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PrintableAce said: I have a very pop ear and I don't hear a single. But, again, I'd love to be proven wrong. You'll see.  | |
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Ace said: GangstaFam said: Yes, but songs like "Hung Up", "Sorry", "Push", "Jump" and "Get Together" have hit written all over them. I think those 5 songs seem like the most likely batch of hits she's had on one album since at least "Bedtime Stories" and probably as far back as "Like a Prayer". Like I said, I know dance isn't a thriving genre in the pop market. But I think those 5 songs are so poppy, hook-heavy and easy to get into, that I'll be shocked if they don't hit big. I have a very pop ear and I don't hear a single. But, again, I'd love to be proven wrong. i trust Madonna's pop ear more than yours though. She has made her living off of it for 23 years. Plus Die Another Day not a pop song but a top 10 hit. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Ace said: ehuffnsd said: she's been pushing her artistic legacy at least since Blonde Ambition. But she was making very pop records back then. Well, immediately following Blonde Ambition came "Justify My Love" and then "Erotica" - about the least pop phase of her entire career. | |
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I have no idea what you guys are talking about but tell me how many 47 year old women even manage to crack the American billboard chart in a hip hop infested business.
Please, give credit where credit is due. And HU is bound to crack the top 10 this week, as it's been at the top of the itunes chart all week. Radio is hardly supporting the effort, it's the work of the sales that is pushing this one up the chart. Madonna has selling power that others don't have, and therefore you will most likely see most of her singles on this project in the top ten thanks to itunes. | |
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Ace said: GangstaFam said: Yes, but songs like "Hung Up", "Sorry", "Push", "Jump" and "Get Together" have hit written all over them. I think those 5 songs seem like the most likely batch of hits she's had on one album since at least "Bedtime Stories" and probably as far back as "Like a Prayer". Like I said, I know dance isn't a thriving genre in the pop market. But I think those 5 songs are so poppy, hook-heavy and easy to get into, that I'll be shocked if they don't hit big. I have a very pop ear and I don't hear a single. But, again, I'd love to be proven wrong. you will | |
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GangstaFam said: Ace said: Personally, I think her quads are way over-developed. Her body was slammin' in the Sex/"Human Nature" days.
So picky! Too much muscle there. Too masculine-looking for my tastes. | |
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jayaredee said: I have no idea what you guys are talking about but tell me how many 47 year old women even manage to crack the American billboard chart in a hip hop infested business.
Please, give credit where credit is due. And HU is bound to crack the top 10 this week, as it's been at the top of the itunes chart all week. Radio is hardly supporting the effort, it's the work of the sales that is pushing this one up the chart. Madonna has selling power that others don't have, and therefore you will most likely see most of her singles on this project in the top ten thanks to itunes. And in the end, isn't that what counts? Sales should be the driving force behind charts. It says what folks actually care about as opposed to what radio and television is cramming down our throats. I for one am really pleased with the effect iTunes is having on the industry. Since singles are practically a dead format, digital downloads are the next best thing. And I'm glad they're counting for something. | |
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Im not one to go madonna bashing, but i just dont get the hype with this cd. When i heard it was gonna be disco, with Can u Feel It basslines and stuff i literally couldnt wait. "Sorry", yeah im sorry too madge coz that aint a hit. "I love New York", oh my god worst track ever for madonna. hung up n get together are the only songs worth the effort. | |
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Ace said: Too much muscle there. Too masculine-looking for my tastes.
I think she's yummy.  | |
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FunkyBrotha said: Im not one to go madonna bashing, but i just dont get the hype with this cd. When i heard it was gonna be disco, with Can u Feel It basslines and stuff i literally couldnt wait. "Sorry", yeah im sorry too madge coz that aint a hit. "I love New York", oh my god worst track ever for madonna. hung up n get together are the only songs worth the effort.
Yeah well she's #1 so obviously many disagree with you. Too bad. | |
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ehuffnsd said: i trust Madonna's pop ear more than yours though. She has made her living off of it for 23 years.
Ah, but it failed her on AL, did it not? Some artists reach a point where they become out-of-touch with the record-buying public and/or their lyrical concerns become too complex for the majority of that demographic (which is heavily weighted with very young people). Plus Die Another Day not a pop song but a top 10 hit.
Did that really go Top 10 on Billboard? If it did, I am shocked and can only chalk it up to the tie-in with the Bond flick. But more power to her. | |
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Ace said: GangstaFam said: So picky! Too much muscle there. Too masculine-looking for my tastes. Check out the Girlie Show espically at the end of Erotica before Fever. Her legs have been big for years. she has always been musclar well at least since she ended the Virgin Tour You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Ace said: ehuffnsd said: i trust Madonna's pop ear more than yours though. She has made her living off of it for 23 years.
Ah, but it failed her on AL, did it not? Some artists reach a point where they become out-of-touch with the record-buying public and/or their lyrical concerns become too complex for the majority of that demographic (which is heavily weighted with very young people). Plus Die Another Day not a pop song but a top 10 hit.
Did that really go Top 10 on Billboard? If it did, I am shocked and can only chalk it up to the tie-in with the Bond flick. But more power to her. it failed because of Lack of promotion. Madonna was no where to be seen after American Life came out America abdonded her. She went to Europe and reigned in the charts. No one Noticed her until the VMA's and than she rolled out RIT to show she is still the standard You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Ace said: Too much muscle there. Too masculine-looking for my tastes. Check out the Girlie Show espically at the end of Erotica before Fever. Her legs have been big for years. she has always been musclar well at least since she ended the Virgin Tour Look at her upper legs in the Sex era and look at them now. She has packed-on a shitload of muscle in her quads and hams. | |
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Can someone confirm for me that "Die Another Day" charted Top 10 on the Billboard Pop Singles chart? | |
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Ace said: Look at her upper legs in the Sex era and look at them now. She has packed-on a shitload of muscle in her quads and hams.
But look at that ass! She jokes in her new documentary about her "big fat Italian thighs". | |
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Ace said: Can someone confirm for me that "Die Another Day" charted Top 10 on the Billboard Pop Singles chart?
Year Title Album US Dance US Sales US Hot100 UK CA JP AU GE CH AT FR Sales worldwide 2002 "Die Another Day" American Life 1 1 8 3 1 6 5 4 4 2 15 1.7m yes it was #8 on H100 #3 in uk u can see how all her singles performed http://en.wikipedia.org/w...hy#Singles |
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Ace said: Can someone confirm for me that "Die Another Day" charted Top 10 on the Billboard Pop Singles chart?
Yeah, it was the only top 10 from that album. | |
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Ace said: ehuffnsd said: Check out the Girlie Show espically at the end of Erotica before Fever. Her legs have been big for years. she has always been musclar well at least since she ended the Virgin Tour Look at her upper legs in the Sex era and look at them now. She has packed-on a shitload of muscle in her quads and hams. not really. Sex was shoot after A League of Their Own... she had to drop muscle mass and gain some fat to look like she belonged in that era... she did the same thing for I'm Breathless. By the time she went on the road for The Girlie Show in 93 she was back to the muscled Madonna we know. Rent the Girlie Show 
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Ace said: GangstaFam said: ouch. I'm sorry, but (to quote an old Rolling Stones song) "it is a game for youth". If she wants to impress dance music critics and people who spend a lot of time in hipster nightclubs, this is the record to make. If she wants to have a mainstream hit, I don't think this is the way to go about it. But, who knows? Maybe she's more concerned with her artistic legacy these days.  the irony is that this is not what the us hipster nightclubs want to hear. i think this is a great album for euro ears but its already passe here in the states. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Ace said: I'm sorry, but (to quote an old Rolling Stones song) "it is a game for youth". If she wants to impress dance music critics and people who spend a lot of time in hipster nightclubs, this is the record to make. If she wants to have a mainstream hit, I don't think this is the way to go about it. But, who knows? Maybe she's more concerned with her artistic legacy these days. the irony is that this is not what the us hipster nightclubs want to hear. i think this is a great album for euro ears but its already passe here in the states. That's true. In hipster nightclubs, it's all about LCD Soundsystem, Interpol and bands like that. | |
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Actually, this was a pretty impressive first week of album sales for Madonna, especially considering that she is an older artist, hip-hop has been ruling the charts for quite some time, and plus the fact that this is a very Euro-sounding dance record. Eurodance may have its place in the big dance clubs here in the USA (mostly on the coasts), but it has such a weak following elsewhere in the States. Nevertheless, Madonna probably sold a lot of units on her name and reputation alone, which was well deserved, and if it gets more Americans to listen to Eurodance music, then its good.
As for whether there are any poppy, radio-friendly tracks on this album, remember that Ray Of Light didn't exactly have any radio-friendly songs on the album, yet it was one of her biggest selling albums ever. Actually, her first single from that album, "Frozen," was considered to be much darker then any music she had done up to that point.  | |
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728huey said: Actually, this was a pretty impressive first week of album sales for Madonna, especially considering that she is an older artist, hip-hop has been ruling the charts for quite some time, and plus the fact that this is a very Euro-sounding dance record. Eurodance may have its place in the big dance clubs here in the USA (mostly on the coasts), but it has such a weak following elsewhere in the States. Nevertheless, Madonna probably sold a lot of units on her name and reputation alone, which was well deserved, and if it gets more Americans to listen to Eurodance music, then its good.
As for whether there are any poppy, radio-friendly tracks on this album, remember that Ray Of Light didn't exactly have any radio-friendly songs on the album, yet it was one of her biggest selling albums ever. Actually, her first single from that album, "Frozen," was considered to be much darker then any music she had done up to that point.  very well put!!  | |
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728huey said: Actually, this was a pretty impressive first week of album sales for Madonna, especially considering that she is an older artist, hip-hop has been ruling the charts for quite some time, and plus the fact that this is a very Euro-sounding dance record. Eurodance may have its place in the big dance clubs here in the USA (mostly on the coasts), but it has such a weak following elsewhere in the States. Nevertheless, Madonna probably sold a lot of units on her name and reputation alone, which was well deserved, and if it gets more Americans to listen to Eurodance music, then its good.
As for whether there are any poppy, radio-friendly tracks on this album, remember that Ray Of Light didn't exactly have any radio-friendly songs on the album, yet it was one of her biggest selling albums ever. Actually, her first single from that album, "Frozen," was considered to be much darker then any music she had done up to that point. id' agree with your comments. i guess only time will tell now. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: the irony is that this is not what the us hipster nightclubs want to hear. i think this is a great album for euro ears but its already passe here in the states.
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GangstaFam said: Yes, but songs like "Hung Up", "Sorry", "Push", "Jump" and "Get Together" have hit written all over them. I think those 5 songs seem like the most likely batch of hits she's had on one album since at least "Bedtime Stories" and probably as far back as "Like a Prayer". I think "Sorry", especially, is a major hit in the making. It may not be as 'immediately catchy' as "Hung Up" but I think it has a longer burn life. | |
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U guys really like "push" that much? It's alright ear candy, but as a single? Doubt it. I do agree with "Sorry" and "Get Together" | |
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newskin69 said: U guys really like "push" that much? It's alright ear candy, but as a single? Doubt it. I do agree with "Sorry" and "Get Together"
I'm so-so on it. But I do think it would make a good single. | |
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TRON said: newskin69 said: U guys really like "push" that much? It's alright ear candy, but as a single? Doubt it. I do agree with "Sorry" and "Get Together"
I'm so-so on it. But I do think it would make a good single. i don't want it released as a single Sorry Jump a rocked out I Love New York Let it Will Be the mix from KoKo club and GAY You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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