Besides white folks?

well, i have to admit, i'm white. and i don't listen to blues.

oh wait, that didn't prove your point very well, did it?

I'm Black and I do listen to the Blues.
Always have, always will.

I guess I don't prove your point either.


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is jimi considered blues? or just blues-influenced?

what about nirvana? kurt was way into leadbelly, you know.

i like blues guitar. sometimes "real" blues can get a little samey for my tastes...i think it gets to be more appealing for other musicians than it does for laypeople who just dig on music in general...or something like that, i dunno.

i saw a buddy guy concert on tv once that kinda kicked my butt.

Just the ol' school brothers who know the real deal.

i've got a step brother who's in his early 20's now and has been loving the blues since he was about 12 years old. He started playing the harmonica and took on the stage name 'Aberdeen Slim' and had some really cool experiences with some of the old masters. i guess it was weird to see a young black male loving the blues with his enthusiasm, so they would go out of their way to show him some love, like giving him backstage access to the chicago blues festival, letting him onstage and play with some of the bands. People like Pinetop Perkins and Herbert Sumlin befriend and encouraged him, Pinetop even gave him a guitar that belonged to Muddy Waters, which he refused to give to some museum or Hard rock cafe (i forget how the story went). Anyways, Aberdeen even started speaking with an accent, though he was raised in the midwest His future was so bright he needed to wear sunglasses, but then his mom forced him into job core and to get his GED and he abandoned both in pursuit of some girl (and Canadian mist) he met in the core had a baby and now he's back home with his momma. i sure he still loves the blues, but only as a spectator.

i'm sure you guys didn't need to know all of that and he'd be pissed if he read this here (or maybe not) i just find it a heartbreaking story, tho i suppose that's what the blues is all about.

i think my love for the blues is pretty obvious.

i remember seeing an Onion headline "House of Blues really House of Whites"

Seriously, i think hip hop is the new blues. i was gonna start a thread about this, but i really don't want to write a 2 hour essay on it and only get 1 reply and 6 views, i've got better things to do.

sinisterpentatonic said:

i think hip hop started out as the new blues, but took a detour and got lost. even a lot of the so-called "smart" hip-hop i've heard sounds lost to me these days, compared to stuff like PE and even stuff like de la and digable planets. just my opinion, though...

Anxiety said:

A great deal of Hendrix material is very blues based.

His arrangement of Hey Joe right out of the box.
Listen to the versions by The Byrds, The Leaves or Love to see what I mean.
Theirs was the standard hippie bar band version of the 60s.

Voodoo Chile is another classic example with Voodoo Child (Slight Return) being Blues given an LSD/Steroid cocktail.


Regarding Buddy Guy, i'll keep saying this ad nauseum...



...This is BUDDY GUY! is the shit!


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sinisterpentatonic said:

1 of the replies will be mine.


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Anxiety said:

True, the state of hip hop may be a joke, but if you listen close enough you'll hear the blues in a lot of it. what's ironic is that the more it crosses over the sillier it gets. Go figure. of course there's always the underground soldiers, but the majority of the artists today are trying to drop that multi-platinum album and sacrificing it's intergrity with their efforts. As with anything else, the pursuit of riches has made it impure.



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theAudience said:

That's all the motivation i need.

Maybe, i should orgnote it to you.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Great story.

Nothing cooler than an Old-School Blues Man...



... Buddy Guy & Junior Wells.


I saw these two at The Palomino in L.A. dressed in felt feathered hats, suits and maxi-coats in the middle of summer!
These fashions were straight out of the Eleganza Catalogue (Let's see how many Old-Schoolers remember that fashion nightmare ).


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sinisterpentatonic said:

are you talking more on the lyrical side or on the musical side, or a bit of both?

Anxiety said:

a bit of both, though i know that most of the hip-hop these days is so digitized that it's nearly impossible to hear the blues in the music. To my surprise, people like Jay-Z, Nas and Mos Def have tracks on their latest albums where the music is heavily blues influenced.


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theAudience said:

Dude, my dad still dresses like that.




and another fuckin edit!
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sinisterpentatonic said:

Bring it.


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When I lived in Gainesville Fla, my roommate and I sort of adopted a Blues man named...



...Johnny Hines


Got him off of his daily diet of...



..."Morgan Davis" (his term), and got him on some decent food and vitamins. For a while anyway.

There's was even a musical documentary done (including a concert I did with him at UofF) on him by the local PBS affiliate.

Learn about playing Blues in what he called "Vasapool" (open E) tuning from him.

Great guy.


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Wow, interesting story tA! do you have any recordings with him? i'll have to investigate this "vassapool" tuning.

like in all the music i listen 2,i always gravitate toward the guys that don't always get listed.... and 2 of my discoveries became my favorites in albert collins and chris thomas king. 4 those that dont know chris thomas was in "ray" as lowell fulson and "o, brother where art thou" as robert johnson. he had an album out back in 1990 called "cry of the prophets" but it was a bit 2 raw for the digital age back then.
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sinisterpentatonic said:

Unfortunately I don't.

He's just another Blues man, that you can probably find in many cities, that very few people will ever know about.


This is the only thing I located about him...

http://www.barrelhousechu...01977.html

...doing a quick internet search.


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theAudience said:[quote]
These fashions were straight out of the Eleganza Catalogue (Let's see how many Old-Schoolers remember that fashion nightmare ).


No you didn't!! That Eleganza catalogue was hilarious!! We used to see guys in those outfits and called them that, "Eleganza!" Nothing like it!!
As for blues....I'm a big fan. Two of my real faves are Albert King and Buddy Guy. It's a shame the blues isn't more popular and better understood. I guess I'm missing something because hip hop (although I like some of it) doesn't represent the new blues to me. Blues is what it is.

I'm from the south... and (I listen to blues, and im white)


but I would say a lot of black people (from older generations) listen to it around here..
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DaX said:

yes! i know of an asian who loves Blues, some guitar fanatic.

That's weird. The love for the blues is universal. In fact, last week, I *just* found out about the passing of Percy Strother. I'd felt he'd probably passed on, did some research and got confirmation. Percy, in addition to being a great performer, was nice enough to let me sit in with his band for a couple of songs, when I moved to Nashville. Didn't know me from Adam, his brother said Percy didn't usually do that, but he let me jam with his band and take solos and act like I was opening for him. God bless his family.

Yeah, we still listen to the blues.

Well, I listen to the blues all the time. But I'm white. Well, half-white anyway.

I don't understand the point of this thread.

Last evening there was an absoultely awsome show on tv....

"Lightening in a bottle"

Showcased a whole host of Blues Singers....

I just knew I should wrote down everyone I saw in this flick

If ya get a chance...check it out....

The Blues....

Come to Mississippi and that's all you'll hear. It has totally dominated the music scene for black people over 35 down here since the early 1990s. I don't care for the recent blues at all because it all sounds alike. The majority of it is made from Malaco Records with a lot of the same producers.

I've asked many people my age why they listen to it and all of them have said the same thing...."Hell, there ain't nothing else out there except for damn hip hop". I can certainly understand that. Fortunately, I have an advantage over them. I have all my old records to fall back on.

A few white people listen to blues down here but they listen mainly to the local bands, without a record deal, that play the elite type restaurant/clubs. Some of them are really into it, but from what I've seen, a lot of them are strictly there for "a night out" and could care less what kind of music is being played.

Practically all of them. The only black people I know down here that aren't listening to blues are gay ones and they are listening to house music
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I grew up with a Dad who listened to the blues as seriously as one watches the news.

He would tell my mom it was church music (she's very religious) even though it was often about sex and steppin' out.

I dreaded those road trips to Texas where we'd listen to the blues nonstop for 15 hours. In the midst of a good nap, he'd yell out "Do you know who dat is?! Who's that?!"

Um, don't know Dad ... BBKing? "Nah, that's Bobby Blue Bland."

OK.

Later it was
"Little Milton!"
and then "My man Johnnie Taylor."

He's old school.

Of all the singers he played, the only one that truly affected me was ZZ Hill.
And in honor of this thread I'm actually listening to "Cheatin' in the Next Room" right now.

Uh oh, "Right Arm for Your Love" is coming on:



"You're so original. Don't seem true. I'm gonna write Washington and copyright you (WTF? )

You are sweet, wonderful. A goddess of happiness.

I feel so good -- and groovy --when I'm makin' love to you. You've got my heart, you've got my mind, come get the rest "

Bop do wop. Baby I'd chop. Off my right arm for your love! "



Ah.
The good old days.