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Reply #60 posted 11/23/05 12:13pm

Universaluv

Been to a few shows where I have personally accounted for 50% of the black attendees. Other than a few stares never had any problem.
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Reply #61 posted 11/23/05 12:48pm

brothaluv

Generally speaking, black fans of Prince are more receptive to different types of music. In many ways, Prince was the bridge that enabled me to appreciate other styles and genres of music. Oh and btw, I almost feel obligated to buy a U2 album. Bono has been one of the greatest egalitarians to ever come out of popular music.
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Reply #62 posted 11/23/05 4:24pm

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No one has ever peer presurred me for the music i like, but i think things are a bit different in the UK. the only artist i get chastised for is my love for Prince! from all my black and white friends. if i was into artists like coldplay or 50 cents(who are shit!) it would be more trendier to like. they are all deluded by the media!
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Reply #63 posted 11/23/05 8:30pm

pkidwell

In response to the security guard comment, I have always wondered about that too and sometimes it is funny to see the look on the black guys face when people start moshing and he hates the music and the crowd. I guess a perfect person for that kind of suck-ass job. And I just saw one black guy at a Ween concert the other day. He was drunk off his ass and dressed like a frat-guy. And a black chic I dated recently had some white stuff on her Ipod but she acted whiter than most white people I know and I found that kind of odd, living in D.C. and all. It's not about color at all though, just about where you grew up, who you grew up around, what your parents are like, etc. I mean if I called my ex-girlfriend an Oreo, she would have gotten so mad. But I guess it is okay to call a white dude a wigger, isn't it? I mean, most white people I knew in high school who acted black were just going through a phase. Rarely does one ever see a black guy trying to be white, or do they? I have never seen one. Okay I'm rambling.
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Reply #64 posted 11/23/05 11:58pm

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jjhunsecker said:

meow85 said:

This being a Prince site I don't think there's going to be a big variety of responses to a topic like this. Hard to find musically closed-minded folks on a site devoted to a guy who attracts fans of all races, religions, and sexual orientations.


This is SO true. Prince has the widest variety of people in his audiences. When I saw him at Madison Square Garden in 7/04, there was a 50-somethingBlack couple next to me, a 20-ish White guy with very long hair and his date in front of me, and a bunch of very obviously gay guys behind me. Multi-culturalism at it's best

As it should be. smile

People need to feel free to listen to whateverthefuck they feel like listening to. Good is good, regardless of style. Colour be damned.

Race is at most a side story to music, not the story.
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Reply #65 posted 11/24/05 5:24am

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TonyVanDam said:

I know of some black people that are undercover fans of these artists:





Rick James was heavy into the KISS-thang .

Larry Blackmon ( Cameo ) thought Kenny had a funky kinda approach of singing .
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Reply #66 posted 11/24/05 7:05am

brothaluv

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sextonseven said:



Their past is a little shady. That's another reason I avoided the Type O show at Lamour's in Brooklyn.



Shady indeed! I would stay away rom bands like that if I were you. Pantera is another band that apparently were racist or maybe I should just say Phil!


And therein lies the reason why most blacks avoid rock music and rock concerts in particular. There's ever the fear of an incident. History has already made us paranoid. Consequently, all it takes is one altercation to justify avoiding the whole scene. Blacks haven't been into the Rolling Stones since Altamonte. Even though Jagger is probably one of the most liberal guys on earth. Typo, Pantera doesn't help matters either. And if Prussian Blue ever grows up, forget about it!

I love rock though. I was a big fan of the Black Rock Coalition back in the day. Living Colour, Darius Rucker of Hootie, Lenny Kravitz and I'm hoping the cat who tried out for INXS does something soon...
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Reply #67 posted 11/24/05 5:45pm

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TonyVanDam said:

I know of some black people that are undercover fans of these artists:





shoo...i love kenny rogers...neva really listened to kiss...but if they got some nice songs..i'll give it a listen
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Reply #68 posted 11/25/05 8:54am

CreamyThighs

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Well, I felt like the only Black person in my section @ the U2 show last week lol But I wasn't trippin'... it felt weird for about a minute, then it was like headbang

I was the only black person @ The Paul McCartney concert three years ago lol

I'm surprised U2 doesn't have more black fans, cuz they've got a lot of soul.
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Reply #69 posted 11/26/05 7:36am

brothaluv

CreamyThighs said:

CalhounSq said:

Well, I felt like the only Black person in my section @ the U2 show last week lol But I wasn't trippin'... it felt weird for about a minute, then it was like headbang

I was the only black person @ The Paul McCartney concert three years ago lol

I'm surprised U2 doesn't have more black fans, cuz they've got a lot of soul.


I'm baffled too. U2 and Bono in particular has probably done more for blacks than any other band! Then there's the song Pride and other serious jams that are all but irresistible. Jim Crow and music shouldn't mix....
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Reply #70 posted 11/26/05 1:48pm

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I always wonder what the Black security guards at rock venues are thinking. I wonder if they ever think the music is any good?

That reminds me of an episode of The Osbournes.
An older black gentleman (not sure if he was part of security or what) was sitting on the couch with Ozzy watching an episode of Leno/Letterman he'd just taped.

The gentleman maintained a patronizing smile but it was as if his "thought bubble" was saying, " hmm WTF!"


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Reply #71 posted 11/26/05 3:08pm

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"If You and Your Folks dug me and my folks like me and my folks dig you and your folks...."

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Reply #72 posted 11/26/05 4:16pm

Stymie

I've been to a lot of shows where there aren't a lot of black people. Never bothers me. I dig what I dig. I hate folks have to label something white or black. I dig Bootsy and George Clinton but I also dig Bowie and NIN. Shit, it's all music.
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Reply #73 posted 11/26/05 8:40pm

ThePunisher

Most black people like a wide variety of music. Except when it comes to Country. I'm serious. If you ever want to clear a bar full of people of color who won't leave after last call, Put on a Willie Nelson record. (I'm a black man just to let you all know). I suppose it's a very lonely bridge for black folks who like Country music.
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Reply #74 posted 11/26/05 9:35pm

coolcat

The media is a huge part of the problem IMO... So much of the comedy I see on TV promotes stereotypes especially of African-Americans... When I was a kid it wouldn't have even occured to me that a black lead guitar player was supposed to be a "strange" thing... Now I've seen that joke so many times on TV, it gets ingrained in your consciousness. Shows like Fresh Prince of Bel Air (Carlton liking Barry Manilow and being too "white"...) don't help matters much either IMO... I mean some black kid watching that is going to think... ok so this is the type of music I'm "supposed" to listen to... I'm "supposed" to listen to hip-hop even if I don't like it...etc...
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Reply #75 posted 11/26/05 9:55pm

WillieDynamite

Music doesn't have a color (and I don't mean soulchild). I've never limited my musical taste and do have both Bon jovi and U2 Playlist on my Ipod. If the music is good and hopefully sayin' something i'm usually into it. What's wrong with liking Tracey Chapman and Me'Shell NdegeOcello as well as Linkin Park and 50 Cent? The first concert I got into was Madonna (Who's that Girl) at 17, and went solo to boot. Music taste is personal and shouldn't be judged. Live and let live.
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Reply #76 posted 11/27/05 10:05am

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ThePunisher said:

Most black people like a wide variety of music. Except when it comes to Country. I'm serious. If you ever want to clear a bar full of people of color who won't leave after last call, Put on a Willie Nelson record. (I'm a black man just to let you all know). I suppose it's a very lonely bridge for black folks who like Country music.


I've read that 4% of people that listen to country music radio are black. Maybe down south (or out west), black and country aren't so bad a mix after all.

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Reply #77 posted 11/27/05 10:07am

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ThePunisher said:

Most black people like a wide variety of music. Except when it comes to Country. I'm serious. If you ever want to clear a bar full of people of color who won't leave after last call, Put on a Willie Nelson record. (I'm a black man just to let you all know). I suppose it's a very lonely bridge for black folks who like Country music.


Believe it or not, there are quite a few black people who like country music. They're just not vocal about it for obvious reasons. This holds particularly true when you're talking neo-country like Kenny Chesney. This guy did a great job of covering Mellencamp's HURT SO GOOD. And you can't tell me you didnt like Garth Brooks' song FRIENDS IN LOW PLACES? Thats a great drinking song. I'm not a big country fan, but I know blacks who are. On a different note, anybody know who King's X is? It's a rock group with a black lead singer....great group.
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Reply #78 posted 11/27/05 10:09am

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OdysseyMiles said:

I love the Beach Boys.


I'll always remember how in the movie 'Soul Man' the main character was almost outed as being secretly white because he had a lot of Beach Boys records.
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Reply #79 posted 11/27/05 10:32am

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ThePunisher said:

Most black people like a wide variety of music. Except when it comes to Country. I'm serious. If you ever want to clear a bar full of people of color who won't leave after last call, Put on a Willie Nelson record. (I'm a black man just to let you all know). I suppose it's a very lonely bridge for black folks who like Country music.

I don't have a problem with the Country Music musicians...

Bob Wills
Lester Flatt & Earl Scruggs
Chet Atkins
DeFord Bailey
Roy Clark
Ricky Skaggs
Vince Gill


...These folks can play. guitar

It's when the singing starts is where things get a bit dicey. confused


Vince Gill is the only Country artist (I can think of at the moment) whose voice appeals to me.


Btw, Willie Nelson has written some great songs.


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Reply #80 posted 11/27/05 5:04pm

ThePunisher

Just to make things clear, I don't have a problem with Country Music. Even though it's not my cup of tea, I wouldn't tell somebody to Turn that $#!t off, Like I saw someone do when a guy changed the station to Country Western at my job. I've always thought that Lionel Richie has some country in him. "Deep River Woman" "Oh No" and "My Love" all have that Country soul to them. When are we gonna have the next Charley Pride come out?
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Reply #81 posted 11/27/05 5:45pm

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one of the best concerts i went to in the last 10 years was an 80's explosion show in DC--culture club, human league, howard jones and somebody else i can't remember...but there were like 20,000 people there at this outdoors show, and i swear me and my lady friend were the only black folks there--which is sad, because i know sooooo many black folks that was on all these acts' jock back in the 80's.

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They had that same show at radio-city music hall...it was excellent. Me and my cousin were pretty much the only blacks in the audience as well and I was shocked because I know black kids back in the day liked these acts or I guess where I grew up they did. It seems like black people in my age group forgot how to have a good time and only listen smooth jazz or 50 cent. I hate hate hate smooth jazz.
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Reply #82 posted 11/27/05 5:47pm

MistyCotton

Is that the same Richard Roeper who reviews the movies?
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Reply #83 posted 11/27/05 5:50pm

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ThePunisher said:

Just to make things clear, I don't have a problem with Country Music. Even though it's not my cup of tea, I wouldn't tell somebody to Turn that $#!t off, Like I saw someone do when a guy changed the station to Country Western at my job. I've always thought that Lionel Richie has some country in him. "Deep River Woman" "Oh No" and "My Love" all have that Country soul to them. When are we gonna have the next Charley Pride come out?

Add Easy to the list. Kenny Rogers certainly reaped the benefits of Lionel's country leanings (Lady).

Regarding where the next "Charlie Pride" is coming from, your guess is as good as mine.

The closest i've heard of was Cleve Francis who had some records out a few years ago.
Just happen to see him in a video and notice that he was black.

Other than that it's...



...Cowboy Troy the rapper from Big & Rich.


This is something i've got on my list of things to get...



...From Where I Stand: The Black Experience in Country Music


It's not real high up on the list, but it's there.


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Reply #84 posted 11/27/05 5:52pm

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MistyCotton said:

Is that the same Richard Roeper who reviews the movies?

One and the same.


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Reply #85 posted 11/27/05 6:28pm

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theAudience said:

MistyCotton said:

Is that the same Richard Roeper who reviews the movies?

One and the same.


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Reply #86 posted 11/27/05 7:55pm

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brothaluv said:

ThePunisher said:

Most black people like a wide variety of music. Except when it comes to Country. I'm serious. If you ever want to clear a bar full of people of color who won't leave after last call, Put on a Willie Nelson record. (I'm a black man just to let you all know). I suppose it's a very lonely bridge for black folks who like Country music.


Believe it or not, there are quite a few black people who like country music. They're just not vocal about it for obvious reasons. This holds particularly true when you're talking neo-country like Kenny Chesney. This guy did a great job of covering Mellencamp's HURT SO GOOD. And you can't tell me you didnt like Garth Brooks' song FRIENDS IN LOW PLACES? Thats a great drinking song. I'm not a big country fan, but I know blacks who are. On a different note, anybody know who King's X is? It's a rock group with a black lead singer....great group.


And here's something "weird" : I used to live in a mainly Caribean neighborhood in NY. The majority of people in the area were first or second generation Jamaicans, Barbadians, and Haitians. Many times in the area I'd use a "gypsy" (illegal) cab services. Usually the drivers were men from the area who drove around picking up passengers to earn some extra money when they weren't at their main job. I would say almost half the times I got into one of these cabs, the drivers were playing Country music ! Somehow, there developed
a not insubstantial Caribbean audience for C&W music
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Reply #87 posted 11/28/05 9:21am

LoveAlive

meow85 said:

This being a Prince site I don't think there's going to be a big variety of responses to a topic like this. Hard to find musically closed-minded folks on a site devoted to a guy who attracts fans of all races, religions, and sexual orientations.


Well its funny you say this. I'm black and I think that a lot of black people can REALLY relate to this topic. I can remember being a Prince fan in the early 90's and BLACK PEOPLE have even said "only white people like Prince." Its so frustrating to hear fellow Blacks be so closed minded to forms of music that WE CREATED!
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Reply #88 posted 11/28/05 9:34am

LoveAlive

brothaluv said:

Generally speaking, black fans of Prince are more receptive to different types of music. In many ways, Prince was the bridge that enabled me to appreciate other styles and genres of music. Oh and btw, I almost feel obligated to buy a U2 album. Bono has been one of the greatest egalitarians to ever come out of popular music.


I agree with the comment that Prince was the bridge for blacks. I will NEVER forget the first time I bought the DIRTY MIND album and heard "When You Were Mine." It was like in 1991. I was like FINALLY I got someone thats black and like rock music like me....
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Reply #89 posted 11/28/05 11:13am

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LoveAlive said:

meow85 said:

This being a Prince site I don't think there's going to be a big variety of responses to a topic like this. Hard to find musically closed-minded folks on a site devoted to a guy who attracts fans of all races, religions, and sexual orientations.


Well its funny you say this. I'm black and I think that a lot of black people can REALLY relate to this topic. I can remember being a Prince fan in the early 90's and BLACK PEOPLE have even said "only white people like Prince." Its so frustrating to hear fellow Blacks be so closed minded to forms of music that WE CREATED!



....and THAT my friend are the SAME kind of people (in general) that thinks sounding "black" translate as sounding "ghetto" or "gangsta".

In other words, 50 Cent sounds more "black" than Prince.

This kind of thinking is so STUPID!!!!
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