me look in most peoples eyes blind, fanatical, whatever as if I was denying him having plastic surgery completely. No I am not, I am just saying he hasn´t had as many as some of you point out and am trying to "prove" my points instead of insulting people. It is interesting how you can call all my arguments stupid while not presenting any arguments of your own. OMG... when I get home tonight I'll take the time  to post a progression of Princey pics. Hell, MJ looks different from age 12 to 18 & yo ass wanna post pics of P from age 12 to AGE 40  Makes no sense dude. If P did have some kinda surgery the shit was SLIGHT, he grew into his face. There's a progression/slight change in his look from age 12 to 40 but he never looks like a completely different person.
You're trying to make your idol look less extreme than he is but face it - he's the most extreme case of plastic surgery gone wrong/bizarre metamorphosis on the planet... Well, maybe cat lady has him beat on some level  Or that dude w/ the whiskers coming out his face    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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hellomoto said: your trying to make mj fans look crazier then they are. i havent seen on person say hes never had surgery, just that he hasnt had as much as people are trying to say. im a big michael jackson fan, not to the point where im 'brainwashed' and believe everything hes says. i dont believe michael kids are his, and i dont believe hes only had 2 nose jobs, BUT i still dont think hes had 10 nose jobs, eye lifts, cheek implants, chin implants and millions of surgerys like everyone else, i think thats totally overreacting, and i think thats what dags trying to say too. really no one had any idea, you can call people who dont think like you crazy as much as you like, but that doeant make it so, you could be the one wrong about it. personally i thinks he had around 4 nose jobs and a cleft put in his chin, i think the non plastic surgery things like eyebrows, hair, skin colour make more of a difference then alot of people think.
Then I'm guessing you weren't on here when LWMJ aired. MJ fans were crawling out of the woodwork to post innane defenses for their idol. Believe me, every few months or so, we get a new batch of these MJ nuts, and every few months or so they all fuck back off to whichever MJ board they were polluting. No one on here has to work to make the Jacksonites look like lunatics, because they do that enough on their own. I know, let's post 15 topics about Michael Jackson this week. Hey MJ got another picture taken of him. Let's start a new thread about it, proclaiming that he looks like he did in 1986! PLease!
Besides, my original post was discussing more of the knee-jerk reaction from the MJ crowd whenever anyone gives their honest opinion of Mr. Jackson. You'd think that they were talking about your own father or grandmother. I'm the first mammal to wear pants. | |
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Axchi696 said: hellomoto said: your trying to make mj fans look crazier then they are. i havent seen on person say hes never had surgery, just that he hasnt had as much as people are trying to say. im a big michael jackson fan, not to the point where im 'brainwashed' and believe everything hes says. i dont believe michael kids are his, and i dont believe hes only had 2 nose jobs, BUT i still dont think hes had 10 nose jobs, eye lifts, cheek implants, chin implants and millions of surgerys like everyone else, i think thats totally overreacting, and i think thats what dags trying to say too. really no one had any idea, you can call people who dont think like you crazy as much as you like, but that doeant make it so, you could be the one wrong about it. personally i thinks he had around 4 nose jobs and a cleft put in his chin, i think the non plastic surgery things like eyebrows, hair, skin colour make more of a difference then alot of people think.
Then I'm guessing you weren't on here when LWMJ aired. MJ fans were crawling out of the woodwork to post innane defenses for their idol. Believe me, every few months or so, we get a new batch of these MJ nuts, and every few months or so they all fuck back off to whichever MJ board they were polluting. No one on here has to work to make the Jacksonites look like lunatics, because they do that enough on their own. I know, let's post 15 topics about Michael Jackson this week. Hey MJ got another picture taken of him. Let's start a new thread about it, proclaiming that he looks like he did in 1986! PLease!
Besides, my original post was discussing more of the knee-jerk reaction from the MJ crowd whenever anyone gives their honest opinion of Mr. Jackson. You'd think that they were talking about your own father or grandmother. i know there are heaps of mj nuts, but i guess i just dont wanna be included with them. i dont think im to the point that they are, and i dont want people to think just because i stick up for him alot that my opinon cant be taken seriosuly like theres. theres heaps of things i think michael does wrong and things i disagree with but no one posts topics about them for people to see that. thats all it is, i admit im a big fan of michaels but i dont think im one of 'those' kind of fans. and i always think people are lumping me in with that crowd, so i get defensive. | |
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Again I am NOT saying Prince has had plastic surgery, cause through all that I still see the same face, but his changes are extreme enough also to make people wonder, and they´don´t - that´s all I was saying. Many celebrities have undergone major changes, but somehow the public is obsessed only with MJ´s.
I think the public´s amoung of obsession about MJ´s appearance is adequete to the amount of people exegarating it. The fact that I am not supporting this exegarion is making me look in most peoples eyes blind, fanatical, whatever as if I was denying him having plastic surgery completely. No I am not, I am just saying he hasn´t had as many as some of you point out and am trying to "prove" my points instead of insulting people. It is interesting how you can call all my arguments stupid while not presenting any arguments of your own. ok first off, its unfair of people to post kid pics of mj and compair them to adult mj - same goes for prince. i'm 15 now, i looked very little like the 12 year old me. my skin is clearer, i'm taller, my eyebrows are done,i've lost a little weight so my cheekbones stick out more,etc...most people who knew me when i was younger think i look totally different now. the reason people pick on mike is cuz his shit is OBVIOUS. if prince chisles down his nose, added a cleft etc... then trust and believe people would be talking. but he hasnt Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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CalhounSq said: dag said: I think Prince has "changed" quite a lot.
Again I am NOT saying Prince has had plastic surgery, cause through all that I still see the same face, but his changes are extreme enough also to make people wonder, and they´don´t - that´s all I was saying. Many celebrities have undergone major changes, but somehow the public is obsessed only with MJ´s. I think the public´s amoung of obsession about MJ´s appearance is adequete to the amount of people exegarating it. The fact that I am not supporting this exegarion is making me look in most peoples eyes blind, fanatical, whatever as if I was denying him having plastic surgery completely. No I am not, I am just saying he hasn´t had as many as some of you point out and am trying to "prove" my points instead of insulting people. It is interesting how you can call all my arguments stupid while not presenting any arguments of your own. OMG... when I get home tonight I'll take the time to post a progression of Princey pics. Hell, MJ looks different from age 12 to 18 & yo ass wanna post pics of P from age 12 to AGE 40 Makes no sense dude. If P did have some kinda surgery the shit was SLIGHT, he grew into his face. There's a progression/slight change in his look from age 12 to 40 but he never looks like a completely different person.
You're trying to make your idol look less extreme than he is but face it - he's the most extreme case of plastic surgery gone wrong/bizarre metamorphosis on the planet... Well, maybe cat lady has him beat on some level Or that dude w/ the whiskers coming out his face Ditto.... | |
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OMG... when I get home tonight I'll take the time to post a progression of Princey pics. Hell, MJ looks different from age 12 to 18 & yo ass wanna post pics of P from age 12 to AGE 40 Makes no sense dude. If P did have some kinda surgery the shit was SLIGHT, he grew into his face. There's a progression/slight change in his look from age 12 to 40 but he never looks like a completely different person.
You're trying to make your idol look less extreme than he is but face it - he's the most extreme case of plastic surgery gone wrong/bizarre metamorphosis on the planet... Well, maybe cat lady has him beat on some level Or that dude w/ the whiskers coming out his face you´re not reading what I write, so what can I do, guys? Again I am NOT saying Prince has had plastic surgery, cause through all that I still see the same face, but his changes are extreme enough also to make people wonder, and they´don´t - that´s all I was saying. Many celebrities have undergone major changes, but somehow the public is obsessed only with MJ´s.
I think the public´s amoung of obsession about MJ´s appearance is adequete to the amount of people exegarating it. The fact that I am not supporting this exegarion is making me look in most peoples eyes blind, fanatical, whatever as if I was denying him having plastic surgery completely. No I am not, I am just saying he hasn´t had as many as some of you point out and am trying to "prove" my points instead of insulting people. It is interesting how you can call all my arguments stupid while not presenting any arguments of your own. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: OMG... when I get home tonight I'll take the time to post a progression of Princey pics. Hell, MJ looks different from age 12 to 18 & yo ass wanna post pics of P from age 12 to AGE 40 Makes no sense dude. If P did have some kinda surgery the shit was SLIGHT, he grew into his face. There's a progression/slight change in his look from age 12 to 40 but he never looks like a completely different person.
You're trying to make your idol look less extreme than he is but face it - he's the most extreme case of plastic surgery gone wrong/bizarre metamorphosis on the planet... Well, maybe cat lady has him beat on some level Or that dude w/ the whiskers coming out his face you´re not reading what I write, so what can I do, guys? Again I am NOT saying Prince has had plastic surgery, cause through all that I still see the same face, but his changes are extreme enough also to make people wonder, and they´don´t - that´s all I was saying. Many celebrities have undergone major changes, but somehow the public is obsessed only with MJ´s.
I think the public´s amoung of obsession about MJ´s appearance is adequete to the amount of people exegarating it. The fact that I am not supporting this exegarion is making me look in most peoples eyes blind, fanatical, whatever as if I was denying him having plastic surgery completely. No I am not, I am just saying he hasn´t had as many as some of you point out and am trying to "prove" my points instead of insulting people. It is interesting how you can call all my arguments stupid while not presenting any arguments of your own. You can shut the fuck up  DAG, dag!!! 
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dag said: I think Prince has "changed" quite a lot.
Ridiculous, is that the best you can do? P still has the same nose, he's just a beautiful mf.
Again I am NOT saying Prince has had plastic surgery, cause through all that I still see the same face, but his changes are extreme enough also to make people wonder, and they´don´t - that´s all I was saying. Many celebrities have undergone major changes, but somehow the public is obsessed only with MJ´s. I think the public´s amoung of obsession about MJ´s appearance is adequete to the amount of people exegarating it. The fact that I am not supporting this exegarion is making me look in most peoples eyes blind, fanatical, whatever as if I was denying him having plastic surgery completely. No I am not, I am just saying he hasn´t had as many as some of you point out and am trying to "prove" my points instead of insulting people. It is interesting how you can call all my arguments stupid while not presenting any arguments of your own. * | |
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this is the truth according to my friend who has apparently read leaked documents
MJ has had a total of 4 Official Nose Surgeries or what you can class as nose surgeries and in between there have been minor tweaks, like thinning of the nose. and a cleft in this chin, and thats about it due to excessive makeup and general eating habits, thats the reason he's looked quite different on so many occasions he definitely had a nose job between 99 and 2000, thats 100% for certain, and since then, he must have had it corrected, either that, or he took some drugs or some insane shit, cos brother was freaking high in the msg 2001 concerts he looked like he'd been tranquilised no shit! | |
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where are kingofmusic, orgjacko and shygirl?  | |
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CalhounSq said: OdysseyMiles said: We could pick several potential stopping points, starting from the very beginning of it all.
 THANK YOU... he never needed to go under the knife 
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Ridiculous, is that the best you can do? P still has the same nose, he's just a beautiful mf.
Can´t you read, guys????? Stop attacking me, guys. I said I DON´T BELIEVE THAT PRINCE EVER HAD A PLASTIC SURGERY!!! "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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jn2 said: dag said: I think Prince has "changed" quite a lot.
Ridiculous, is that the best you can do? P still has the same nose, he's just a beautiful mf.
Again I am NOT saying Prince has had plastic surgery, cause through all that I still see the same face, but his changes are extreme enough also to make people wonder, and they´don´t - that´s all I was saying. Many celebrities have undergone major changes, but somehow the public is obsessed only with MJ´s. I think the public´s amoung of obsession about MJ´s appearance is adequete to the amount of people exegarating it. The fact that I am not supporting this exegarion is making me look in most peoples eyes blind, fanatical, whatever as if I was denying him having plastic surgery completely. No I am not, I am just saying he hasn´t had as many as some of you point out and am trying to "prove" my points instead of insulting people. It is interesting how you can call all my arguments stupid while not presenting any arguments of your own. * Prince definately has the same nose...he looks pudgy in the face when he was 12 so ofcourse he looks different...thats like how many years difference...we r talkin about MJ changing in a matter of like 1-3 yrs(album 2 album,era 2 era) [Edited 12/4/05 12:45pm] | |
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dag said: Ridiculous, is that the best you can do? P still has the same nose, he's just a beautiful mf.
Can´t you read, guys????? Stop attacking me, guys. I said I DON´T BELIEVE THAT PRINCE EVER HAD A PLASTIC SURGERY!!! | |
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Prince is purrttyyyyy  in those two pics i dont see much of a big difference, change in weight, shape eyebrows, hair & makeup normaly make a person look different. The only changes i see is the nose.
Ha prince same nose? oh great huh? maybe you guys need to check the pics again hmm...? His got work done on the nose and its great. And theres nothing wrong with getting some surgery done.
Anyway check these pics look how good Mike use to look... 
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yeah,I dont think MJ looked that bad in Dangerous or even History-it was just hard 4 ppl 2 digest his skin color drastically changing but when he started messing with his whole face like his lips and forehead and stuff it was like  | |
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dag said: Ridiculous, is that the best you can do? P still has the same nose, he's just a beautiful mf.
Can´t you read, guys????? Stop attacking me, guys. I said I DON´T BELIEVE THAT PRINCE EVER HAD A PLASTIC SURGERY!!! We're not letting you off the hook. We know you're trying to say that Michael hasn't altered his face significantly and you're using Prince's "metamorphosis" as an example. Another thing, what's with these fools with weak arguments bringing in "well Prince....". I don't give a fuck if Prince and MJ were getting matching chin clefts or if Prince wore assless pants 10 years ago while copying James Brown and Jimi Hendrix... stick to the topic. It's not helping your argument.
It doesn't matter how many surgeries MJ has had-- but you have to admit it's been more than 2. The fact is he has mutilated his face. When Bad came out he had crossed the line as far as I was concerned. The face, the hair, the crappy fashion... everything. I was hyped about the album and then I saw the Bad video and I was like, damn what happened? Now like Calhoun said, he's at the point of no return. |
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whodknee said: dag said: Can´t you read, guys????? Stop attacking me, guys. I said I DON´T BELIEVE THAT PRINCE EVER HAD A PLASTIC SURGERY!!! We're not letting you off the hook. We know you're trying to say that Michael hasn't altered his face significantly and you're using Prince's "metamorphosis" as an example. Another thing, what's with these fools with weak arguments bringing in "well Prince....". I don't give a fuck if Prince and MJ were getting matching chin clefts or if Prince wore assless pants 10 years ago while copying James Brown and Jimi Hendrix... stick to the topic. It's not helping your argument.
It doesn't matter how many surgeries MJ has had-- but you have to admit it's been more than 2. The fact is he has mutilated his face. When Bad came out he had crossed the line as far as I was concerned. The face, the hair, the crappy fashion... everything. I was hyped about the album and then I saw the Bad video and I was like, damn what happened? Now like Calhoun said, he's at the point of no return. 
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We're not letting you off the hook. We know you're trying to say that Michael hasn't altered his face significantly and you're using Prince's "metamorphosis" as an example. Another thing, what's with these fools with weak arguments bringing in "well Prince....". I don't give a fuck if Prince and MJ were getting matching chin clefts or if Prince wore assless pants 10 years ago while copying James Brown and Jimi Hendrix... stick to the topic. It's not helping your argument.
Bringin out Prince was meant just to support my arguments, not to compare those two or anything else. Last time I brought up Dustin Hoffman and his transformatins for Tootsie to show what make-up can do. It doesn't matter how many surgeries MJ has had-- but you have to admit it's been more than 2.
it is more than two - two noses (thriller and bad one) and a cleft in a chin. Other, if done, were not major but a corrective ones "I believe. I don´t see more surgeries. Once I even started topic posting many pictures of him from different eras to show he looked the same and I was attacked by some as well. I posted some pictures of him looking THE SAME and yet people called me blind. The face, the hair, the crappy fashion..
The, hair and crappy fashion sholdn´t count into "messing with a face" as well, You´re getting out of topic as well. BTW MJ is not the only one ever having bad hair days or crappy fashions. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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