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Reply #90 posted 11/22/05 10:48pm

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Let it Will Be the mix from KoKo club and GAY

You got a file of that to share? batting eyes

"Get Together" absolutely must be a single. I'll boycot if it's not.
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Reply #91 posted 11/23/05 2:38am

CrozzaUK

I for one get sick of the obsession with chart placings, #1 on TRL, #1 on the Billboard Dance Maxi singles chart, who gives a fuck. Im constantly dumb founded by some of the absolute shit that becomes a hit nowadays. The US top ten is a joke - 10 years ago it was diverse, but from that point it slowly started to degenorate into bland monotonous drivel, as soon as radio play blah blah blah started being taken into account, it was too open to the influence of record companies. This is reflected in the shit state of MTV as well.

The teeny market of each country always controls the top ten, and teens notoriously have shit music taste, I mean here in England fucking Westlife have had 12 # 1s or some shit like that. Its nice to see madonna having shit loads of number ones across the world, so who cares if she doesnt get to # one in the US?

This album has not been made to perform well in the US charts, we'd all be complaining if it was, as it would inevitably be the least madonna sounding album ever, and id more than likely hate it. This album is completely madonna. Yes its commercial, but its also got her printed all over it. As for the comments about there being no commercial songs on it. Ill cut my left arm off if Sorry and Jump arent at least top tens in the UK and the rest of Europe. That said, chart placings dont sell albums, at least not for artists like madonna, as long as the profile of the singles is high, they will sell the album.

Every casual madonna fan ive played the album to loves it, and ive never seen a public reaction to a madonna record like this, even Ray Of Light.
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Reply #92 posted 11/23/05 2:41am

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the irony is that this is not what the us hipster nightclubs want to hear. i think this is a great album for euro ears but its already passe here in the states.


Cos the states is fucking notorious nowdays for its innovative hip dance acts isnt it. confused
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Reply #93 posted 11/23/05 3:50am

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CrozzaUK said:

sosgemini said:

the irony is that this is not what the us hipster nightclubs want to hear. i think this is a great album for euro ears but its already passe here in the states.


Cos the states is fucking notorious nowdays for its innovative hip dance acts isnt it. confused



umm...no. not what im talking about et all!!
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Reply #94 posted 11/23/05 6:39am

Ace

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Ace said:

Look at her upper legs in the Sex era and look at them now. She has packed-on a shitload of muscle in her quads and hams.

But look at that ass!

She jokes in her new documentary about her "big fat Italian thighs".

Those aren't "big fat Italian thighs", they're quads and hams that are being subjected to some very, very heavy resistance training.

Her body was almost perfectly proportioned during the Sex era.
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Reply #95 posted 11/23/05 6:40am

CrozzaUK

sosgemini said:

CrozzaUK said:



Cos the states is fucking notorious nowdays for its innovative hip dance acts isnt it. confused



umm...no. not what im talking about et all!!


Surely to say something is passe, implies its been and gone, is unfashionable etc, so you're basically saying Europe is behind the times when it comes to dance music. As far as Im concerned, while the whole scene was born in US clubs in the 80's, a lot of the most exciting dance music made since, and still being made today, has been European.
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Reply #96 posted 11/23/05 6:41am

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Can someone confirm for me that "Die Another Day" charted Top 10 on the Billboard Pop Singles chart?


Year Title Album US
Dance US
Sales US
Hot100 UK CA JP AU GE CH AT FR Sales worldwide
2002 "Die Another Day" American Life 1 1 8 3 1 6 5 4 4 2 15 1.7m

yes it was #8 on H100
#3 in uk


u can see how all her singles performed
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...hy#Singles

Wasn't that released before AL? Maybe the hardcore bought the single in droves because it looked like the only other place it would be available would be the Bond soundtrack and they weren't interested in that? I would agree with Elton John: it's a horrible song.
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Reply #97 posted 11/23/05 6:44am

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Ace said:


Look at her upper legs in the Sex era and look at them now. She has packed-on a shitload of muscle in her quads and hams.



not really. Sex was shoot after A League of Their Own... she had to drop muscle mass and gain some fat to look like she belonged in that era... she did the same thing for I'm Breathless. By the time she went on the road for The Girlie Show in 93 she was back to the muscled Madonna we know. Rent the Girlie Show



I saw the Girlie Show and - you're right - her thighs were very muscular there. As I recall, they weren't so big in Sex.
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Reply #98 posted 11/23/05 6:58am

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Umm, the only American Idol thing person to go by one name is that Fantasia heffa neutral

carry on... whistling
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #99 posted 11/23/05 7:09am

CrozzaUK

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Maybe the hardcore bought the single in droves because it looked like the only other place it would be available would be the Bond soundtrack and they weren't interested in that? I would agree with Elton John: it's a horrible song.


Its my least favourite madonna single. I love the string sample effect, and i like some of the melodic parts, but it delivers a whole lot less than these two things promise. A decent songwriter could have made a good song around those two things, and the lyrics are ok, but Madonna & Mirwais were so caught up in their own little world of production, that they believed what they were doing was cool. I would suggest it wouldnt be half as bad if her vocal wasnt put through a vocoder for the whole song.
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Reply #100 posted 11/23/05 7:15am

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CrozzaUK said:

sosgemini said:




umm...no. not what im talking about et all!!


Surely to say something is passe, implies its been and gone, is unfashionable etc, so you're basically saying Europe is behind the times when it comes to dance music. As far as Im concerned, while the whole scene was born in US clubs in the 80's, a lot of the most exciting dance music made since, and still being made today, has been European.



umm..no. feel free to remove your patriotic hat. im simply saying that to us hipsters, these sound has come and gone. obviously we have two seperate cultures going on. im not implying that euro tastes are less the american.
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Reply #101 posted 11/23/05 7:38am

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Ace said:

asg said:



Year Title Album US
Dance US
Sales US
Hot100 UK CA JP AU GE CH AT FR Sales worldwide
2002 "Die Another Day" American Life 1 1 8 3 1 6 5 4 4 2 15 1.7m

yes it was #8 on H100
#3 in uk


u can see how all her singles performed
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...hy#Singles

Wasn't that released before AL? Maybe the hardcore bought the single in droves because it looked like the only other place it would be available would be the Bond soundtrack and they weren't interested in that? I would agree with Elton John: it's a horrible song.



yes u can see from the link it was released in 2002 and AL in 2003
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Reply #102 posted 11/23/05 8:16am

DavidEye

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GangstaFam said:

Songs like "Future Lovers" and "I Love New York" are a bit out there musically and lyrically. They could never be US singles.

And she has a healthy batch of tracks dealing with fame/fortune/celebrity - "Let It Will Be", "Like It Or Not" and "How High". Those aren't the types of songs that most consumers are going to appreciate and want to hear.

My sentiments exactly.



Imo,there are only three songs on this album that could not be singles in the US:

"Future Lovers"---too weird for US radio
"Isaac"---too weird for US radio
"How High"---too subdued and boring to be a single


the other songs all have some kind of commercial appeal,to different markets,though.
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Reply #103 posted 11/23/05 8:19am

DavidEye

CrozzaUK said:

sosgemini said:




umm...no. not what im talking about et all!!


Surely to say something is passe, implies its been and gone, is unfashionable etc, so you're basically saying Europe is behind the times when it comes to dance music. As far as Im concerned, while the whole scene was born in US clubs in the 80's, a lot of the most exciting dance music made since, and still being made today, has been European.



It's funny,I live in America but I absolutely despise most of the dance music that's popular here.I can certainly see why Madonna is aiming for a European sound.At this point,I don't even want her to work with American producers anymore.

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Reply #104 posted 11/23/05 8:23am

DavidEye

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U guys really like "push" that much? It's alright ear candy, but as a single? Doubt it. I do agree with "Sorry" and "Get Together"


"Push" has an R&B sound,and a funky beat.It's a very commercial track,just ripe for US radio.
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Reply #105 posted 11/23/05 8:23am

sosgemini

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DavidEye said:

CrozzaUK said:



Surely to say something is passe, implies its been and gone, is unfashionable etc, so you're basically saying Europe is behind the times when it comes to dance music. As far as Im concerned, while the whole scene was born in US clubs in the 80's, a lot of the most exciting dance music made since, and still being made today, has been European.



It's funny,I live in America but I absolutely despise most of the dance music that's popular here.I can certainly see why Madonna is aiming for a European sound.At this point,I don't even want her to work with American producers anymore.

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im not talking your average san jose/oakland bar. im talking "the underground".

lol
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Reply #106 posted 11/23/05 8:29am

MikeMatronik

sosgemini said:

DavidEye said:




It's funny,I live in America but I absolutely despise most of the dance music that's popular here.I can certainly see why Madonna is aiming for a European sound.At this point,I don't even want her to work with American producers anymore.

boxed



im not talking your average san jose/oakland bar. im talking "the underground".

lol


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Reply #107 posted 11/23/05 8:30am

Ace

DavidEye said:

Ace said:


My sentiments exactly.



Imo,there are only three songs on this album that could not be singles in the US:

"Future Lovers"---too weird for US radio
"Isaac"---too weird for US radio
"How High"---too subdued and boring to be a single


the other songs all have some kind of commercial appeal,to different markets,though.

Really? I don't hear any Top 10's on this album. Again, it would be nice to be proven wrong.
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Reply #108 posted 11/23/05 8:34am

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MikeMatronik said:

sosgemini said:




im not talking your average san jose/oakland bar. im talking "the underground".

lol





lol

seriously though, there was a time when madge was a step ahead of the world in finding the coolest new sounds. but she's old now, i know i know. and like prince, you cant always be on the cutting edge.

i would have enjoyed this album so much more if i could hear some fun in her voice. i really would cause thats the madge i enjoy.
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Reply #109 posted 11/23/05 8:46am

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Billboard Top 200 Albums:
- 1 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 349,556

Billboard Hot Digital Songs:
8 1 MADONNA HUNG UP 47440 38 34394 154265

Billboard Hot Single Sales (Commercial Singles):
- 1 MADONNA HUNG UP 7,288 999 28 7,316

Billboard Hot Dance Songs (CD Maxi):
- 1 MADONNA HUNG UP 7,288 999 28


Billboard Electronic Albums:
16 1 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 349,556 999 1,050 350,607

Billboard Internet Albums:
40 1 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 12,383 999 614

Billboard Digital Albums:
- 1 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 32,381 0 32,381
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Reply #110 posted 11/23/05 8:51am

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I saw the Girlie Show and - you're right - her thighs were very muscular there. As I recall, they weren't so big in Sex.


Like i said she dropped muscle and added body fat for her role in A League of Their Own. So she hadn't returned to fighting form when she did Sex. By the time Freddy DeMan got her own the road to lift her spirits she was back in tip top shape.
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Reply #111 posted 11/23/05 8:57am

Ace

ehuffnsd said:

Ace said:


I saw the Girlie Show and - you're right - her thighs were very muscular there. As I recall, they weren't so big in Sex.


Like i said she dropped muscle and added body fat for her role in A League of Their Own. So she hadn't returned to fighting form when she did Sex.

She was incredibly toned in Sex.
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Reply #112 posted 11/23/05 9:00am

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Ace said:

ehuffnsd said:



Like i said she dropped muscle and added body fat for her role in A League of Their Own. So she hadn't returned to fighting form when she did Sex.

She was incredibly toned in Sex.



she was... always has been, but i think she gets to be overly muscled because she's addicted to working out.

If you look at the Virgin era before she started her fitness regime, the Dick Tracy/I'm Breathless Era, A League of Their Own/Sex era and Something to Remember/Evita Era you'll see her more femmine shaped because she cut back the weights to look that way. Than she'd go back to the weights. She has the body type of a women that puts muscle on more like a man's. I wish i could get legs like hers.
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Reply #113 posted 11/23/05 9:03am

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ehuffnsd said:

Ace said:


She was incredibly toned in Sex.



she was... always has been, but i think she gets to be overly muscled because she's addicted to working out.

If you look at the Virgin era before she started her fitness regime, the Dick Tracy/I'm Breathless Era, A League of Their Own/Sex era and Something to Remember/Evita Era you'll see her more femmine shaped because she cut back the weights to look that way. Than she'd go back to the weights. She has the body type of a women that puts muscle on more like a man's. I wish i could get legs like hers.

She was working out hard with weights in the Sex era. I seem to recall she abandoned that around the time she embraced Yoga and that's when her body began getting too muscle-y for me.
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Reply #114 posted 11/23/05 9:09am

Ace

Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout! drool:

(NSFW): http://gallery.sasisa.ru/..._sex51.jpg

That is just the right amount of muscle and she was working hard with weights then.
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Reply #115 posted 11/23/05 9:11am

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Ace said:

ehuffnsd said:




she was... always has been, but i think she gets to be overly muscled because she's addicted to working out.

If you look at the Virgin era before she started her fitness regime, the Dick Tracy/I'm Breathless Era, A League of Their Own/Sex era and Something to Remember/Evita Era you'll see her more femmine shaped because she cut back the weights to look that way. Than she'd go back to the weights. She has the body type of a women that puts muscle on more like a man's. I wish i could get legs like hers.

She was working out hard with weights in the Sex era. I seem to recall she abandoned that around the time she embraced Yoga and that's when her body began getting too muscle-y for me.


she still does today... not as much as before. plus ashantaga yoga is very phyiscal.

i dunno i tend to disagree with you. she has since True Blue had been very well muscled. just when she does period roles she has to drop muscle and add body fat to look like she belongs in that era. Sex was her in transtion from the 40 era fit look to her everyday life fit.
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Reply #116 posted 11/23/05 9:19am

DavidEye

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DavidEye said:




Imo,there are only three songs on this album that could not be singles in the US:

"Future Lovers"---too weird for US radio
"Isaac"---too weird for US radio
"How High"---too subdued and boring to be a single


the other songs all have some kind of commercial appeal,to different markets,though.

Really? I don't hear any Top 10's on this album. Again, it would be nice to be proven wrong.



It's really hard to predict what will go Top 10 these days.Honestly,I didn't even expect "Hung Up" to do as well as it did.I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Reply #117 posted 11/23/05 9:19am

Ace

ehuffnsd said:

Ace said:


She was working out hard with weights in the Sex era. I seem to recall she abandoned that around the time she embraced Yoga and that's when her body began getting too muscle-y for me.


she still does today... not as much as before. plus ashantaga yoga is very phyiscal.

i dunno i tend to disagree with you. she has since True Blue had been very well muscled. just when she does period roles she has to drop muscle and add body fat to look like she belongs in that era. Sex was her in transtion from the 40 era fit look to her everyday life fit.

As far as I am aware, she only does Pilates and Yoga these days (I remember her announcing on Rosie O'Donnell's show years ago that she'd abandoned weight training).

She may have been picking-up muscle in the True Blue days, but it wasn't until the Like a Prayer era that she began stripping off body fat and that's what made her body hot. This climaxed in the Erotica/Bedtime Stories era.

Again, this is the peak, right here: (NSFW) http://gallery.sasisa.ru/..._sex51.jpg
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Reply #118 posted 11/23/05 9:25am

DavidEye

ehuffnsd said:

Billboard Top 200 Albums:
- 1 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 349,556

Billboard Hot Digital Songs:
8 1 MADONNA HUNG UP 47440 38 34394 154265

Billboard Hot Single Sales (Commercial Singles):
- 1 MADONNA HUNG UP 7,288 999 28 7,316

Billboard Hot Dance Songs (CD Maxi):
- 1 MADONNA HUNG UP 7,288 999 28


Billboard Electronic Albums:
16 1 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 349,556 999 1,050 350,607

Billboard Internet Albums:
40 1 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 12,383 999 614

Billboard Digital Albums:
- 1 MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR 32,381 0 32,381




I went out yesterday and bought the "Hung Up" maxi and the new issue of Rolling Stone with Maddy on the cover lol


The maxi contains five remixes and the radio edit.Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet.
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Reply #119 posted 11/23/05 9:40am

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New Article on Billboard's main page:

Madonna Dances Straight To No. 1

November 23, 2005, 11:45 AM ET

Katie Hasty, N.Y.

For the sixth time in her career, Madonna finds herself with an album in the No. 1 position on The Billboard 200. Her latest, "Confessions on a Dance Floor" (Warner Bros.), sold nearly 350,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan, to bow on top of the chart.

"Confessions" is Madonna's third album in a row to top the chart, with "Music" and "American Life" preceding it. The new disc's first single "Hung Up" works its way into the top 10 on the Billboard Hot 100 this week.



Hung Up is a top ten single YAY i'll find the exact number later.
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