minneapolisgenius said:

Michael Jackson was one of my favorite performers ever. I even had dreams about him and the way he could move. He inspired me to study dance and now, professional dancers think that I am one of them, even though I never pursued it to that level.

As good as he is within his own repertoire, Michael Jackson is not as versatile as even JANET Jackson, much less any pro dancer. A professional dancer can do everything Michael can do with his body. Michael on the other hand cannot do what they do.

He is considered great because he is better than his peers who for the most part didn't devote themselves to the craft. Pop music in the 70's and 80's brought dancing back to the mainstream, but the average hoofer in any Gene Kelly film could *smoke* almost all those in the game today.

Mike is good. VERY good. He's just not "the Greatest Dancer".


When his game is on though, he's one of the most entertaining guys around.

Let the flames begin!

GoldenGlove said:

Yep. Paris Hilton is all over television. She's even had TWO books in the stores and I didn't even know she can read. Talent and celebrity are two different things.

Madonna is a master at garnering publicity for her relatively meager talents.
Her best talent is self-promotion.

MartyMcFly said:

As Michael sang, "Yoooo are not alllownnnnne..."

MartyMcFly said:

Whatever ....

TotalAlisa said:

[flame snipped - Tom]

roundables said:

YOU SERIOUSLY NEED TO GROW UP AND STOP THE NAME CALLING ITS SO ELEMETRY SCHOOL... FYI... TO CORRECT YOU... I AM DEFINITLY NOT A MADONNA FAN... I DONT OWN ANY OF MADOONNAS ALBUMS I DONT EVEN KNOW MADONNAS REAL NAME OR HER BIRTHDAY... OR EVEN ALL THE NAMES OF HER SONGS....
[Edited 11/10/05 13:44pm]

MartyMcFly said:

I love this. It's from the BMW commercial with Clive Owen, right? This is at the very end when she gets thrown out of the back seat for being such a DIVA bitch!!! Loved it. She can make fun of herself.


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minneapolisgenius said:

hey minni, u know i got loadsa respect for u as a dancer etc,, but u gotta give him alot of credit for being so good at dancing when he never studied it. Thats why his moves (his "5" moves ) were unique looking. U cant get that from training all ur life. I hope ur not offended, and iam sure u are an amazing techincal dancer, but mike, like james brown, and yes even mr mc hammer had a energy that cannot be trained with a teacher telling u how to move all day.

Only a few can be that naturally gifted. Mike was one of them.

Alasseon said:

that argument might have carried some weight if she'd come and gone in 5 or 10 years. it's been over 20 years now. the "no-talent" thing is tired and cliched. i wish some hipster would think up some new reason to sell Madonna short than "master of self-promotion" in order to undervalue her talent, so the rest of the pack would have some other lazy criticism to run into the ground.

Tessa said:

she's an old boring mother of two that's the new one. it doesn't seem to work either but at least it's something that was't run into the ground 15 years ago.

100MPH said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Nonono... I mean someone SHOULD poop on her old haggard face!

Alasseon said:

Cloudbuster said:

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Christopher said:

Cloudbuster said:

MartyMcFly said:

Such bitterness, i feel sorry for you.

Christopher said:

CrozzaUK said:

there is one Mj figure I´ve never seen doing anyone else - THE SPIN.
Well, of course there are great dancers , but watching MJ´s videos like Smooth Criminal or Dnagerous performance from MTV music awards in 1995, it´s not that others are not able to do what he does. They apparently can. But they can´t do it with MJ´s elegance, naturality, preciseness and easyness.

I've just seen the video for the new single "Hung Up" and yet again it's clear she's just copied other things she's seen that she knows are popular. A large part of it is just a blatant copy of the "Call On Me" video!! The words "bandwagon", "jump" and "on" spring to mind. In my opinion she stopped being "original" long ago.

dolphin1974 said:

actully she cops to stealing from Saturday Night Fever.

madonna has never been original, which i dont really care about and it doesnt make me love her any less, but she hasnt. most of the things she does are rip offs of other things, like most of her filmclips and more recently her songs. i know its impossible to be 100% original, and im not expecting anyone to be, but madonna has always been hyped as original and groundbreaking which shes never really been.

She has a fine touch tho for discovering acts/artists which yet haven't been noticed by other Record executives . Like the Dj who has just worked on her newest single and other songs from the new album .

Great other act which she signed for her Marverick label was female-artist Meshell Ndegeochello with her rhyming bass-booming funkstyle .

madonna is FAR from original!!

She is just a middle aged, bingo winged, idea stealing, fame craving, attention seking, balanced diet needing, silly old slapper!!

AAAAAMEN!!

phew...

GoldenGlove said:

hellomoto said:

I, frankly, LOVE American Life. It's not my fave of hers but it is very near the top. There's not a song on there I really dislike, I think it's a pretty solid set.

I know it wasn't well received in the US but how did it do elsewhere?

jtfolden said:

3 million world wide and a fantastic supporting tour